The Original Tree
Diamond Member
I was looking at that pic of that missile again, and it looks like the tip of a missile and that the ordinance did not explode. Am I seeing that right? The shadows are making it hard to get a good look at the thing. The ordinance and upper fins looks separated from the body.Well, here is a problem with Iran. Same as Hezbollah. And The PLO. They build a lot of homemade rockets. So they could model one say after an SA 8, and then who knows what guidance and tech is in it, or how good it is, or even how good the operator is at distinguishing hostile from friendlies?Passenger jets have a transponder that constantly pings so everyone knows who it is and where it is at any given moment.Which is still accidently because they didn't intend to shoot down an airliner.
Same thing when the Vincennes shot down that Iranian airliner. The firing was intentional, but the target wasn't the intended one.
I don't know much about that. But I do suspect with the technology out today, they had some way to decipher between a passenger plane and fighter jet. And given the money DumBama gave them, they could probably have afforded the best detection systems.
I would also think these sandbox warriors had some access to flight records of passenger jets as well. Again, I'm not very well educated on planes and detection systems, but I do believe in the end, it will be proven it could have easily been avoided.
Military fighter jets obviously don't do that.
Does the Iranian Missile control systems have something that looks for the civilian ping? Even if it does, they would have the ability to ignore it if they think someone is using said pinger to disguise a military aircraft.
Most of these systems have an IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) component that looks for a signal friendly aircraft broadcast, but this signal is encoded, for obvious reasons. Not sure if IFF could be set to look for civilian pingers.
Seriously, this could have been a home made SAM System, or an older discontinued system that detected a false positive and then just took the plane out.
I think this was accidental on their part, either by panic or equipment failure. There is no benefit to shooting down a Ukrainian Airliner in a conflict with the US.
I have a feeling that right when the plane got hit, you had some missile battery commander going "Oh shit, Oh Shit, Oh Shit" in Farsi.
Now, regardless, if that thing hit that plane that had just taken off, there was a lot of fuel left in that rocket, & the Fuel left in that rocket, would have made a HUGE Explosion.
To me this looks like a missile that did not detonate it's ordinance, but would have easily taken this airliner out, probably fueled by liquid hydrogen.