Woman and man gunned down in gun controlled Britain.....

[2aguy]

Likely the guy was targeted and the woman was caught in the crossfire.....hmmmmm.....but.....they have gun control in Britain...don't they?

Woman, 46, in critical condition after shooting in north London | Metro News

Police say a woman is fighting for her life in hospital and another man was injured in a double shooting in north London on Tuesday night. The victim, 46, is in a critical condition after she was shot in front of a row of shops in Lordship Lane, Wood Green, at around 9.50pm. She was rushed to hospital after she was gunned down outside a hair salon and barbers. The Met Police said the male victim was also treated after he received a ‘minor gunshot injury’.

 

[cnm]

In the USA, where access to handguns is easy, 9 have been killed and 14 injured in the last 72 hours. To match that rate the UK would require nearly 2 killed and 3 injured.

It's letting the side down with such low rates of gun violence, only 2 injured!

Of course one knows a longer time frame would show the UK to be even more slack than that when it comes to creating victims of gun violence. It needs laxer gun laws if it's to have a chance of catching up with its trans Atlantic soul mate.

 

[2aguy]

In the USA, where access to handguns is easy, 9 have been killed and 14 injured in the last 72 hours. To match that rate the UK would require nearly 2 killed and 3 injured.

It's letting the side down with such low rates of gun violence, only 2 injured!

Of course one knows a longer time frame would show the UK to be even more slack than that when it comes to creating victims of gun violence. It needs laxer gun laws if it's to have a chance of catching up with its trans Atlantic soul mate.

And yet, you foolishly assume that it is gun control that stops gun murder in Britain......when the fact is that Britain always used to have low gun murder rates long before they banned guns, and after banning guns they had an increase in gun murder...which eventually returned to the exact same level as before....showing their gun control had no effect on gun murder......British criminals simply do not commit murder ...... yet. That has changed.

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

 

[BULLDOG]

In the USA, where access to handguns is easy, 9 have been killed and 14 injured in the last 72 hours. To match that rate the UK would require nearly 2 killed and 3 injured.

It's letting the side down with such low rates of gun violence, only 2 injured!

Of course one knows a longer time frame would show the UK to be even more slack than that when it comes to creating victims of gun violence. It needs laxer gun laws if it's to have a chance of catching up with its trans Atlantic soul mate.

When it comes to having crazies who think the extremely low gun crime rate in England is a bad thing. WE'RE NUMBER 1 !!!!!!

 

[cnm]

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

No one can stop illegal guns, just as no one can stop firearm homicides. One can restrict the number in circulation of the one and the rate of the other. This is reflected in the overall firearm homicide rate of a nation. What was that of the US again? Oops. What a pity.

 

[cnm]

When it comes to having crazies who think the extremely low gun crime rate in England is a bad thing. WE'RE NUMBER 1 !!!!!!

Best raving loonies evah!

 

[candycorn]

That one can itemize gun crimes in a nation proves they are doing it right

 

[2aguy]

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

No one can stop illegal guns, just as no one can stop firearm homicides. One can restrict the number in circulation of the one and the rate of the other. This is reflected in the overall firearm homicide rate of a nation. What was that of the US again? Oops. What a pity.

No, actually, it isn't.....criminals drive the gun murder rate, not normal gun owners....so banning guns for normal gun owners does not effect the gun crime or gun murder rate.

It is the culture of the criminal underworld that drives the gun murder rate.....our democrat controlled voting districts are filled with fatherless homes....and hence the increased gun murder. Britain has just now reached that point, where fatherless homes are increasing violence in their society.....and they also have increased illegal gun numbers in their country...to think this is nothing for them to worry about is just stupid.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Wow....the UK is working hard on becoming the Gun Murder capital of the world !
Yikes!

Don't they have like nearly Communist style Gun control there ???

 

[2aguy]

That one can itemize gun crimes in a nation proves they are doing it right

They had low gun murder before they banned guns.....here, let Thomas Sowell explain it...

The Gun Control Farce, by Dr. Thomas Sowell



Professor Malcolm's book also illustrates the difference between isolated, cherry-picked facts and relevant empirical evidence.

Many gun control advocates have cited the much higher murder rates in the United States than in England as due to tighter gun control laws in England. But Professor Malcolm's study points out that the murder rate in New York has been some multiple of the murder rate in London for two centuries — and, during most of that time, neither city had serious restrictions on gun ownership.

As late as 1954, "there were no controls on shotguns" in England, Professor Malcolm reported, but only 12 cases of armed robbery in London. Of these only 4 had real guns. But in the remainder of the 20th century, gun control laws became ever more severe — and armed robberies in London soared to 1,400 by 1974.

"As the numbers of legal firearms have dwindled, the numbers of armed crimes have risen" is her summary of that history in England. Conversely, in the United States the number of handguns in American homes more than doubled between 1973 and 1992, while the murder rate went down.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

In the USA, where access to handguns is easy, 9 have been killed and 14 injured in the last 72 hours. To match that rate the UK would require nearly 2 killed and 3 injured.

It's letting the side down with such low rates of gun violence, only 2 injured!

Of course one knows a longer time frame would show the UK to be even more slack than that when it comes to creating victims of gun violence. It needs laxer gun laws if it's to have a chance of catching up with its trans Atlantic soul mate.

Wait a minute....those were all in Chicago....you know black on black.....so technically those are not worthy of being counted.
Black lives DON'T matter.......other wise CNN and MSNBC etc would run stories on it but they won't. Hmmmmmm.

 

[2aguy]

In the USA, where access to handguns is easy, 9 have been killed and 14 injured in the last 72 hours. To match that rate the UK would require nearly 2 killed and 3 injured.

It's letting the side down with such low rates of gun violence, only 2 injured!

Of course one knows a longer time frame would show the UK to be even more slack than that when it comes to creating victims of gun violence. It needs laxer gun laws if it's to have a chance of catching up with its trans Atlantic soul mate.

Wait a minute....those were all in Chicago....you know black on black.....so technically those are not worthy of being counted.
Black lives DON'T matter.......other wise CNN and MSNBC etc would run stories on it but they won't. Hmmmmmm.

Yes.....Black lives only matter to democrats one day every two years.....when they need Black votes for power......

 

[BULLDOG]

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

No one can stop illegal guns, just as no one can stop firearm homicides. One can restrict the number in circulation of the one and the rate of the other. This is reflected in the overall firearm homicide rate of a nation. What was that of the US again? Oops. What a pity.

No, actually, it isn't.....criminals drive the gun murder rate, not normal gun owners....so banning guns for normal gun owners does not effect the gun crime or gun murder rate.

It is the culture of the criminal underworld that drives the gun murder rate.....our democrat controlled voting districts are filled with fatherless homes....and hence the increased gun murder. Britain has just now reached that point, where fatherless homes are increasing violence in their society.....and they also have increased illegal gun numbers in their country...to think this is nothing for them to worry about is just stupid.

Yes, and everybody is a good guy with a gun right up until they shoot up a school.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

No one can stop illegal guns, just as no one can stop firearm homicides. One can restrict the number in circulation of the one and the rate of the other. This is reflected in the overall firearm homicide rate of a nation. What was that of the US again? Oops. What a pity.

No, actually, it isn't.....criminals drive the gun murder rate, not normal gun owners....so banning guns for normal gun owners does not effect the gun crime or gun murder rate.

It is the culture of the criminal underworld that drives the gun murder rate.....our democrat controlled voting districts are filled with fatherless homes....and hence the increased gun murder. Britain has just now reached that point, where fatherless homes are increasing violence in their society.....and they also have increased illegal gun numbers in their country...to think this is nothing for them to worry about is just stupid.

I am keen to learn how the US is able to ensure that only, ahem, normal gun owners are allowed to carry guns. That must be a powerful tool.

 

[BULLDOG]

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

No one can stop illegal guns, just as no one can stop firearm homicides. One can restrict the number in circulation of the one and the rate of the other. This is reflected in the overall firearm homicide rate of a nation. What was that of the US again? Oops. What a pity.

No, actually, it isn't.....criminals drive the gun murder rate, not normal gun owners....so banning guns for normal gun owners does not effect the gun crime or gun murder rate.

It is the culture of the criminal underworld that drives the gun murder rate.....our democrat controlled voting districts are filled with fatherless homes....and hence the increased gun murder. Britain has just now reached that point, where fatherless homes are increasing violence in their society.....and they also have increased illegal gun numbers in their country...to think this is nothing for them to worry about is just stupid.

I am keen to learn how the US is able to ensure that only, ahem, normal gun owners are allowed to carry guns. That must be a powerful tool.

They are all Good Guys with a Gun, and Normal gun owners right up until they commit a gun crime. Perfectly safe to be armed until they aren't.

 

[2aguy]

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

No one can stop illegal guns, just as no one can stop firearm homicides. One can restrict the number in circulation of the one and the rate of the other. This is reflected in the overall firearm homicide rate of a nation. What was that of the US again? Oops. What a pity.

No, actually, it isn't.....criminals drive the gun murder rate, not normal gun owners....so banning guns for normal gun owners does not effect the gun crime or gun murder rate.

It is the culture of the criminal underworld that drives the gun murder rate.....our democrat controlled voting districts are filled with fatherless homes....and hence the increased gun murder. Britain has just now reached that point, where fatherless homes are increasing violence in their society.....and they also have increased illegal gun numbers in their country...to think this is nothing for them to worry about is just stupid.

I am keen to learn how the US is able to ensure that only, ahem, normal gun owners are allowed to carry guns. That must be a powerful tool.

Moron......as you asshats point out, we have laws that state that felons cannot buy, own or carry guns...when they are caught, they are arrested and put in prison.....then a democrat judge lets them out...so they can kill.

 

[2aguy]

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

No one can stop illegal guns, just as no one can stop firearm homicides. One can restrict the number in circulation of the one and the rate of the other. This is reflected in the overall firearm homicide rate of a nation. What was that of the US again? Oops. What a pity.

No, actually, it isn't.....criminals drive the gun murder rate, not normal gun owners....so banning guns for normal gun owners does not effect the gun crime or gun murder rate.

It is the culture of the criminal underworld that drives the gun murder rate.....our democrat controlled voting districts are filled with fatherless homes....and hence the increased gun murder. Britain has just now reached that point, where fatherless homes are increasing violence in their society.....and they also have increased illegal gun numbers in their country...to think this is nothing for them to worry about is just stupid.

I am keen to learn how the US is able to ensure that only, ahem, normal gun owners are allowed to carry guns. That must be a powerful tool.

They are all Good Guys with a Gun, and Normal gun owners right up until they commit a gun crime. Perfectly safe to be armed until they aren't.

No, moron...and you have been shown this over and over again...those who commit murder are not "normal" people who have a bad day and then kill someone with their gun....you twit....



The Criminology of Firearms


In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and some empirical research of its own about guns. The Academy could not identify any gun restriction that had reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents.

Why don't gun bans work? Because they rely on voluntary compliance by gun-using criminals. Prohibitionists never see this absurdity because they deceive themselves into thinking that, as Katherine Christoffel has said: "[M]ost shootings are not committed by felons or mentally ill people, but are acts of passion that are committed using a handgun that is owned for home protection."

Christoffel, et al., are utterly wrong. The whole corpus of criminological research dating back to the 1890'sshows murderers "almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behavior," and that "[v]irtually all" murderers and other gun criminals have prior felony records — generally long ones.

While only 15 percent of Americans have criminal records, roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have prior adult records — exclusive of their often extensive juvenile records — with crime careers of six or more adult years including four major felonies. Gerald D. Robin, writing for the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences,notes that, unlike ordinary gun owners, "the average murderer turns out to be no less hardened a criminal than the average robber or burglar."

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

In the USA, where access to handguns is easy, 9 have been killed and 14 injured in the last 72 hours. To match that rate the UK would require nearly 2 killed and 3 injured.

It's letting the side down with such low rates of gun violence, only 2 injured!

Of course one knows a longer time frame would show the UK to be even more slack than that when it comes to creating victims of gun violence. It needs laxer gun laws if it's to have a chance of catching up with its trans Atlantic soul mate.

Guns don't kill...******* do.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

No one can stop illegal guns, just as no one can stop firearm homicides. One can restrict the number in circulation of the one and the rate of the other. This is reflected in the overall firearm homicide rate of a nation. What was that of the US again? Oops. What a pity.

No, actually, it isn't.....criminals drive the gun murder rate, not normal gun owners....so banning guns for normal gun owners does not effect the gun crime or gun murder rate.

It is the culture of the criminal underworld that drives the gun murder rate.....our democrat controlled voting districts are filled with fatherless homes....and hence the increased gun murder. Britain has just now reached that point, where fatherless homes are increasing violence in their society.....and they also have increased illegal gun numbers in their country...to think this is nothing for them to worry about is just stupid.

I am keen to learn how the US is able to ensure that only, ahem, normal gun owners are allowed to carry guns. That must be a powerful tool.

Almost as powerful as that giant vibrating fist you limies allow your gov to shove up your ass on a daily.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Meanwhile....British police have stated to the press they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain....the British police are stating they can't stop illegal guns...which again, shows gun control doesn't work in Britain...

No one can stop illegal guns, just as no one can stop firearm homicides. One can restrict the number in circulation of the one and the rate of the other. This is reflected in the overall firearm homicide rate of a nation. What was that of the US again? Oops. What a pity.

No, actually, it isn't.....criminals drive the gun murder rate, not normal gun owners....so banning guns for normal gun owners does not effect the gun crime or gun murder rate.

It is the culture of the criminal underworld that drives the gun murder rate.....our democrat controlled voting districts are filled with fatherless homes....and hence the increased gun murder. Britain has just now reached that point, where fatherless homes are increasing violence in their society.....and they also have increased illegal gun numbers in their country...to think this is nothing for them to worry about is just stupid.

I am keen to learn how the US is able to ensure that only, ahem, normal gun owners are allowed to carry guns. That must be a powerful tool.

They are all Good Guys with a Gun, and Normal gun owners right up until they commit a gun crime. Perfectly safe to be armed until they aren't.

Many thanks. I think that I might have spotted a problem with that.