Will Hispanic Voters Turn Red States Blue?

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There's been a lot acknowledgment that swing voters (Independents and groups other than traditional political supporters) will determine the outcome of this (and future) presidential election(s).

To that end, it's usual for political parties to engage in outreach to swing voters by addressing issues that these groups find as a higher priority than the general electorate. After all, neither political party wants to be seen as tone deaf to a significantly large part of the electorate if that group could turn the election either for or against their candidate.

But lately, many people have noted that the GOP seems to be alienating significant segments of the electorate (women and Hispanics, for example) in its shift to the right. It's even more pronounced this year since the GOP nomination process is dragging on and the GOP hopefuls are engaged in an extended appeal to the GOP conservative base.

Well, it's one thing to bash unions when union membership numbers are down and still declining. But is it wise to alienate Hispanics which is the fastest growing segment of the population?

So, here's the question: Will traditionally conservative red states see a shift to Democrats and become either blue or purple states in national elections because Democrats are doing a much better job of outreach to Hispanics?


"A lot of it was SB 1070 [anti-illegal immigration act] and what [Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio] was doing in our communities that really triggered it," Guevara tells Raz. "Also, tuition increases and a lot of our Dream Act students basically got kicked out of school because of a proposition that increased tuition significantly."


Critics say Arizona's new immigration law encourages profiling. Republican Sheriff Arpaio's office was cited by the Justice Department for "pervasive culture of discriminatory bias against Latinos." And the Dream Act, which proposes paths to citizenship for some undocumented children of immigrants, is largely opposed by Republican lawmakers.


The issues Guevara mentions – among others — mobilized so many people in western Phoenix that it eventually inspired a recent Time Magazine cover story.


"In the end, we witnessed the greatest grassroots effort in the history of Phoenix politics," Valenzuela says.


The success prompted the Obama campaign to send an operative to Phoenix to learn more about Valenzeula's game plan and how to apply it nationwide; Valenzuela says he believes Arizona is in play this election.
"The Latino voter turnout increased by nearly 500 percent in one particular district," he says, "but over the city of Phoenix, which is the sixth-largest city in the country mind you, it actually increased by over 300 percent across the board."


Latinos like the ones who voted in Phoenix — people who had never voted before — could turn out across the country in such numbers this year that they might hold the power to swing the presidential election.
The way things are looking now, that's bad news for Republicans.
"When I hear some of the policies and the rhetoric that's coming out of the GOP debates, I hear very little other than anti-immigration reform," Valenzuela says. "And those things bother me, personally, and I know that I'm not alone."

Who Will Win Over America's Latino Voters? : NPR

Latino Voters Favor Obama Over Any Republican Candidate Six To One

A poll released this week by FOX News Latino indicates that Latino voters favor President Obama over any other Republican candidate with a six-to-one margin.

Considering the results of the Latino Decisions/ImpreMedia survey last December -- in which, 27 percent of those surveyed said that the GOP was “Being hostile” towards Hispanics, while only 8 percent said the same of Democrats -- perhaps this comes to no surprise.

Latino Voters Favor Obama Over Any Republican Candidate Six To One (POLL)
 
Yeah. The GOP is missing out on a gigantic opportunity. Hispanics are working their asses off, and they are extremely family oriented. And they are deeply religious.

In other words, Hispanics are everything the GOP is all about. Work ethic, mom, America, family, and faith.

So okay, maybe they like their cinnamon on churros instead of apple pie, but COME ON! These people are almost perfect!

But instead of going with demographics, the GOP goes with demagogues. The party paints immigrants with a huge brush as a bunch of illegals, drug smugglers, and job stealers.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Again.
 
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Why do liberals feel the need to separate everyone into racial and cultural boxes? Hispanics and Latinos are AMERICANS first. They should vote for whatever is good for the country- and that means a secure border. Personally, I don't care if Republicans lose every election - doing the right thing is not always easy.
 
Yeah. The GOP is missing out on a gigantic opportunity. Hispanics are working their asses off, and they are extremely family oriented. And they are deeply religious.

In other words, Hispanics are everything the GOP is all about. Work ethic, mom, America, family, and faith.

But instead of going with demographics, the GOP goes with demagogues. The party paints immigrants with a huge brush as a bunch of illegals, drug smugglers, and job stealers.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Again.

So what is your answer to illegal immigration? Do you think anyone should be able to come to the U.S.? Is it o.k to only obey the laws that you think are fair?
 
Arrogant liberals think they can lasso the Hispanic vote, like they do the Black vote, by lumping them all together. They get the Black conformity by tossing scraps from the table at them (in the form of welfare) and say the reason your down is the White Republicans. This farce is effective! They think they can do that via pro-illegal immigration by the Dimocrats.

I remember finding an article that showed the districts that most strongly voted Reddest (I know not a word) in TX, NM and FL throughout the last few decades including the last two election were 90% hispanic. Leftist say Obama killed McCain with Latinos, but he won 60-40 in a VERY Democrat year! Good win but not the 95% win that Democrats get from Blacks and Jews.

Hispanic can NOT be lumped into one category like Democrats do. Hispanics in IL, CA & NY vote very different than Hispanics in FL, TX & NM! Just as Whites vote very different in those states.

You won't even see this in AZ where Democrats erroneous, but successfully labeled the GOP anti-Hispanic. I say a good GOP candidate still get 40% of the Hispanic vote in AZ and any President will get btw 30-40% (which is enough to win the state

Dimcrats believe that Hispanic are all the same! Untrue and insulting. What is true is the fast growing segment of Small Business Owners are Hispanics!

There's been a lot acknowledgment that swing voters (Independents and groups other than traditional political supporters) will determine the outcome of this (and future) presidential election(s).

To that end, it's usual for political parties to engage in outreach to swing voters by addressing issues that these groups find as a higher priority than the general electorate. After all, neither political party wants to be seen as tone deaf to a significantly large part of the electorate if that group could turn the election either for or against their candidate.

But lately, many people have noted that the GOP seems to be alienating significant segments of the electorate (women and Hispanics, for example) in its shift to the right. It's even more pronounced this year since the GOP nomination process is dragging on and the GOP hopefuls are engaged in an extended appeal to the GOP conservative base.

Well, it's one thing to bash unions when union membership numbers are down and still declining. But is it wise to alienate Hispanics which is the fastest growing segment of the population?

So, here's the question: Will traditionally conservative red states see a shift to Democrats and become either blue or purple states in national elections because Democrats are doing a much better job of outreach to Hispanics?


"A lot of it was SB 1070 [anti-illegal immigration act] and what [Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio] was doing in our communities that really triggered it," Guevara tells Raz. "Also, tuition increases and a lot of our Dream Act students basically got kicked out of school because of a proposition that increased tuition significantly."


Critics say Arizona's new immigration law encourages profiling. Republican Sheriff Arpaio's office was cited by the Justice Department for "pervasive culture of discriminatory bias against Latinos." And the Dream Act, which proposes paths to citizenship for some undocumented children of immigrants, is largely opposed by Republican lawmakers.


The issues Guevara mentions – among others — mobilized so many people in western Phoenix that it eventually inspired a recent Time Magazine cover story.


"In the end, we witnessed the greatest grassroots effort in the history of Phoenix politics," Valenzuela says.


The success prompted the Obama campaign to send an operative to Phoenix to learn more about Valenzeula's game plan and how to apply it nationwide; Valenzuela says he believes Arizona is in play this election.
"The Latino voter turnout increased by nearly 500 percent in one particular district," he says, "but over the city of Phoenix, which is the sixth-largest city in the country mind you, it actually increased by over 300 percent across the board."


Latinos like the ones who voted in Phoenix — people who had never voted before — could turn out across the country in such numbers this year that they might hold the power to swing the presidential election.
The way things are looking now, that's bad news for Republicans.
"When I hear some of the policies and the rhetoric that's coming out of the GOP debates, I hear very little other than anti-immigration reform," Valenzuela says. "And those things bother me, personally, and I know that I'm not alone."

Who Will Win Over America's Latino Voters? : NPR

Latino Voters Favor Obama Over Any Republican Candidate Six To One

A poll released this week by FOX News Latino indicates that Latino voters favor President Obama over any other Republican candidate with a six-to-one margin.

Considering the results of the Latino Decisions/ImpreMedia survey last December -- in which, 27 percent of those surveyed said that the GOP was “Being hostile” towards Hispanics, while only 8 percent said the same of Democrats -- perhaps this comes to no surprise.

Latino Voters Favor Obama Over Any Republican Candidate Six To One (POLL)
 
Will they turn blue states red? Maybe the radical hispanic leadership forgot about Bubba Bill pardoning every FALN terrorist in NY prisons when his wife was running as a carpet bagger.
 
Why do liberals feel the need to separate everyone into racial and cultural boxes? Hispanics and Latinos are AMERICANS first. They should vote for whatever is good for the country- and that means a secure border. Personally, I don't care if Republicans lose every election - doing the right thing is not always easy.

Why do conservatives blame everything on liberals?

The FACT of the matter is that BOTH political parties engage in what is commonly known as market segmentation. Businesses do it too.
 
Yeah. The GOP is missing out on a gigantic opportunity. Hispanics are working their asses off, and they are extremely family oriented. And they are deeply religious.

In other words, Hispanics are everything the GOP is all about. Work ethic, mom, America, family, and faith.

But instead of going with demographics, the GOP goes with demagogues. The party paints immigrants with a huge brush as a bunch of illegals, drug smugglers, and job stealers.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Again.

So what is your answer to illegal immigration? Do you think anyone should be able to come to the U.S.? Is it o.k to only obey the laws that you think are fair?

We had full employment before the global credit crisis. That means all those illegals that were here then were not stealing jobs. They were taking jobs that by their very nature are jobs Americans don't want to do. And this has been proven time and again when illegal immigrant crackdowns lead to crops rotting in the fields even though farmers raise wages well above minimum wage to attrace domestic employees.

Migrant work, by definition, is not something someone is going to leave their suburban house every day to do.

What all this means is that we are not meeting the labor demand with the right amount or right kind of labor supply.

So the solution is screamingly obvious: We need to raise our work permit quotas.

If you tell a farmer he can only hire five immigrants and he needs ten to harvest his crops, the answer is NOT to arrest the employer for hiring illegals. The answer is to provide the farmer with the workforce he needs.

We are being incredibly stupid about the way we are going about this.
 
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Why do liberals feel the need to separate everyone into racial and cultural boxes? Hispanics and Latinos are AMERICANS first. They should vote for whatever is good for the country- and that means a secure border. Personally, I don't care if Republicans lose every election - doing the right thing is not always easy.

count people as citizens ,not minorities,we won't have minorities at all.But then your commenting on a political maneuver not whats right.
 
One of the few things George W. Bush got right was calling for increased immigrant worker permits. But he was opposed by stupid idiots in the GOP.

We would totally own the Hispanic vote if we just got smart.
 
Why do liberals feel the need to separate everyone into racial and cultural boxes? Hispanics and Latinos are AMERICANS first. They should vote for whatever is good for the country- and that means a secure border. Personally, I don't care if Republicans lose every election - doing the right thing is not always easy.

Hat tip sir. Reps your way...............
 
Why do liberals feel the need to separate everyone into racial and cultural boxes? Hispanics and Latinos are AMERICANS first. They should vote for whatever is good for the country- and that means a secure border. Personally, I don't care if Republicans lose every election - doing the right thing is not always easy.

Oh, that "We are Americans first" stuff is all nice and romantic, but the GOP does not not treat Hispanics like Americans. They treat them like suspected illegals, drug smugglers, and job stealers.

If you truly wanted to do the right thing, then you would.
 
If you really believe in what you are saying, then either get out there and start picking lettuce, or else raise the work permit quotas.

Simple as that. Our illegal immigration problem would vanish overnight. They won't come here if there isn't a job waiting for them. So either take that job away from them, or give it to them legally.
 
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For Asian-American Republicans, Town Hall a Beginning Complete with Newt Appearance - Milpitas, CA Patch

The most affluent and successful "sub-category" of Americans are Americans of Asian Origins or as they get labelled Asian Americans "AA." AA are most likely to go to college, most likely to make six digits, most likely to own a business and least likely to be on any public assistance! Many support and live by the fiscal conservative ideology! More and more are becoming Republicans. They make up 10% of CA and like most see CA falling apart.

Latino Small Business Owners are the fastest growing group of small business owners in CA. Like all SMO, they tend to vote fiscal conservatively. (1) Taxes hurt them most, because as GE and IL has shown, when business taxes go up, the little guys pay and the big guys get a backdoor tax deal, (2) Increased regulation supported by liberals hurt their business and operations, (3) Obaminationcare punch to the balls now and will be a hammer to the head later, (4) Successful businessmen of any race see the world similar, taxes and regulation are bad, capitalism and free markets are good and (5) SMO see distribution of wealth as socialist taking their money to give to other!

Americans of Asian origins and SMO of Latino origins could save CA!
 
Arrogant liberals think they can lasso the Hispanic vote, like they do the Black vote, by lumping them all together. They get the Black conformity by tossing scraps from the table at them (in the form of welfare) and say the reason your down is the White Republicans. This farce is effective! They think they can do that via pro-illegal immigration by the Dimocrats.

I remember finding an article that showed the districts that most strongly voted Reddest (I know not a word) in TX, NM and FL throughout the last few decades including the last two election were 90% hispanic. Leftist say Obama killed McCain with Latinos, but he won 60-40 in a VERY Democrat year! Good win but not the 95% win that Democrats get from Blacks and Jews.

Hispanic can NOT be lumped into one category like Democrats do. Hispanics in IL, CA & NY vote very different than Hispanics in FL, TX & NM! Just as Whites vote very different in those states.

You won't even see this in AZ where Democrats erroneous, but successfully labeled the GOP anti-Hispanic. I say a good GOP candidate still get 40% of the Hispanic vote in AZ and any President will get btw 30-40% (which is enough to win the state

Dimcrats believe that Hispanic are all the same! Untrue and insulting. What is true is the fast growing segment of Small Business Owners are Hispanics!

There's been a lot acknowledgment that swing voters (Independents and groups other than traditional political supporters) will determine the outcome of this (and future) presidential election(s).

To that end, it's usual for political parties to engage in outreach to swing voters by addressing issues that these groups find as a higher priority than the general electorate. After all, neither political party wants to be seen as tone deaf to a significantly large part of the electorate if that group could turn the election either for or against their candidate.

But lately, many people have noted that the GOP seems to be alienating significant segments of the electorate (women and Hispanics, for example) in its shift to the right. It's even more pronounced this year since the GOP nomination process is dragging on and the GOP hopefuls are engaged in an extended appeal to the GOP conservative base.

Well, it's one thing to bash unions when union membership numbers are down and still declining. But is it wise to alienate Hispanics which is the fastest growing segment of the population?

So, here's the question: Will traditionally conservative red states see a shift to Democrats and become either blue or purple states in national elections because Democrats are doing a much better job of outreach to Hispanics?


"A lot of it was SB 1070 [anti-illegal immigration act] and what [Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio] was doing in our communities that really triggered it," Guevara tells Raz. "Also, tuition increases and a lot of our Dream Act students basically got kicked out of school because of a proposition that increased tuition significantly."


Critics say Arizona's new immigration law encourages profiling. Republican Sheriff Arpaio's office was cited by the Justice Department for "pervasive culture of discriminatory bias against Latinos." And the Dream Act, which proposes paths to citizenship for some undocumented children of immigrants, is largely opposed by Republican lawmakers.


The issues Guevara mentions – among others — mobilized so many people in western Phoenix that it eventually inspired a recent Time Magazine cover story.


"In the end, we witnessed the greatest grassroots effort in the history of Phoenix politics," Valenzuela says.


The success prompted the Obama campaign to send an operative to Phoenix to learn more about Valenzeula's game plan and how to apply it nationwide; Valenzuela says he believes Arizona is in play this election.
"The Latino voter turnout increased by nearly 500 percent in one particular district," he says, "but over the city of Phoenix, which is the sixth-largest city in the country mind you, it actually increased by over 300 percent across the board."


Latinos like the ones who voted in Phoenix — people who had never voted before — could turn out across the country in such numbers this year that they might hold the power to swing the presidential election.
The way things are looking now, that's bad news for Republicans.
"When I hear some of the policies and the rhetoric that's coming out of the GOP debates, I hear very little other than anti-immigration reform," Valenzuela says. "And those things bother me, personally, and I know that I'm not alone."

Who Will Win Over America's Latino Voters? : NPR
Latino Voters Favor Obama Over Any Republican Candidate Six To One

A poll released this week by FOX News Latino indicates that Latino voters favor President Obama over any other Republican candidate with a six-to-one margin.

Considering the results of the Latino Decisions/ImpreMedia survey last December -- in which, 27 percent of those surveyed said that the GOP was “Being hostile” towards Hispanics, while only 8 percent said the same of Democrats -- perhaps this comes to no surprise.

Latino Voters Favor Obama Over Any Republican Candidate Six To One (POLL)

Did you bother to read the links? Like the one where FOX News Latino released a poll that showed Latino voters favor Obama over ANY Republican candidate by a 6-1 margin.
 
Why do liberals feel the need to separate everyone into racial and cultural boxes? Hispanics and Latinos are AMERICANS first. They should vote for whatever is good for the country- and that means a secure border. Personally, I don't care if Republicans lose every election - doing the right thing is not always easy.

count people as citizens ,not minorities,we won't have minorities at all.But then your commenting on a political maneuver not whats right.

^^^^ This.
 
I seem to recall reading a few years ago that CA, NM, and TX are states where non-Hispanic whites are now a minority.

So, if the GOP loses TX and it electoral votes in some future presidential election, would that serve as a wake up call?
 
Arrogant liberals think they can lasso the Hispanic vote, like they do the Black vote, by lumping them all together. They get the Black conformity by tossing scraps from the table at them (in the form of welfare) and say the reason your down is the White Republicans. This farce is effective! They think they can do that via pro-illegal immigration by the Dimocrats.

I remember finding an article that showed the districts that most strongly voted Reddest (I know not a word) in TX, NM and FL throughout the last few decades including the last two election were 90% hispanic. Leftist say Obama killed McCain with Latinos, but he won 60-40 in a VERY Democrat year! Good win but not the 95% win that Democrats get from Blacks and Jews.

Hispanic can NOT be lumped into one category like Democrats do. Hispanics in IL, CA & NY vote very different than Hispanics in FL, TX & NM! Just as Whites vote very different in those states.

You won't even see this in AZ where Democrats erroneous, but successfully labeled the GOP anti-Hispanic. I say a good GOP candidate still get 40% of the Hispanic vote in AZ and any President will get btw 30-40% (which is enough to win the state

Dimcrats believe that Hispanic are all the same! Untrue and insulting. What is true is the fast growing segment of Small Business Owners are Hispanics!

There's been a lot acknowledgment that swing voters (Independents and groups other than traditional political supporters) will determine the outcome of this (and future) presidential election(s).

To that end, it's usual for political parties to engage in outreach to swing voters by addressing issues that these groups find as a higher priority than the general electorate. After all, neither political party wants to be seen as tone deaf to a significantly large part of the electorate if that group could turn the election either for or against their candidate.

But lately, many people have noted that the GOP seems to be alienating significant segments of the electorate (women and Hispanics, for example) in its shift to the right. It's even more pronounced this year since the GOP nomination process is dragging on and the GOP hopefuls are engaged in an extended appeal to the GOP conservative base.

Well, it's one thing to bash unions when union membership numbers are down and still declining. But is it wise to alienate Hispanics which is the fastest growing segment of the population?

So, here's the question: Will traditionally conservative red states see a shift to Democrats and become either blue or purple states in national elections because Democrats are doing a much better job of outreach to Hispanics?

Did you bother to read the links? Like the one where FOX News Latino released a poll that showed Latino voters favor Obama over ANY Republican candidate by a 6-1 margin.

No I did not. With my promotion I can only do hit and runs here. No time for reading entire posts or articles.
 
I seem to recall reading a few years ago that CA, NM, and TX are states where non-Hispanic whites are now a minority.

So, if the GOP loses TX and it electoral votes in some future presidential election, would that serve as a wake up call?

TX is still over 50% white and the TX hispanics vote more conservatives than the whites do. No threat of a blue Texas anytime soon. CA has been liberal for long before the Hispanics accounted for 10% of the population!
 
Yeah. The GOP is missing out on a gigantic opportunity. Hispanics are working their asses off, and they are extremely family oriented. And they are deeply religious.

In other words, Hispanics are everything the GOP is all about. Work ethic, mom, America, family, and faith.

So okay, maybe they like their cinnamon on churros instead of apple pie, but COME ON! These people are almost perfect!

But instead of going with demographics, the GOP goes with demagogues. The party paints immigrants with a huge brush as a bunch of illegals, drug smugglers, and job stealers.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Again.
We don't. Liberals lie when they say we do.

Conservatives are anti-illegal immigrants, regardless of their origin.

Now that you've been corrected, please stop repeating the lie.
 

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