Will the universe ever be devoid of energy?

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We apparently know that our sun will eventually consume all of its energy. Will not this also happen to all energy sources in our universe?
 
No.

Please take a real course in physics. The Big Bang Theory is not adequate education.
 
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No.

Please take a real course in physics. The Big Bang Theory is not adequate education.

So the universe doesn't have a finite amount of energy, but an infinite amount. Is that what you believe?
 
Nothing it lost, it merely changes form.

There is energy in solid matter. Remember the model of the atom when you were in school? Those little balls marked with an 'E' that were moving around the nucleus? Viola! Energy.
 
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Nothing it lost, it merely changes form.

There is energy in solid matter. Remember the model of the atom when you were in school? Those little balls marked with an 'E' that were moving around the nucleus? Viola! Energy.

Ok, so when coal is burned, the energy of the coal is transformed into the energy of heat, correct? What does the energy from the heat transform into?
 
Nothing it lost, it merely changes form.

There is energy in solid matter. Remember the model of the atom when you were in school? Those little balls marked with an 'E' that were moving around the nucleus? Viola! Energy.

Ok, so when coal is burned, the energy of the coal is transformed into the energy of heat, correct? What does the energy from the heat transform into?

According to the Law of Thermodynamics, the heat spreads out. It warms everything connected to it, even if we cannot measure the tiny amount.
 
We apparently know that our sun will eventually consume all of its energy. Will not this also happen to all energy sources in our universe?
The proven First Law of Thermodynamics says that energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
 
K9, you keep bringing up these subjects, yet you seem never to have done the least research concerning them. You have the greatest instrument of research and education yet invented by man sitting right in front of you. Why not use it, and quit presenting yourself as such a dumb fuck.
 
RE: Will the universe ever be devoid of energy?
※→ K9Buck, BlindBoo, WinterBorn, edthecynic, et al,

Most of these are all extremely good questions - that we cannot fully answer; insufficient knowledge or data.

We apparently know that our sun will eventually consume all of its energy. Will not this also happen to all energy sources in our universe?
No. The big bang is still exploding. ???
So the universe doesn't have a finite amount of energy, but an infinite amount. Is that what you believe?
Nothing it lost, it merely changes form.

There is energy in solid matter. Remember the model of the atom when you were in school? Those little balls marked with an 'E' that were moving around the nucleus? Viola! Energy.

Ok, so when coal is burned, the energy of the coal is transformed into the energy of heat, correct? What does the energy from the heat transform into?
We apparently know that our sun will eventually consume all of its energy. Will not this also happen to all energy sources in our universe?
The proven First Law of Thermodynamics says that energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
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The conventional wisdom, as cited by our friends ("Winterborn" and "edthecynic") are essentially correct (creation/destruction/dissipation). But there are many things we still do not know yet. But when our friend "K9Buck" says: "Nothing it lost, it merely changes form" → what does "lost" actually mean. Some times it means the parts-per notation (millions, billions, trillions) to describe small values of miscellaneous dimensionless quantities; generally the value point at which that under test can be detected or exploited.

As our friend ("BlindBoo") has suggested, the "Big Bang" might be still exploding (releasing or ejecting energy - we don't even know that). We don't know that, but as a hypothesis goes, it seems good (appearance of being sound and valid). If it is true, it "might" account for the constant generation of the Fabric of Space-Time which, in turn, pushes the expansion of the universe further out. But when we say out, that is an undefined term; where is out. What we can see "here and now" is determined by our "Past Light Cone;" meaning events which we have been able to see. The Particle Event Horizon is something different. That is the distance to the furthest object (event) that we can see. (See Cosmology: the physical edges of the Universe - Edges of Astronomy 2014 - Australian Academy of Science -[URL='https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Australian Academy of Science&qft=+Filterui:userpage-scienceacademyau&FORM=VQCHNL'] the best presentation I have ever seen - one which even I can understand; and I'm dumber than dirt.)[/URL]

Having said that, we don't know the location of the point of origin of energy (or the original source of energy). Nor do we know what the shape of the universe might be. And we do not know how many dimensions there are in the universe; and whether these dimension segregate levels and forms of energy (can an energy field from one set of dimensions effect the energy field in an adjacent set of dimensions). Nor do we understand the relationship between energy and information (spooky action at a distance → Einstein stuff).

The sciences are a logical sets of successive approximations; getting us ever closer to an ultimate answer.

Just one man's opinion.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
We apparently know that our sun will eventually consume all of its energy. Will not this also happen to all energy sources in our universe?
The net energy of the universe may be zero. If the "Big rip" occurs, the energy contained in any selected portion of the universe will trend to zero, as the temperature trends to absolute zero.
 
Nothing it lost, it merely changes form.

There is energy in solid matter. Remember the model of the atom when you were in school? Those little balls marked with an 'E' that were moving around the nucleus? Viola! Energy.
It changes to an unusable form. All matter in the universe will eventually decay, but it will take trillions of years.
 

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