Wife of man murdered by FBI and Oregon State Police files suit

Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.
The FBI does that, murdering people who are thought to be in a militia. 25 years ago, the FBI HRT were gunning down an entire family at Ruby Ridge. Their crime? Being white separatists. Fuck the FBI and I hope she wins.



Ruby Ridge and Waco were crimes. What occurred in Oregon wasn't, other than what the moronic Bundy's and Co. committed.
The FBI's credibility is tarnished. I await with interest the outcome of this civil action. Clearly the plaintiff feels they have a case.

BTW, if the federal government remained inside its constitutional restraints, maybe so many people wouldn't feel the need to take up arms against it. From a Constitutional standpoint, it's hard to defend the BLM's claim to own so much of OUR land and then charge us for using it. It's FUBAR from the start.






The BLM absolutely broke the law when they began killing Bundy's cows. That is an illegal taking. I have stated all along that what the feds did with the Bundy's was stupid and asinine. However, Amons take over of the complex in Oregon was the stupidest thing he could have done.
That's how Ruby Ridge went down, with the federal government making the first illegal move that got the who ball rolling.





I agree. Ruby Ridge was a illegal operation from the get go. The BLM when they began killing cows broke the law too. The defense of the cows I had no problem with. All these knuckleheads who whine about the Bundy's defending themselves with guns ignore the one simple fact, the BLM brought guns to the party first.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.

Who was 'murdered'? Finicum tried to run a police officer down after a high speed chance and was shot while reaching for a gun.

The man was trying to murder a cop when he was shot. That piece of shit's life wasn't worth a cop's life. I'm glad the police put him down before he hurt anyone.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.




They will lose. And they SHOULD lose. Finicum was a dumb jackass who had been making threats for the duration. No reasonable person is going to listen to the hours of video they have of this clown and think he wasn't capable of carrying out the very threats he was making.
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.

Who was 'murdered'? Finicum tried to run a police officer down after a high speed chance and was shot while reaching for a gun.

The man was trying to murder a cop when he was shot. That piece of shit's life wasn't worth a cop's life. I'm glad the police put him down before he hurt anyone.
There's more too it than that, hence the lawsuit.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.




They will lose. And they SHOULD lose. Finicum was a dumb jackass who had been making threats for the duration. No reasonable person is going to listen to the hours of video they have of this clown and think he wasn't capable of carrying out the very threats he was making.
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.

Don't forget god told them to do it .
Also that ass clown bragged to reporters that they'd have to kill him .
He got his wish, she has no valid case and will lose.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.




They will lose. And they SHOULD lose. Finicum was a dumb jackass who had been making threats for the duration. No reasonable person is going to listen to the hours of video they have of this clown and think he wasn't capable of carrying out the very threats he was making.
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.

Don't forget god told them to do it .
Also that ass clown bragged to reporters that they'd have to kill him .
He got his wish, she has no valid case and will lose.
Probably not.
 
They will lose. And they SHOULD lose. Finicum was a dumb jackass who had been making threats for the duration. No reasonable person is going to listen to the hours of video they have of this clown and think he wasn't capable of carrying out the very threats he was making.
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.

Don't forget god told them to do it .
Also that ass clown bragged to reporters that they'd have to kill him .
He got his wish, she has no valid case and will lose.
Probably not.
You can dream.
 
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.

Don't forget god told them to do it .
Also that ass clown bragged to reporters that they'd have to kill him .
He got his wish, she has no valid case and will lose.
Probably not.
You can dream.
You're probably a young punk that has not witnessed the pattern of abuse by the FBI against American citizen groups. They have murdered dozens of people. It won't be hard for a sharp lawyer to make this event fit that same pattern.
 
What he said was that if the feds attacked him for peaceful protest, or if.feds.came to assault him or take his.property, he would shoot back.

Statist slaves can't comprehend the difference between self defense and aggression. It's because they come from sad families where the only teaching that takes place is teaching endorsed bybthe state. That's why Chinese people think their leader is a God. In our country, the weakminded dolts see our illegal government agencies as the god.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.




They will lose. And they SHOULD lose. Finicum was a dumb jackass who had been making threats for the duration. No reasonable person is going to listen to the hours of video they have of this clown and think he wasn't capable of carrying out the very threats he was making.
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.





Yes, they did. The Bundy bumbling brigade made life very difficult for the actual residents of the area. As much as the locals don't like the feds, what the bundy's did was far worse according to the locals.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.




They will lose. And they SHOULD lose. Finicum was a dumb jackass who had been making threats for the duration. No reasonable person is going to listen to the hours of video they have of this clown and think he wasn't capable of carrying out the very threats he was making.
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.





Yes, they did. The Bundy bumbling brigade made life very difficult for the actual residents of the area. As much as the locals don't like the feds, what the bundy's did was far worse according to the locals.
I think you're being deliberately partisan here. The Bundys enjoyed widespread support from the community and people all across the country, something you're just deciding to ignore. You found a few malcontents among the many locals who appreciated that somebody was standing up to the federal government, which doesn't happen often enough.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.




They will lose. And they SHOULD lose. Finicum was a dumb jackass who had been making threats for the duration. No reasonable person is going to listen to the hours of video they have of this clown and think he wasn't capable of carrying out the very threats he was making.
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.





Yes, they did. The Bundy bumbling brigade made life very difficult for the actual residents of the area. As much as the locals don't like the feds, what the bundy's did was far worse according to the locals.
Bullshit. The Bundy presence was welcome, its the feds who have made the.lives of the locals hell on earth...and it didn't start in January of this year.

The.people of the rural areas of.Oregon DESPISE the federal invaders. They always have.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.

Who was 'murdered'? Finicum tried to run a police officer down after a high speed chance and was shot while reaching for a gun.

The man was trying to murder a cop when he was shot. That piece of shit's life wasn't worth a cop's life. I'm glad the police put him down before he hurt anyone.
There's more too it than that, hence the lawsuit.

Laughing....if the capacity to file a law suit established a genuine controversy, Trump would be in jail for raping a 13 year old girl.

But that's not how it works, is it?

Alas, its the evidence that backs the suit where the veracity of contrevery lies. And in that Finnicum's family fails miserably. As Finicum defied a lawful order to surrender, lead the cops on a high speed chase, tried to run an officer down while running a road block and then was shot trying to pull a gun and murder a police officer.

They're going to lose. And should.
 
Wife of Oregon militia leader killed by cops to sue FBI

The paper managed to lie in the first paragraph! He wasn't running from anyone. In fact he was shot at while driving to a meeting and then got out with his hands up and was shot in the back. AKA MURDER.

“There is now physical evidence (shell casings) that proves that two FBI agents lied during the law enforcement investigation by stating they did not fire the first shots at Finicum’s vehicle,” Claypool told the news site in a statement.

Who was 'murdered'? Finicum tried to run a police officer down after a high speed chance and was shot while reaching for a gun.

The man was trying to murder a cop when he was shot. That piece of shit's life wasn't worth a cop's life. I'm glad the police put him down before he hurt anyone.
There's more too it than that, hence the lawsuit.

Laughing....if the capacity to file a law suit established a genuine controversy, Trump would be in jail for raping a 13 year old girl.

But that's not how it works, is it?

Alas, its the evidence that backs the suit where the veracity of contrevery lies. And in that Finnicum's family fails miserably. As Finicum defied a lawful order to surrender, lead the cops on a high speed chase, tried to run an officer down while running a road block and then was shot trying to pull a gun and murder a police officer.

They're going to lose. And should.
If the lawsuit isn't thrown out, then the plaintiff has a case.
 
Festus vowed to not be taken alive. The cops shot him when he reached for his gun. Festus wasn't fast enough on his quick draw. He died with his booties on.


so what

he never produced a firearm

yet they repeatedly tried to kill him and others in the vehicle
Didn't have to produce a firearm. Once he made the threatening motion of dropping his hands to reach under his vest, he was as good as dead.


he was shot long before he dropped his hands

he was shot at when he fled the first stop

and as he approached the second stop

he was shot at when he exited the truck
There is video, with audio, of him driving off from the first stop. No shots are heard.

Stop lying.
 
They will lose. And they SHOULD lose. Finicum was a dumb jackass who had been making threats for the duration. No reasonable person is going to listen to the hours of video they have of this clown and think he wasn't capable of carrying out the very threats he was making.
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.





Yes, they did. The Bundy bumbling brigade made life very difficult for the actual residents of the area. As much as the locals don't like the feds, what the bundy's did was far worse according to the locals.
Bullshit. The Bundy presence was welcome, its the feds who have made the.lives of the locals hell on earth...and it didn't start in January of this year.

The.people of the rural areas of.Oregon DESPISE the federal invaders. They always have.




According to my friend who was on the ground, they weren't. They were at best tolerated, and at worst there were locals who would happily have shot them.
 
Saying you will defend yourself from assault isn't a threat. And you shouldn't be passing judgement based on what the paper publishes, because both the reporters, and law enforcement, are hard core, seasoned liars.






The way he was doing it absolutely was stupid. His cause is correct. His way of dealing with it was asinine thus he, and they lost all credibility with those who they were ostensibly there to help. The PEOPLE in the region HATED them and wanted them gone. A good friend of mine was up there helping the locals because they couldn't get to medical care so my friend set up a medical aid station to take care of the locals and the locals ALL hated the idiots.
See, that's all bullshit. The people in the region did NOT hate them. The Government officials and their families hated them, and sadly, those asshats, who.are despised by the locals, make up.about sixty percent of the.population, and include.the.press.

The RANCHERS and the non government dependent community at large, both in burns and john day, DESPISE the fed presence just as the brits loathed the.romans, and the scoots.loathed the brits.

You are regurgitating lies that are told by the propaganda machine...taking the.word.of tyrants that their subjects are fully supportive.of tyranny. The.local ranchers fed these guys and were out there supporting them every day and night.

You can disagre with tactics but you are dead wrong when you say the.locals hate these guys. Locals are traveling to.Portland every week to stand outside the.jail where the bundys are to raise.awareness and to protest. Ranchers are meeting in secret because they don't dare to speak out or defy ilegal encroachment, assault and harassment. Locals are.regular being harassed and.fined STILL for speaking.out against the pigs who have set up shop and are.doing the bidding.of the.feds.

Gads go to the freaking stores and cafes.there and talk to them. It immediately becomes obvious that A. the media is lying about the nature of the.situation, and 2. this aboutnresistance to unwanted federal. occupation.





Yes, they did. The Bundy bumbling brigade made life very difficult for the actual residents of the area. As much as the locals don't like the feds, what the bundy's did was far worse according to the locals.
Bullshit. The Bundy presence was welcome, its the feds who have made the.lives of the locals hell on earth...and it didn't start in January of this year.

The.people of the rural areas of.Oregon DESPISE the federal invaders. They always have.




According to my friend who was on the ground, they weren't. They were at best tolerated, and at worst there were locals who would happily have shot them.
Your friend's an idiot and just as biased as you. There's no denying that the Bundy's enjoyed widespread community support.

I remember very well the Ruby Ridge incident. People showed up for miles around to show their support and to protest the massive military buildup against this "dangerous" family. I don't know where the fuck you live, but up here in the Northwest, we have a certain feeling about boorish federal government. If Idaho made the step to secede, Oregon, Washington, and Montana would certainly follow suit. I grew up here, I know these people and I know how they feel about Bundy's group. There is a strong anti federal thug government sentiment here and he most certainly tapped into that.
 
What he said was that if the feds attacked him for peaceful protest, or if.feds.came to assault him or take his.property, he would shoot back.

Statist slaves can't comprehend the difference between self defense and aggression. It's because they come from sad families where the only teaching that takes place is teaching endorsed bybthe state. That's why Chinese people think their leader is a God. In our country, the weakminded dolts see our illegal government agencies as the god.
He said he would get himself killed before going to jail. In his final moment, with law enforcement agents training their arms on him, he made a reaching motion, forcing the LEO's to fulfil his death wish.
 

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