Will Obamas wiretapping of Trumps home bring down the democrat party?

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That is illegal


How is that illegal.

It's not.

The Treatment of Flynn’s Phone Calls Complies with FISA Minimization Procedures
By David Kris
Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 5:02 PM

It is certainly true that U.S. intelligence services can get orders from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to monitor foreign officials. The Russian ambassador, simply by virtue of his nationality and official position, is an “agent of a foreign power” under FISA and hence a valid target for wiretapping. It is publicly known and acknowledged that the U.S. government uses FISA to wiretap foreign embassies and consulates. So, the Journal may be right that Flynn was picked up on a wiretap of the Russian ambassador.


So legal so far:

But a U.S. person’s name can be used when it is necessary to understand the foreign intelligence information in the report, and no serious argument can be made that Flynn’s identity was not necessary to understand the intelligence significance of his call with Ambassador Kislyak. The call is foreign intelligence information mainly because it involves Flynn.

In a related context, here is what FISA’s legislative history says about minimization rules and substitution of generic identifiers for U.S. person names when those U.S. persons are U.S. government officials (this passage is quoted in the chapter on minimization in my book on national security investigations and prosecutions):

One example [of a situation in which a U.S. person’s name could be disseminated in an intelligence report] would be the identity of a person who is the incumbent of an office of the executive branch of the U.S. Government having significant responsibility for the conduct of U.S. defense or foreign policy, such as the Secretary of State or the State Department country desk officer. The identifiers of such persons would frequently satisfy the “necessary to understand” requirement, especially when such person is referred to in the communications of foreign officials.

Flynn was not the incumbent at the time of the call, but the logic still applies. In short, this is not a close call.


Still legal. Flynn becane a national security risk because of his high national security position and he lied in public about his conversation with a Russian official. And Russians knew it and could use it.

Had Flynn not lied, it's likely nothing would of came from the legal wiretap on Amb Kislyak
although talking about sanction as a private citizen presented some kind of legal predicament.
Of course it's not illegal. That's why Rambunctious can't cite any U.S.
law stating that it is.

It's called the 4th Amendment, moron.

What's your 4th Amendment right if you call someone whose phone is being tapped via a legal warrant.
 
No one tapped Flynn's phone
Not true, the call between General Flynn and the Russian ambassador was intercepted. Who did it and why? Why was it done without telling Clapper? Was it done without permission? Obama's administration has some questions to answer.

What is so unbelieveable that we have taps on the russians? And anybody stupid enough to call the Russian embassy is going to be recorded by the NSA. So they should be careful what they say.
What is unbelievable and in fact treasonous is that Democrats and their cronies in govt. agencies have allowed the world to know that Americans are actively spying and wiretapping diplomats, leaders , and representatives of other countries, friend or foe. Of course, this is all because crooked Hillary lost. Had she won last November none of these discussions or preplanned leaks would have occured.
Yeah, the Russians had no clue we spy on them until now. <smh>
They had no clue the Democrats would take party over country by totally exposing our spying means and methods to the enemy.
Sorry, you're just too fucking stupid to think Russia doesn't know we wiretap them and even dumber to think you can project the rightwing creed of party over country upon Democrats.
 
No one tapped Flynn's phone
Not true, the call between General Flynn and the Russian ambassador was intercepted. Who did it and why? Why was it done without telling Clapper? Was it done without permission? Obama's administration has some questions to answer.

What is so unbelieveable that we have taps on the russians? And anybody stupid enough to call the Russian embassy is going to be recorded by the NSA. So they should be careful what they say.
What is unbelievable and in fact treasonous is that Democrats and their cronies in govt. agencies have allowed the world to know that Americans are actively spying and wiretapping diplomats, leaders , and representatives of other countries, friend or foe. Of course, this is all because crooked Hillary lost. Had she won last November none of these discussions or preplanned leaks would have occured.
Yeah, the Russians had no clue we spy on them until now. <smh>
Yeah, just like you snowflakes had no clue that the Russians hacked out political parties.

What a dumbass.
Hmm, let's see... 17 intelligence agencies confirm Russia hacked the election whereas a low intelligence slug on the Internet denies it.... whom to believe? Touch choice, huh?
 
Not true, the call between General Flynn and the Russian ambassador was intercepted. Who did it and why? Why was it done without telling Clapper? Was it done without permission? Obama's administration has some questions to answer.

What is so unbelieveable that we have taps on the russians? And anybody stupid enough to call the Russian embassy is going to be recorded by the NSA. So they should be careful what they say.
What is unbelievable and in fact treasonous is that Democrats and their cronies in govt. agencies have allowed the world to know that Americans are actively spying and wiretapping diplomats, leaders , and representatives of other countries, friend or foe. Of course, this is all because crooked Hillary lost. Had she won last November none of these discussions or preplanned leaks would have occured.
Yeah, the Russians had no clue we spy on them until now. <smh>
They had no clue the Democrats would take party over country by totally exposing our spying means and methods to the enemy.
Sorry, you're just too fucking stupid to think Russia doesn't know we wiretap them and even dumber to think you can project the rightwing creed of party over country upon Democrats.
Russia is light years ahead in national security...they use typewriters.....
 
That is illegal


How is that illegal.

It's not.

The Treatment of Flynn’s Phone Calls Complies with FISA Minimization Procedures
By David Kris
Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 5:02 PM

It is certainly true that U.S. intelligence services can get orders from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to monitor foreign officials. The Russian ambassador, simply by virtue of his nationality and official position, is an “agent of a foreign power” under FISA and hence a valid target for wiretapping. It is publicly known and acknowledged that the U.S. government uses FISA to wiretap foreign embassies and consulates. So, the Journal may be right that Flynn was picked up on a wiretap of the Russian ambassador.


So legal so far:

But a U.S. person’s name can be used when it is necessary to understand the foreign intelligence information in the report, and no serious argument can be made that Flynn’s identity was not necessary to understand the intelligence significance of his call with Ambassador Kislyak. The call is foreign intelligence information mainly because it involves Flynn.

In a related context, here is what FISA’s legislative history says about minimization rules and substitution of generic identifiers for U.S. person names when those U.S. persons are U.S. government officials (this passage is quoted in the chapter on minimization in my book on national security investigations and prosecutions):

One example [of a situation in which a U.S. person’s name could be disseminated in an intelligence report] would be the identity of a person who is the incumbent of an office of the executive branch of the U.S. Government having significant responsibility for the conduct of U.S. defense or foreign policy, such as the Secretary of State or the State Department country desk officer. The identifiers of such persons would frequently satisfy the “necessary to understand” requirement, especially when such person is referred to in the communications of foreign officials.

Flynn was not the incumbent at the time of the call, but the logic still applies. In short, this is not a close call.


Still legal. Flynn becane a national security risk because of his high national security position and he lied in public about his conversation with a Russian official. And Russians knew it and could use it.

Had Flynn not lied, it's likely nothing would of came from the legal wiretap on Amb Kislyak
although talking about sanction as a private citizen presented some kind of legal predicament.
Of course it's not illegal. That's why Rambunctious can't cite any U.S.
law stating that it is.

It's called the 4th Amendment, moron.
Moron.... show me where the 4th Amendment states we can't wiretap foreign officials...
 
It's delightful to see the RWnuts continue to pretend this happened.
We are enjoying your plantation ignorance.....we fought had over the last year...you are our reward....:lol:
GOP Hill leaders back away from Trump on wiretap allegations - CNNPolitics.com
CNN is very fake news.....

That's the best you got?
So...yes, you do think Obamas Russian spies were deployed.....huh.....
 
It's delightful to see the RWnuts continue to pretend this happened.
We are enjoying your plantation ignorance.....we fought had over the last year...you are our reward....:lol:
GOP Hill leaders back away from Trump on wiretap allegations - CNNPolitics.com
CNN is very fake news.....

That's the best you got?
So...yes, you do think Obamas Russian spies were deployed.....huh.....

English please, hombre.
 
It's delightful to see the RWnuts continue to pretend this happened.
We are enjoying your plantation ignorance.....we fought had over the last year...you are our reward....:lol:
GOP Hill leaders back away from Trump on wiretap allegations - CNNPolitics.com
CNN is very fake news.....

That's the best you got?
So...yes, you do think Obamas Russian spies were deployed.....huh.....

Here was the setup.

Fake Russian Hacking Story of The DNC Server.
That Lie was used to justify wire tapping of The Trump Campaign.
Once a Wire Tap was installed, Obama would send Russian Ambassador Kislyak to The Targets.

It matters not that each target conducted themselves with honor, and did nothing illicit or illegal.
The entire purpose of the illegal wire taps were to undermine and discredit as many Trump Campaign Staff Members as they could.

This is The Biggest Scandal in US History. It is Watergate on Steroids.

The Obama Administration, DNC, & The Clinton Campaign were working with Russia to impact and affect US Elections!

The Dems always accuse others of what they themselves are doing in the shadows. And it's about time America woke up to their seditious and evil ways before they put America and our intelligence community in serious danger, if they haven't already compromised it severely enough.
 
We are enjoying your plantation ignorance.....we fought had over the last year...you are our reward....:lol:
GOP Hill leaders back away from Trump on wiretap allegations - CNNPolitics.com
CNN is very fake news.....

That's the best you got?
So...yes, you do think Obamas Russian spies were deployed.....huh.....

Here was the setup.

Fake Russian Hacking Story of The DNC Server.
That Lie was used to justify wire tapping of The Trump Campaign.
Once a Wire Tap was installed, Obama would send Russian Ambassador Kislyak to The Targets.

It matters not that each target conducted themselves with honor, and did nothing illicit or illegal.
The entire purpose of the illegal wire taps were to undermine and discredit as many Trump Campaign Staff Members as they could.

This is The Biggest Scandal in US History. It is Watergate on Steroids.

The Obama Administration, DNC, & The Clinton Campaign were working with Russia to impact and affect US Elections!

The Dems always accuse others of what they themselves are doing in the shadows. And it's about time America woke up to their seditious and evil ways before they put America and our intelligence community in serious danger, if they haven't already compromised it severely enough.

You're worse than Orly Taitz.
 
We are enjoying your plantation ignorance.....we fought had over the last year...you are our reward....:lol:
GOP Hill leaders back away from Trump on wiretap allegations - CNNPolitics.com
CNN is very fake news.....

That's the best you got?
So...yes, you do think Obamas Russian spies were deployed.....huh.....

Here was the setup.

Fake Russian Hacking Story of The DNC Server.
That Lie was used to justify wire tapping of The Trump Campaign.
Once a Wire Tap was installed, Obama would send Russian Ambassador Kislyak to The Targets.

It matters not that each target conducted themselves with honor, and did nothing illicit or illegal.
The entire purpose of the illegal wire taps were to undermine and discredit as many Trump Campaign Staff Members as they could.

This is The Biggest Scandal in US History. It is Watergate on Steroids.

The Obama Administration, DNC, & The Clinton Campaign were working with Russia to impact and affect US Elections!

The Dems always accuse others of what they themselves are doing in the shadows. And it's about time America woke up to their seditious and evil ways before they put America and our intelligence community in serious danger, if they haven't already compromised it severely enough.
Fake news? Even Trump encouraged the hacking.
 

Here was the setup.

Fake Russian Hacking Story of The DNC Server.
That Lie was used to justify wire tapping of The Trump Campaign.
Once a Wire Tap was installed, Obama would send Russian Ambassador Kislyak to The Targets.

It matters not that each target conducted themselves with honor, and did nothing illicit or illegal.
The entire purpose of the illegal wire taps were to undermine and discredit as many Trump Campaign Staff Members as they could.

This is The Biggest Scandal in US History. It is Watergate on Steroids.

The Obama Administration, DNC, & The Clinton Campaign were working with Russia to impact and affect US Elections!

The Dems always accuse others of what they themselves are doing in the shadows. And it's about time America woke up to their seditious and evil ways before they put America and our intelligence community in serious danger, if they haven't already compromised it severely enough.
Fake news? Even Trump encouraged the hacking.
Link?
 
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