Will Pence run for President? And if so, why?

[Anomalism]

He will be spending time in prison unless he is above the law.

Trump will never go to prison. I promise he will die a rich and comfortable man.

 

[Mac1958]

Um, no.

Pence appears to set up a presidential run â can he win over Trumpâs base?

The former vice-president seems to be playing a long game for the 2024 election, possibly betting Trump’s influence over the Republican party will wane

www.theguardian.com

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

You can never tell with politicians, of course, but Pence is beginning to look like he's thinking about it:

Pence fuels speculation of 2024 presidential bid

Former Vice President Mike Pence’s visit to New Hampshire last week and stops in other high-profile early primary states are fueling speculation about a potential 2024 presidential run — and q…

thehill.com

I can think of only three reasons he may do this:

He's completely delusional
The egos and self-importance of politicians, especially on the national level, is such that they can talk themselves into anything. Plus, they are all pushed and enabled by hangers-on who have their own professional agendas by being part of it. But in reality, this party belongs to one guy, lock, stock and barrel, and it ain't Pence. And, TWO THIRDS OF THE PARTY THINKS HE DROPPED THE BALL on January 6, because THEY are delusional.

He thinks Trump may not run
The only argument for Trump not running is that he doesn't want to take the chance of losing again. But personally, I'm not buying that. He already has a built-in excuse -- the election was rigged -- that two thirds of the party believes down to their bones. So in that way, he literally has nothing to lose. At worst, he'll be the great victimized President. But still, Pence is delusional to think he could beat someone like DeSantis or another Trumpster.

He feels duty-bound
This one seems interesting, if not very likely. I wonder what it would mean if he ran even if Trump runs. I suppose there's a slight possibility that he learned what a menace that Trump and Trumpism are to this country and would be willing to spill the beans on everything he knows. Which would be about two tons. No doubt he could potentially sink Trump, far more effectively than anyone else, if he decided he had to for the sake of the country.

Thoughts? Ideas?

No, he will not run for president...

But he will grift for president tho....

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Trump will never go to prison. I promise he will die a rich and comfortable man.

People who believe Trump will go to prison also believe there is a tooth fairy too....it's sad

Or maybe they are like the "Lock Her Up" crowd...they know it will never happen but it makes them feel better to pretend

 

[Natural Citizen]

Establishment wingers had better pray to their lucky stars that Rand and Gabbard don't team up and make a run.

Because if that happens both sides of the party-of-one are screwed. It could very well come down to playing a waiting game with Trump to see what he's gonna do. Serious people aren't particularly interested in joining in on a circus, to be honest.

So far it's only been explored on the down low. But make no mistake. It has been explored. Is it still being expored? Hey, my name's muffin, I dunno nuffin...

 

[Natural Citizen]

I imagine the Bush era neo-cons will start pushing Haley again at some point. Now there's a disaster just waiting to happen.

 

[JoeMoma]

Why do any politician run for president (when winning is very unlikely)?

1. They are using other people's money for the campaign.
2. Even if they don't win, it increases their name recognition which translates to more access to other people's money.
3. It increases their value when being paid for speeches and book deals.
4. Narcissism.
5. Many of the candidates are simply attention whores.

All are welcome to add to the list.

 

[Esdraelon]

Yes, a huge majority of Republicans DO believe that election was stolen. Here's the thing. It really doesn't matter who refuses to believe it. It doesn't matter if they think these tens of millions of people are delusional, stupid, (insert descriptor here), these millions of voters BELIEVE IT HAPPENED. They are going to approach the next election with this in mind and nothing anyone on the Left can say is going to change their minds.

The only possible way to have avoided this was to have an open process that was trusted by all, like we've had in the past. You folks refuse to acknowledge the many changes in procedure that were rushed through, by judges, election officials and the like, NOT legally according to the constitution. There were multiple irregularities that are still being investigated and the fact that your party is fighting those tooth and nail isn't a very good look.

People with nothing to hide don't behave as your party behaved. Demanding to be able to do it again, only creates more distrust. This isn't just another red/blue ball game. THIS is the most important threat to our country in modern times and if it isn't handled in a way that brings TRUST back into the process, this nation is going to fall into increasing lawlessness and an END of respect for the authority of laws coming out of DC. Put simply... there aren't enough prisons to hold everyone that will rebel and this nation will either fall apart or go to war with itself. Those who think otherwise are going to be disabused of that notion, soon.

Pence was asked to refuse to accept the results until a proper investigation was completed. Had he done that and an investigation been allowed, we wouldn't be in the situation we see today. Your party got away with this once but if they try it again, it will be game over. I really don't think they love America as much as they love their personal power and IMO that makes them and those who blindly support them, evil. A tremendous amount of pain and suffering is in store for this nation because of their willful behavior.

Pence has no chance at all and the RINO establishment types are going to be putting money down a black hole trying to elect him.

 

[Votto]

He will be spending time in prison unless he is above the law.

Well if Trump and Hillary are above the law, why not Pence?

 

[Esdraelon]

I think there's a possibility that the establishment Republicans will turn on him completely if that happens. Trump winning again would be quite the spectacle. I think some powerful people will try to talk him out of it. It could also tear the GOP in half.

I think it already HAS. Despite all the nonsense we've seen and heard about Trump supporters being "cult" members, his support is less about personal devotion to the man than it is a desire to save the nation we grew up in and love. The Left, by every measurable standard has torn this nation's cohesiveness to tatters and are presiding over the total fall of America. MILLIONS of us believe this and the only other option we can see is to elect the man who promised to stop that decline, then followed through on his promises to the extent he was allowed to do.

The existing Republican party before Trump was just the other half of the DC Uniparty and it's time is ending one way, or another.

 

[1srelluc]

Perhaps he likes disappointment.

 

[Care4all]

You can never tell with politicians, of course, but Pence is beginning to look like he's thinking about it:

Pence fuels speculation of 2024 presidential bid

Former Vice President Mike Pence’s visit to New Hampshire last week and stops in other high-profile early primary states are fueling speculation about a potential 2024 presidential run — and q…

thehill.com

I can think of only three reasons he may do this:

He's completely delusional
The egos and self-importance of politicians, especially on the national level, is such that they can talk themselves into anything. Plus, they are all pushed and enabled by hangers-on who have their own professional agendas by being part of it. But in reality, this party belongs to one guy, lock, stock and barrel, and it ain't Pence. And, TWO THIRDS OF THE PARTY THINKS HE DROPPED THE BALL on January 6, because THEY are delusional.

He thinks Trump may not run
The only argument for Trump not running is that he doesn't want to take the chance of losing again. But personally, I'm not buying that. He already has a built-in excuse -- the election was rigged -- that two thirds of the party believes down to their bones. So in that way, he literally has nothing to lose. At worst, he'll be the great victimized President. But still, Pence is delusional to think he could beat someone like DeSantis or another Trumpster.

He feels duty-bound
This one seems interesting, if not very likely. I wonder what it would mean if he ran even if Trump runs. I suppose there's a slight possibility that he learned what a menace that Trump and Trumpism are to this country and would be willing to spill the beans on everything he knows. Which would be about two tons. No doubt he could potentially sink Trump, far more effectively than anyone else, if he decided he had to for the sake of the country.

Thoughts? Ideas?

Delusional....he just can't believe the 4 years of submission and ass kissing of Trump, could end with him as the most hated republican out there by Trump and his followers....?

 

[Esdraelon]

Well if Trump and Hillary are above the law, why not Pence?

I think she's referring to Trump. Many of these people are still hanging on to the hope that Trump will be convicted and imprisoned for some crime against someone. It's kind of pathetic, really. The only way he doesn't run is if it's his choice not to. No one on the Left can stop him and those with intelligence understand their jeopardy. It's why they're becoming increasingly shrill about him. It will only ramp up from here.

 

[Votto]

I think she's referring to Trump. Many of these people are still hanging on to the hope that Trump will be convicted and imprisoned for some crime against someone. It's kind of pathetic, really. The only way he doesn't run is if it's his choice not to. No one on the Left can stop him and those with intelligence understand their jeopardy. It's why they're becoming increasingly shrill about him. It will only ramp up from here.

I would marvel if any of the political big wigs get arrested for anything.

They are all bullet proof, yet both political parties thinks they can do it to the other.

Hilarious.

 

[Mac-7]

I imagine the Bush era neo-cons will start pushing Haley again at some point. Now there's a disaster just waiting to happen.

The Bush era neo-cons aka establishment swamp rats are the Anyone-But-Trump party

They would rather lose than win

Which come to think of it might attract Mac1958 to their cause, at least during the primary

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Establishment wingers had better pray to their lucky stars that Rand and Gabbard don't team up and make a run.

Because if that happens both sides of the party-of-one are screwed. It could very well come down to playing a waiting game with Trump to see what he's gonna do. Serious people aren't particularly interested in joining in on a circus, to be honest.

So far it's only been explored on the down low. But make no mistake. It has been explored. Is it still being expored? Hey, my name's muffin, I dunno nuffin...

Bawahahahahahahhahaa @ Gabbard


Even the people who worshiped her are starting to see they were played...she is also an establishment shill......

And Rand, right now, is pleading to Biden for a whole lot of those federal dollars to support Kentucky..

The same guy who would be calling federal dollars going to "blue states" to support those people -- Socialism

 

[Jets]

That would be a fools errand on his part. He would get castigated from all sides. If he runs it will be straight into a wall...

 

[Mac1958]

People who believe Trump will go to prison also believe there is a tooth fairy too....it's sad

Or maybe they are like the "Lock Her Up" crowd...they know it will never happen but it makes them feel better to pretend

Yeah, it's very difficult to believe that would happen.

 

[Mac1958]

That would be a fools errand on his part. He would get castigated from all sides. If he runs it will be straight into a wall...

You would think.

That's why I tossed the "He feels duty-bound" option in there. Maybe there's a 1% chance he just doesn't want to see a replay, and will do whatever it takes to stop it.

Sounds like a movie, actually, not real life.

 

[Care4all]

I think it already HAS. Despite all the nonsense we've seen and heard about Trump supporters being "cult" members, his support is less about personal devotion to the man than it is a desire to save the nation we grew up in and love. The Left, by every measurable standard has torn this nation's cohesiveness to tatters and are presiding over the total fall of America. MILLIONS of us believe this and the only other option we can see is to elect the man who promised to stop that decline, then followed through on his promises to the extent he was allowed to do.

The existing Republican party before Trump was just the other half of the DC Uniparty and it's time is ending one way, or another.

NOTE! MY y'all and youS used is not directed at you, but a y'all in the general sense....

Just the opposite. The left believes the Trumpers hate our country and all that we've stood for and were proud of....as a Nation....Our democracy. And are willing to believe the stolen election Big lies of Trump, to install the unelected authoritarian dictator in to power, outside of the constitution....a coup.


We will end up in civil war if y'all continue your path of trying to destroy our nation..... I never believed this would happen when all the Trumpers were saying a couple of years ago that a civil war was coming... I couldn't believe Trumpers could hate their fellow Americans so much!?!?

I underestimated the hatred your right wing trumper media was pounding on ....every minute of every day, non stop hatred brainwashing....

This isn't going to end well....our Nation and constitution will not make it through this is how it is looking now to me....