Why The "War on Terror" Will Fail

sambino510

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For most of this century, our leaders have employed all sorts of techniques to try to prevent further acts of terror from occurring. The government has its hand in what seems to be every major social media source, along with our phone records and essentially every other way of keeping tabs on citizens. Every time we go to an airport we have to remove our shoes, subject ourselves to sometimes humiliating and invasive frisking, and keep almost all liquid containers out of our luggage. In all, for each failed and successful terrorist action there has been an opposite, but not so equal, reaction.

The issue for all of us should be if any of these procedures actually makes the average person safer. Does it prevent someone from going to Big 5, buying a gun, and killing ten people in their local mall before the police can react? Does it keep someone from discreetly loading a car with explosives and driving into Times Square? I find it hard to believe that the government, barring unknown psychic powers, can keep such things from occurring. Our society is no more secure, no less violent, by my judgment, than it was a decade ago.

The question then is why these sorts of things do not occur more often. If it's so seemingly easy to commit such effective, if not basic acts of terror, why do groups like Al Qaeda not exploit it? It's impossible to know, but perhaps they feel the war is already over. Perhaps they won the day after 9/11 was a success, when we flew our troops halfway around the world fighting the wrong people. Or perhaps they won when we expended billions of dollars in a futile battle, trying to defeat an emotion, defeat terror, by beating it down with a stick. Perhaps they won the day we let fear and anger drive us to irrational, immoral acts.

Al-Qaeda's goal on 9/11 was not to kill a few thousand people. It was to take such an event and cause a massive domino effect that would drastically change the course of U.S. history. They exploited our belief that every problem Americans face can be solved by enough military might and government oversight. They scared us into playing right into their hands.

The fact of the matter is, terrorism has its name for a reason, and would be re-defined if it was simply about killing people. Instead, it is indeed about "terrorizing". It's about scaring people enough where they don't want to leave their homes, don't want to be in large crowds, don't want to take certain trips, etc. It's about controlling our minds through fear, and intimidation. In all, it's psychological warfare, and can't be defeated with any bullet or missile.

The War on Terror will fail because we are trying to fight it with the wrong weapons. Instead of relying on outer strength such as guns, drones, and missiles, we must instead employ inner strength. The War on Terror is one that must be fought in the mind, by all of us. The best thing one can do when confronted with a terrorist-like act, where someone tries to employ fear tactics to draw a reaction is to simply ignore them. When they are pushed to the outer margins, these terror groups lose their ability to influence the masses. They have no power to intimidate if they are no longer relevant. When these people smack us across the face, we must truly turn the other cheek. Any sort of reaction will only perpetuate this cycle of violence we are currently facing.

I refuse to live in fear, and everyone who reads this should feel the same way.
 
Let's put it this way.. War as we know it will never end.. As a country, what we need to focus on more than anything is protecting our own borders and staying out of other country's business.. We need to reduce the military size and welfare spending and get the debt down so the Dollar is stronger and so the future generations won't have to deal with this massive turmoil down the road..
 
If you don't take out the ants in your yard they will eventually take over your yard.

The ants will never go away, so it is a never ending battle.
 
The War on Terror will fail because we are trying to fight it with the wrong weapons. Instead of relying on outer strength such as guns, drones, and missiles, we must instead employ inner strength. The War on Terror is one that must be fought in the mind, by all of us. The best thing one can do when confronted with a terrorist-like act, where someone tries to employ fear tactics to draw a reaction is to simply ignore them.

You don't control ants by thinking happy thoughts. You are a very naive person.

When you find them you crush them absolutely. You make sure they understand they will be held accountable for their actions. You don't do this with ROE's, or long ground actions..........You toast their butts and the countries who sponsor them to make them understand they will pay a price for their actions.

You hit and run, and leave before the dust settles. Not engage in a decade old War. Until countries who support terror pay a price for their support you will see no change.
 
The 'War on Terror' will never fail...and it will never end now...the world is full of Islamic terrorists...whose numbers are growing.

Dead terrorists cannot kill anyone
Break out the Stealths!

Nor can terrorists locked up for life.
 
The War on Terror will fail because we are trying to fight it with the wrong weapons. Instead of relying on outer strength such as guns, drones, and missiles, we must instead employ inner strength. The War on Terror is one that must be fought in the mind, by all of us. The best thing one can do when confronted with a terrorist-like act, where someone tries to employ fear tactics to draw a reaction is to simply ignore them.

You don't control ants by thinking happy thoughts. You are a very naive person.

When you find them you crush them absolutely. You make sure they understand they will be held accountable for their actions. You don't do this with ROE's, or long ground actions..........You toast their butts and the countries who sponsor them to make them understand they will pay a price for their actions.

You hit and run, and leave before the dust settles. Not engage in a decade old War. Until countries who support terror pay a price for their support you will see no change.

I'm not simply saying we must just think positive thoughts. What I mean is that fighting fire with fire is never going to provide a permanent solution to our conflicts. If we kill a child's father, for instance, or blow up his home with a drone strike, that child is likely to seek revenge. Then we kill that child once he is fully grown, then his son does the same, and so on. Until you fight negativity with positivity, that is the only reaction we are going to get.

Our mistake is trying to fight an unconventional war with conventional methods. Blowing them all to hell does nothing to advance our cause, but rather exacerbates the problem.
 
The War on Terror will fail because we are trying to fight it with the wrong weapons. Instead of relying on outer strength such as guns, drones, and missiles, we must instead employ inner strength. The War on Terror is one that must be fought in the mind, by all of us. The best thing one can do when confronted with a terrorist-like act, where someone tries to employ fear tactics to draw a reaction is to simply ignore them.

You don't control ants by thinking happy thoughts. You are a very naive person.

When you find them you crush them absolutely. You make sure they understand they will be held accountable for their actions. You don't do this with ROE's, or long ground actions..........You toast their butts and the countries who sponsor them to make them understand they will pay a price for their actions.

You hit and run, and leave before the dust settles. Not engage in a decade old War. Until countries who support terror pay a price for their support you will see no change.

I'm not simply saying we must just think positive thoughts. What I mean is that fighting fire with fire is never going to provide a permanent solution to our conflicts. If we kill a child's father, for instance, or blow up his home with a drone strike, that child is likely to seek revenge. Then we kill that child once he is fully grown, then his son does the same, and so on. Until you fight negativity with positivity, that is the only reaction we are going to get.

Our mistake is trying to fight an unconventional war with conventional methods. Blowing them all to hell does nothing to advance our cause, but rather exacerbates the problem.

That has been going on since the beginning of time...................

What should we do when they attack us..........send them flowers instead............

They have a 7th century mentality. When they aren't killing each other because their Islam is better than the other Islam, they are plotting to kill us infidels...............

No one in the world has come up with the solution to end this. No one really. So the fight will continue, and we should respond with force in kind.
 
Were the last terrorist to die quietly of old age and inactivity you'd never hear of it.

Count on it. Obama and his little playmates (really think Moochelle and the girls won't successively run to make it a real dynasty?) will play you like a violin with constant nibbles at your rights in the interest of defending against "the terrorists". The flavour may change (sometimes they'll be religious fanatics; other times offended by videos, etc.) but the tone never will.

The War on Terror is and always has been a war on American freedoms. The irony is that the perpetrators are not primarily outsiders. Maybe once....but surer'n hell not now.
 
"Terror" was invented by the communists. Accept that and we can move on. Just a fact.

Terror was first used by communist insurgents all over the world. Sometimes very successfully, sometimes not.

During the 'Cold War' we had something, someone to go after -- The Soviet Union. Which was where the heart of ALL terrorism in this world lie.

But we defeated the Soviets. Not by a head-on, direct assault with Tanks and Planes and Infantry.... But in little places. Places all over the world where the Soviets used terror and insurgency to seize power.

We fought them at every turn.... Well, Patriotic Republicans did... dimocrap scum? Not so much.

It got to the point that it became so expensive for the Soviets, that they spent so much of their time, energy and natural resources supporting terrorist causes around the world, that they had nothing left for their own people.

Viet Nam was the breaking point for them. That War cost them Billions. Billions.

All those MIGs, all the weapons, artillery, ammunition, SAMs.... They cost a lot of money.

It took a few years but the wear and tear of us fighting them at every turn eventually wore them down.

We can and we will do the same thing to today's practitioners of Soviet doctrine -- Terrorists.

We're going to wear them down. It might take a few years or even a few decades, but they are destined to lose.

GW Bush set the goal and the standard and the lying cocksucker-in-chief has no alternative but to follow on with the Strategy... As much as he'd like to leave them alone to murder, rape, torture... He can't. It would end him.

The terrorists are going to lose. As long as we have the ability to put Patriotic Conservatives in the White House, they are doomed.

If we keep putting gutless, cowardly gaywad scum like the lying cocksucker-in-chief in Office, they might have a chance.... Until we eventually get around to them.

They lose in the end. They don't have achance
 
"Terror" was invented by the communists. Accept that and we can move on. Just a fact.

Terror was first used by communist insurgents all over the world. Sometimes very successfully, sometimes not.

During the 'Cold War' we had something, someone to go after -- The Soviet Union. Which was where the heart of ALL terrorism in this world lie.

But we defeated the Soviets. Not by a head-on, direct assault with Tanks and Planes and Infantry.... But in little places. Places all over the world where the Soviets used terror and insurgency to seize power.

We fought them at every turn.... Well, Patriotic Republicans did... dimocrap scum? Not so much.

It got to the point that it became so expensive for the Soviets, that they spent so much of their time, energy and natural resources supporting terrorist causes around the world, that they had nothing left for their own people.

Viet Nam was the breaking point for them. That War cost them Billions. Billions.

All those MIGs, all the weapons, artillery, ammunition, SAMs.... They cost a lot of money.

It took a few years but the wear and tear of us fighting them at every turn eventually wore them down.

We can and we will do the same thing to today's practitioners of Soviet doctrine -- Terrorists.

We're going to wear them down. It might take a few years or even a few decades, but they are destined to lose.

GW Bush set the goal and the standard and the lying cocksucker-in-chief has no alternative but to follow on with the Strategy... As much as he'd like to leave them alone to murder, rape, torture... He can't. It would end him.

The terrorists are going to lose. As long as we have the ability to put Patriotic Conservatives in the White House, they are doomed.

If we keep putting gutless, cowardly gaywad scum like the lying cocksucker-in-chief in Office, they might have a chance.... Until we eventually get around to them.

They lose in the end. They don't have achance

The area in which I would disagree is what it means for a terrorist to "lose". What do you think their goal is, ultimately? To kill all of us? They might not be the most rational people, but even they know this is not possible. Instead, maybe they indeed want us to fight them for decades on end until we've expended all our resources and crippled our infrastructure in a hopeless war.

Also, I hope you are not citing the Vietnam War as a success story. Last I checked we probably lost equally as much money through the war as the Soviets did, and even if we didn't, we simply lost the war, not to mention over 50,000 American lives. It took another twenty years for the Soviet Union to actually collapse, so I doubt the Vietnam War is something we can all hang our hats on.

I'm no fan of Obama either, but your choice of insults in describing him are childish and unnecessary. I will agree with calling him a liar, but things like gaywad and cocksucker are both derogatory and inaccurate. As an adult, I would hope that we can all do better than that in an intelligent political discussion. Just a thought.
 
If a person is determined to kill you killing him first is a positive action.

I don't believe in any sort of killing as a "positive" action. A necessary action in some cases, perhaps, but never can there be positive destruction. What it is going to take to end the vicious cycle of human war is all of us choosing to end it. It might not be the most realistic goal, but it would seem tearing each other to pieces for hundreds of years has so far proved fruitless. Thus, how about try something different?
 
"Terror" was invented by the communists. Accept that and we can move on. Just a fact.

Terror was first used by communist insurgents all over the world. Sometimes very successfully, sometimes not.

During the 'Cold War' we had something, someone to go after -- The Soviet Union. Which was where the heart of ALL terrorism in this world lie.

But we defeated the Soviets. Not by a head-on, direct assault with Tanks and Planes and Infantry.... But in little places. Places all over the world where the Soviets used terror and insurgency to seize power.

We fought them at every turn.... Well, Patriotic Republicans did... dimocrap scum? Not so much.

It got to the point that it became so expensive for the Soviets, that they spent so much of their time, energy and natural resources supporting terrorist causes around the world, that they had nothing left for their own people.

Viet Nam was the breaking point for them. That War cost them Billions. Billions.

All those MIGs, all the weapons, artillery, ammunition, SAMs.... They cost a lot of money.

It took a few years but the wear and tear of us fighting them at every turn eventually wore them down.

We can and we will do the same thing to today's practitioners of Soviet doctrine -- Terrorists.

We're going to wear them down. It might take a few years or even a few decades, but they are destined to lose.

GW Bush set the goal and the standard and the lying cocksucker-in-chief has no alternative but to follow on with the Strategy... As much as he'd like to leave them alone to murder, rape, torture... He can't. It would end him.

The terrorists are going to lose. As long as we have the ability to put Patriotic Conservatives in the White House, they are doomed.

If we keep putting gutless, cowardly gaywad scum like the lying cocksucker-in-chief in Office, they might have a chance.... Until we eventually get around to them.

They lose in the end. They don't have achance

The area in which I would disagree is what it means for a terrorist to "lose". What do you think their goal is, ultimately? To kill all of us? They might not be the most rational people, but even they know this is not possible. Instead, maybe they indeed want us to fight them for decades on end until we've expended all our resources and crippled our infrastructure in a hopeless war.

Also, I hope you are not citing the Vietnam War as a success story. Last I checked we probably lost equally as much money through the war as the Soviets did, and even if we didn't, we simply lost the war, not to mention over 50,000 American lives. It took another twenty years for the Soviet Union to actually collapse, so I doubt the Vietnam War is something we can all hang our hats on.

I'm no fan of Obama either, but your choice of insults in describing him are childish and unnecessary. I will agree with calling him a liar, but things like gaywad and cocksucker are both derogatory and inaccurate. As an adult, I would hope that we can all do better than that in an intelligent political discussion. Just a thought.

We won the War, we lost the Peace. Paris Peace Accords; Le Duc Tho and Henry Kissinger awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace.

We won the War.

When the North re-invaded the South, they did so with over 900 Tanks and 17 Divisions -- More than the entire US Military has had on Active Duty at any time since WWII.

dimocrap scum and a few gutless, cowardly republicans voted in the Case Church Amendment and other Legislation to prevent Gerald Ford from intervening in the plight of the South Vietnamese and we abrogated our Treaty Obligations and left eh South Vietnamese to their fate.

IOW, we stabbed them in the back.

Makes you proud, huh?

Before the North re-invaded, it was essential for the communists in America (aka; dimocraps) to remove Nixon from Office.

Tricky Dick was one tough old bastard. He would have told Congress to eat shit and bombed the North Vietnamese to Hell as soon as they were exposed.

Long Story. One which few Americans are aware of. All the average American knows is the lies told by the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM.

Look at Vietnam now. One of the poorest Countries on Earth. Their people are still pig farming, rice-eating, betel nut chewing morons.

Forty years later, their per Capita GDP is $1,755 which puts them squarely between Ghana and Nicaragua.

And the rest of the World has moved on.

You call that winning? I don't. Not to mention the holocaust in Cambodia and the fact that many people believe the communists in Viet Nam were actually worse and murdered more people than Pol Pot.

Us? Yeah, the War hurt us. Financially and politically.

But it KILLED the Soviets. It was the beginning of the end for them.

Whether you choose to believe it or not, it was Viet Nam that lit the fuse of the demise of the Soviet Union.

They were broke. Their own people started to get sick and tired of their government supporting, financing and building arms for every crackpot Dictator in the World.

They got tired of waiting in line for hours and hours after getting a ration, two years later, for a pair of shoes.

They got tired of waiting five years to buy a car (which was a TOTAL piece of shit anyway).

They got tired of the gubmint producing Millions of Tonnes of Steel while they couldn't get anything other than horse meat for dinner.

They lost. Know why I know that?

They no longer exist. The Soviet Union is gone. And it ain't never coming back.... As much as Vlad Putin wants it, to... It is gone forever.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth. They want to revive the same tired old shit

ETA:
To calling obama names? They're not insults; simply observations.
 
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