Will you partcipate in an armed rebellion against the federal government?

[MaggieMae]

That is the biggest piece of propagandized horseshit I've ever seen. Please cite the Article so violated in the Constitution.

And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, secede!!!!!!!!!

Why should I cite the article so violated? I didn't write the phrase. I didn't say you did. I only reported that I've seen it and it is being circulated. Surprise surprise... I thought I left open the very real possibility that valid support for it might not be established.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem or is it a rare thing to misunderstand a post as badly as you seem to have misunderstood mine?

But can you answer the question: If one or more states should decide to secede, how do you think the current Congress and Administration would respond to that?

Probably (hopefully) with a resounding "good luck with that..."

 

[eots]

There are some on the board who are talking about an armed rebellion or civil war sometime down the road. That got me thinking, are you planning to participate in an armed insurrection against the federal government?

Frankly, I find this fascinating.

That would depend on the circumstances.

I'm willing to bet I could discover a set of circumstances that would drive you or anyone else to armed revolt.

Remember...armed revolt is how our country was started, so attempting to cast is as somehow morally inappropriate is a bit foolish.

Not saying that's what you're doing here, but still...I think it's funny how liberals only start to care about their country when they fear losing the ability to run it.

Using guns and revolutions to accomplish what a political faction decides is best for the country literally went out with cannon balls and high button shoes. You may want to go the way of banana republics to overturn your adversaries, but thinking Americans prefer to move forward, not backward.

5 words for you..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0B_UZNtEk4]YouTube - From my cold dead hands[/ame]

 

[MaggieMae]

Memo to the Right Wing: Put Up or Shut Up | OurFuture.org

 

[Aristophanes]

Using guns and revolutions to accomplish what a political faction decides is best for the country literally went out with cannon balls and high button shoes.

Says who?

You may want to go the way of banana republics to overturn your adversaries, but thinking Americans prefer to move forward, not backward.

Nice platitude, but utterly meaningless.

Creating an ever-growing class of people dependent on the government is the very definition of moving backward, and we have been moving backward at an alarming rate since January of this year.

 

[MaggieMae]

That would depend on the circumstances.

I'm willing to bet I could discover a set of circumstances that would drive you or anyone else to armed revolt.

Remember...armed revolt is how our country was started, so attempting to cast is as somehow morally inappropriate is a bit foolish.

Not saying that's what you're doing here, but still...I think it's funny how liberals only start to care about their country when they fear losing the ability to run it.

Using guns and revolutions to accomplish what a political faction decides is best for the country literally went out with cannon balls and high button shoes. You may want to go the way of banana republics to overturn your adversaries, but thinking Americans prefer to move forward, not backward.

5 words for you..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0B_UZNtEk4]YouTube - From my cold dead hands[/ame]

No surprises there. If you can't shoot something today, go set fire to a squirrel or something. You faux "soldiers" put a whole new meaning to The Ugly American.

 

[MaggieMae]

Using guns and revolutions to accomplish what a political faction decides is best for the country literally went out with cannon balls and high button shoes.

Says who?

You may want to go the way of banana republics to overturn your adversaries, but thinking Americans prefer to move forward, not backward.

Nice platitude, but utterly meaningless.
Maybe you'd understand the platitude better if I simply said that Neanderthals died out when the more intelligent Cro-Magnon outsmarted them with unique hunting techniques.

Creating an ever-growing class of people dependent on the government is the very definition of moving backward, and we have been moving backward at an alarming rate since January of this year.

How so? Because more are unemployed and relying on government subsistence programs? Why is there such massive unemployment? You might try being more specific, since it's literally impossible for an economy the size of ours to simply crash and burn in a mere six months.

 

[Derek_Plumber]

No, but I might enjoy putting away a few members of the American Aristocracy;

AKA fat-cat Republicans.

Good things come in time.

Dreams can come true.

What about Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and George Soros?

Is it ok to be a fat cat as long as you a leftie fat cat?

Correct. Leftie fat-cats are ok!
Gates is no liberal. I'd like to lecture the bastard on the meaning of customer service in business. I'd use a whip!

 

[Agnapostate]

Perhaps, depending on the consequences, most obviously the nature of political organization that would be established were the federal government to collapse. Since so much current anti-government sentiment comes from rightist propertarians with an interest in setting up even more authoritarian institutions than exist in present conditions, I'd be wary.

 

[William Joyce]

Funny how libs are all, "oh no, our country is wonderful, let's keep it, anyone who would take up arms is a nasty" and the cons are all, "dude, let it rip."

Anyway, the United States of America as a NATION died a long time ago. All that's left is a GOVERNMENT. It has outlived its usefulness in securing peace, prosperity and freedom for its citizens and inhabitants. It needs to die. Nobody takes "the USA" seriously anymore (and if they do, there is no reason to take THEM seriously.)

There could be violence, I don't know. Probably it will just peter out elsewhere. Secession, lack of enforcement, etc.

Question is what comes next. Idea: areas that are more racially, ethnically, linguistically and culturally uniform.

 

[xotoxi]

 

[Derek_Plumber]

Funny how libs are all, "oh no, our country is wonderful, let's keep it, anyone who would take up arms is a nasty" and the cons are all, "dude, let it rip."

Anyway, the United States of America as a NATION died a long time ago. All that's left is a GOVERNMENT. It has outlived its usefulness in securing peace, prosperity and freedom for its citizens and inhabitants. It needs to die. Nobody takes "the USA" seriously anymore (and if they do, there is no reason to take THEM seriously.)

There could be violence, I don't know. Probably it will just peter out elsewhere. Secession, lack of enforcement, etc.

Question is what comes next. Idea: areas that are more racially, ethnically, linguistically and culturally uniform.

I am here, and I am listening. I think you are right about violence, and America's death.
I think what is next will be much better than before. I feel positive about President Obama.

 

[Old Rocks]

The nut cases who advocate armed rebellion are too scared to ever do it.

There are bigger nut cases who reads the big chickens advocating aremed rebellion.They are more likely to do it.

You call our past President THOMAS JEFFERSON a "nut case?"


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson

Our tree of liberty has been liberally refreshed with the blood of patriots. From the people Ludlow to Herrin, Americans have shed their blood for causes that changed the society of the day.

And we have had nearly a revolution in every generation. The Civil Rights movement in the '60s was a revolution. The conservative swing in the 80s, another. And the revolution of technology and communications, of which one aspect is represented by this board, is every bit as paradigm changing as the first mentioned revolutions.

Now, today, we are seeing the beginning of another revolution. It involves how much society and individuals interact. Health Care, Federal Regulation of Financial Institutions are all aspects of the coming revolution. This revolution is based on the fact that the present system has failed miserably. And that the failure was aided and abetted by the Conservatives of the prior administration. And that resulted in even many conservatives voting for the present President. It is likely that we will have a successful revolution. As with the civil rights movement, it will be accomplished, not by bullets, but by ballots. As it should be in our nation.

 

[Old Rocks]

Can I take the 5th??

Sure. And I'll take one with you. Make mine Scotch.

 

[Old Rocks]

Hell no, I wouldn't take up arms in a civil war or a rebellion because I'm a liberal. We don't own guns! When the rebellion happens I'll be fleeing to Canada and claiming political asylum from the nazis, er, I mean Republicans who are wholesale slaughtering hippies, vegetarians, hipsters, artists, writers, musicians, green businesses, small business owners who practice progressive business, pacifists, feminists, homosexuals, abortion doctors, intellectuals, college professors, scientists, atheists, Muslims, immigrants, black people, comedians, journalists, minorities, deer, elk, pheasants, fish...........

It'll be like the Spanish Civil War but with a lot of Budweiser and hunting camo.

Liberals don't own guns? Lordy fellow, have you ever been to Oregon?

 

[AllieBaba]

Funny how libs are all, "oh no, our country is wonderful, let's keep it, anyone who would take up arms is a nasty" and the cons are all, "dude, let it rip."

Anyway, the United States of America as a NATION died a long time ago. All that's left is a GOVERNMENT. It has outlived its usefulness in securing peace, prosperity and freedom for its citizens and inhabitants. It needs to die. Nobody takes "the USA" seriously anymore (and if they do, there is no reason to take THEM seriously.)

There could be violence, I don't know. Probably it will just peter out elsewhere. Secession, lack of enforcement, etc.

Question is what comes next. Idea: areas that are more racially, ethnically, linguistically and culturally uniform.

I am here, and I am listening. I think you are right about violence, and America's death.
I think what is next will be much better than before. I feel positive about President Obama.

You go right ahead and keep feeling good about him, then. We'll try to protect you when the time comes.

 

[Derek_Plumber]

Our tree of liberty has been liberally refreshed with the blood of patriots. From the people Ludlow to Herrin, Americans have shed their blood for causes that changed the society of the day.

And we have had nearly a revolution in every generation. The Civil Rights movement in the '60s was a revolution. The conservative swing in the 80s, another. And the revolution of technology and communications, of which one aspect is represented by this board, is every bit as paradigm changing as the first mentioned revolutions.

Now, today, we are seeing the beginning of another revolution. It involves how much society and individuals interact. Health Care, Federal Regulation of Financial Institutions are all aspects of the coming revolution. This revolution is based on the fact that the present system has failed miserably. And that the failure was aided and abetted by the Conservatives of the prior administration. And that resulted in even many conservatives voting for the present President. It is likely that we will have a successful revolution. As with the civil rights movement, it will be accomplished, not by bullets, but by ballots. As it should be in our nation.

 

[Old Rocks]

Taking a look at the politicians who are beginning to make public their disagreements with all that Obama is doing, and seeing this question come up in so many ways, is an indication that in America we have a problem. I remember Perry's comment about Texas leaving the country behind. Just the mention of these things is clear evidence that somewhere along the way Americans have voted themselves back into a corner.

It is my hope that there will be no all out war here, but I would participate in a systematic removal of many of the politicians and other government workers who are currently in high places. We do need to make some drastic changes.

As I see it, the best hope is that someone will come along who understands how to lead the country, through the media, in the future elections, toward a clear cleansing of the nations of the crap that is in Washington DC now. I wish I were smart enough to lead it. Our votes are worthless unless we have someone worth voting for. Farmers, volunteer community leaders, organizations with high ethical and moral histories, and others who have the educational understanding needed, need to step up to the plate and lead in a plan to organize and take those offices over in our government.

There does need to be a cleansing. Government is corrupt, and most politicians need to be removed.

I don't think I would be involved in all out war, but in organized cleansing, I would jump right in.

Just one man's opinion.

Once again, the very fact that these kinds of comments are being made publicly in so many places not means we need to do something, or we will lose this great nation forever.

A good start, then, would be for "conservatives" to stop ripping the Republican Party apart by their wild-eyed isolationism from the basic tenets of the Grand OLd Party. While you may not agree with nor like everything the GOP currently stands for, there is strength in numbers. As long as you continue to act like bratty children (JUST SAY NO), and are unwilling to compromise, even a little, you will continue to lose regardless how much "cleansing" is done of the current batch serving in Washington.

A better start would be for extremist partisan hacks like you to stop babbling like a toddler. Your posts evidence that you are everything you accuse Republicans of being.

Questioning your own party and it's goals is called being honest. Something you lemming-o-crats wouldn't know a damned thing about.

Really Gunny? And you supported the total failures of the past administration? Two failed wars, a failed response to a huge domestic disaster, and creating an economic debacle? Yes, many of us question President Obama's methods. And would prefer that he be more definate about the goals. However, from the Conservatives, all we have gotten is nonsense. Kind of like the statements concerning the fundemental strength of the economy the Sunday before Meltdown Monday.

 

[Dr Grump]

Question is what comes next. Idea: areas that are more racially, ethnically, linguistically and culturally uniform.

I can definitely see in the next 100 years some of those south-western states becoming part of a larger Mexico.

 

[AllieBaba]

Liberals view defeat as success, and success as defeat.

There's really no point in going over the same old territory with the dunderheads.

 

[Dr Grump]

You go right ahead and keep feeling good about him, then. We'll try to protect you when the time comes.

What'll they need protecting from? Prothelysing Christian whackjobs are about the only threat to normal US citizens these days...