Why the Republican Party is doomed

[Truthmatters]

Florida Felons list

The machine distribution in democratic areas in ohio 2004.

The phone bank scandal

The court ordered sanction of the republican party in the 1980s

 

[AllieBaba]

There policies benifit the rich, that is why they throw in the christian right bent to come close to winning elections, then they cheat the rest of the way to win.

Its over now though, Obama proved they cant cheat enough to win anymore.

Also, let me remind you that during Bush's watch our taxes were drastically reduced, and huge incentives were provided to the working poor. In addition, programs were developed which brought sliding scale to free health care to the poorest, most rural communities in America.

Tell me how that benefits the rich. Then compare that with Obama's wife's huge salary which she gave herself out of a limited bucket of money earmarked to help the poorest of the poor who were clogging the ER in a big-city hospital. After using that money to send the patients to different area hospitals, she took an extended leave of absence. Tell me how that benefits the poor, you dumbass.

 

[Truthmatters]

Caging (voter suppression) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Evidence of caging in the United States

[edit] 1980s
In 1981 and 1986 the Republican National Committee (RNC) sent out letters to predominately African-American neighborhoods. When tens of thousands of them were returned undeliverable, the party successfully challenged the voters and had them deleted from voting rolls. Due to the violation of the Voting Rights Act, the RNC was taken to court. Its officials entered a consent decree which prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that targeted minorities or conducting mail campaigns to "compile voter challenge lists."[5]


[edit] 2004 US Election
BBC journalist Greg Palast obtained an RNC document entitled "State Implementation Template III.doc" that described Republican election operations for caging plans in numerous states. The paragraph in the document pertaining to caging was:

V. Pre Election Day Operations New Registration Mailing
At whatever point registration in the state closes, a first class mailing should be sent to all new registrants as well as purged/inactive voters. This mailing should welcome the recipient to the voter rolls. It is important that a return address is clearly identifiable. Any mail returned as undeliverable for any reason, should be used to generate a list of problematic registrations. Poll watchers should have this list and be prepared to challenge anyone from this list attempting to vote.[6][7]

Shortly before the 2004 election, journalist Palast also obtained a caging list for Jacksonville, Florida, which contained a high number of African Americans and registered Democrats. The caging list was attached to an email which a Florida Republican party official was sending to RNC headquarters official Tim Griffin. [7] [8] [9]
The Republican National Committee sent letters to predominately urban minority areas in Ohio. When 35,000 letters were returned as undeliverable, the party employed poll watchers to challenge the voters. Voting rights groups challenged the RNC in a case that went to the Supreme Court, but the RNC was not stopped from challenging those voters. Similarly, the RNC sent out 130,000 letters in Philadelphia hoping to cage voters there. Philadelphia is a city with a majority African American population that votes heavily Democratic. The Republicans were attempting to cage votes by people who were likely to vote for the Democratic candidates. [10]
In the Ohio court challenge, the RNC submitted a caging list that targeted urban and African-American areas in and around Cleveland.[11]
Journalists found evidence that the Republican National Committee (RNC) attempted to use caging to suppress votes in five states in the 2004 US presidential election. For example, in New Jersey RNC officials used caging lists to challenge absentee ballots and absentee ballot requests.[12]

[edit] 2008 US Election
As noted earlier, the Republican Secretary of State in Michigan was found purging voters from voting rolls when voter ID cards were returned as undeliverable. In the court challenge, the federal judge ordered the state to reinstate the voters.[13] The judge ruled that the state's actions were in violation of the NVRA. His decision noted that there was no way to prevent qualified voters from being disfranchised as their cards may be returned as undeliverable due to postal error, clerical error, inadvertent routing within a multi-unit dwelling, and even simple misspelling or transposition of numbers in an address. [14]
In December 2007, Kansas GOP Chair Kris Kobach sent an email boasting, "[T]o date, the Kansas GOP has identified and caged more voters in the last 11 months than the previous two years!"[15]
Republicans sent out fundraising mailers to Democratic voters in five Florida counties: Duval, Hillsborough, Collier, Miami-Dade and Escambia, with 'do not forward' on the letters. The mailers included inaccurate Voter ID numbers and ostensibly confirmed with voters they were registered as Republican. The RNC declined to discuss the mailer with the St. Peterburg Times. A representative denied the mailing had anything to do with caging. "Two top Florida elections officials, both Republicans, faulted the GOP mailing, calling it "confusing" and "unfortunate" because of a potential to undermine voter confidence by making them question the accuracy of their registrations." Some officials expressed concern that the RNC would try to use a caging list derived from the mailers.[16]
In Northern California reports of voter caging emerged when letters marked 'do not forward' were sent to Democrats with fake voter ID numbers. The description of the letters matches the letters that were sent out in Florida.[17] See the caging letter that was sent out here. Many details on the letters were false; for example, the letters referred to a Voter Identification Division but RNC personnel said they had no such department. The RNC did not return calls from a news organization regarding the letters.
On October 5, 2008 the Republican Lt. Governor of Montana, John Bohlinger, accused the Montana Republican Party of vote caging to purge 6,000 voters from three counties which trend Democratic. These purges included decorated war veterans and active duty soldiers.[18]
The New York Times found in its review of state records that unlawful actions in six states led to widespread voter purges, which could have impact on the 2008 elections. Some of the actions were apparently the result of mistakes by the states' handling voter registrations and files as they tried to comply with a 2002 federal law related to running elections. While neither party was singled out, because the Democratic Party registered more new voters this year, Democratic voters were more adversely affected by such actions of state officials.[19]

 

[AllieBaba]

Florida Felons list

The machine distribution in democratic areas in ohio 2004.

The phone bank scandal

The court ordered sanction of the republican party in the 1980s

Not evidence. Give me links and convictions, dumbass.

And the 1980s was 30 years ago. If you want to go back that far, I can pull a whole lot of Democratic cheating......including incidents where dead people voted, the US military was disenfranchised (wait, that happened in THIS election) and whole counties were shut down and investigated because ACORN was committing voter fraud.

Those are real events. Your guys. The whole "if we did it, the right MUST have been doing it" boat don't float with grown ups, loser.

 

[Truthmatters]

In 1981 and 1986 the Republican National Committee (RNC) sent out letters to predominately African-American neighborhoods. When tens of thousands of them were returned undeliverable, the party successfully challenged the voters and had them deleted from voting rolls. Due to the violation of the Voting Rights Act, the RNC was taken to court. Its officials entered a consent decree which prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that targeted minorities or conducting mail campaigns to "compile voter challenge lists."

Read oh christian one

 

[Truthmatters]

2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Sentences
Allen Raymond was sentenced to five months in federal prison on February 8, 2005, for his role. A month later, Charles McGee received seven months. James Tobin refused to cooperate with investigators as his trial approached. During Tobin's trial, questions arose about the source of the money involved in funding the phone jamming and his defense.

In July, the Union Leader reported [3] that one of Tobin's attorneys told the court he was representing the defendant in his capacity as an employee of the Republican National Committee (RNC). Since the RNC had stated that Tobin was acting on his own in a rogue operation, it was asked, why would they be paying for his defense?

In August, the RNC finally confirmed that it had spent more than $722,000 for Tobin's defense by the Washington firm of Williams & Connolly. "This support is based on his assurance and our belief that Jim has not engaged in any wrongdoing," a spokesperson told the Associated Press. [4] The Union Leader reported in February 2006 that the RNC had paid $1.7 million to Williams on the day Tobin was sentenced, for a total of $2.5 million, and would neither confirm nor deny that it was still paying his legal expenses. [5]. The RNC's first financial report of 2006 indicated that it by then spent another $330,000 [6]. Later that year, Tobin's wife was hired by the NRSC as a consultant on the unsuccessful re-election campaign of Rhode Island senator Lincoln Chafee, as Northeast Strategies, a company that listed the Tobins' home as its main address. Despite her lack of any previous experience, she was paid at $300,000.[7]

On August 28, Marshall reported [8] that two Indian tribes, the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians and the Mississippi Choctaw, known clients of influential lobbyist Jack Abramoff, himself at the center of a widening scandal, had made $5,000 contributions [9] (the legal maximum) to the NHGOP the week of the election in 2002. Neither was known to have any interest in New Hampshire. Later, staffers for Judd Gregg, New Hampshire's senior senator and also a Republican, explained that they had passed along the checks without his knowledge.[10]

Also unusual was over $600,000 contributed to the Sununu campaign over the final week by the National Republican Congressional Committee, which normally focuses on races in the House and had not shown much interest in previous campaigns by Sununu. Texas congressman and former House majority leader Tom DeLay's Americans for a Republican Majority Political Action Committee (ARMPAC) also contributed $5,000.

 

[Truthmatters]

The reason the Bush admin politicized the DOJ was so they could keep the investigations of republican wrong doing supressed and may hay out of nothing where they claimed the dems did something.

 

[Truthmatters]

Allinbabble,

Your party is so corrupt it will take us years to get to the bottoom of all they did.

Your party will have to kick out all of their current leadship to get elected again after all the investigations are through.

 

[Tech_Esq]

The reason the Bush admin politicized the DOJ was so they could keep the investigations of republican wrong doing supressed and may hay out of nothing where they claimed the dems did something.

You mean they actually learned something from the Dems?

The NERVE of those rascally Republicans!

 

[sealybobo]

Florida Felons list

The machine distribution in democratic areas in ohio 2004.

The phone bank scandal

The court ordered sanction of the republican party in the 1980s

I have showed her endless amounts of proof that the GOP stole the 2000 and 2004 election.

If she wants to see all the facts on rigged voting machines, she can go to bradblog.com.


She doesn't even know what the supreme justices said when they decided Gore v Bush.

Hell, if she's like Palin, she doesn't even know what Gore v Bush is.

Let alone what the Bush doctrine was.

 

[AllieBaba]

So now even college educated people don't cut the mustard with you people? So labor sucks, college grads suck,

Who doesn't suck Allie? If blue collar sucks and new white collar sucks, who doesn't suck?

Unions suck because they've ruined the economy, eliminated production in this country, introduced and sustained criminal corruption in politics, and incidentally are run by crooks and criminals.

Our universities suck because they are filled with idiots like William Ayers who by all accounts is considered something of a god among academia because he tried to blow up the pentagon, and his wife did time for helping kill a police officer. The professors intimidate and harass anyone who does not prescribe to the liberal wacko game book, and brainwash the rest of the morons until they come out just like you, booboo, and truth matters, neither of which seem to grasp the simple concept of cause and effect, or the difference between truth and fantasy. But by golly you've got that lying rhetoric down pat and spew it out ad nauseum all day long.

But despite your misleading (and moronic) post, I have no problem wrong with "labor". It's a shame that thanks to the policies you and your buddies have crammed down the throats of the American people all our factories and development of natural resources have shut down and come to a grinding halt...forcing us to get the materials and goods we need from third world countries while our energy costs and unemployment rate continue to climb steadily.
Thanks for asking.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Allinbabble,

Your party is so corrupt it will take us years to get to the bottoom of all they did.

Your party will have to kick out all of their current leadship to get elected again after all the investigations are through.

You've gotta be what all of 19 or 20, right? Making stupid statements like that.

No historical prospective at all. Ronald Reagan was elected 6 years after Nixon resigned. Bush having a bumpy presidency is nothing compared to that.

You know all it took? ...... A Democrat in the White House.

 

[sealybobo]

You mean they actually learned something from the Dems?

The NERVE of those rascally Republicans!

They learned something from the dems?

The K Street Project and the magnitude to which the GOP politicized all aspects of our govenment is all new unchartered territory. Unprecidented. It had never been done before. At least not to the extent Delay & Bush went to. So don't act like what they did is standard operating procedure. We won't let that slide. This was the most corrupt time in our countries short political history. At least one of them. You didn't think it was a big deal, but now you and your party are irrelivent. That's because you aren't being honest about anything and everyone knows it now. You lied for 8 years.

But I'll tell you what. We learned something from the GOP. Now our president has unbelievable power and we learned from Delay how to completeely shut the Republicans out of the political process.

Republicans will lose seats in 2010, not because they did a bad job, but instead because they aren't getting any attention from the democrats. Can't bring home the bacon when you aren't even allowed to sit at the adults table.

Oh, ps. We will re-write district lines so it favors democrats. Just like Delay did.

 

[sealybobo]

Unions suck because they've ruined the economy, eliminated production in this country, introduced and sustained criminal corruption in politics, and incidentally are run by crooks and criminals.

Our universities suck because they are filled with idiots like William Ayers who by all accounts is considered something of a god among academia because he tried to blow up the pentagon, and his wife did time for helping kill a police officer. The professors intimidate and harass anyone who does not prescribe to the liberal wacko game book, and brainwash the rest of the morons until they come out just like you, booboo, and truth matters, neither of which seem to grasp the simple concept of cause and effect, or the difference between truth and fantasy. But by golly you've got that lying rhetoric down pat and spew it out ad nauseum all day long.

But despite your misleading (and moronic) post, I have no problem wrong with "labor". It's a shame that thanks to the policies you and your buddies have crammed down the throats of the American people all our factories and development of natural resources have shut down and come to a grinding halt...forcing us to get the materials and goods we need from third world countries while our energy costs and unemployment rate continue to climb steadily.
Thanks for asking.

Tell me this then. Why are companies that moved from the Union North to Texas now moving out of the country?

Seems like it wasn't just our union wages that corporations hate. It's American wages, regardless of if you are in a union or not.

So corporations left Michigan because we make $35 hr. and now they are leaving your state because you want $15 and in Mexico they can get it for $5.

So now YOU are the problem Allie. YOU SUCK!!!

 

[Tech_Esq]

I have showed her endless amounts of proof that the GOP stole the 2000 and 2004 election.

If she wants to see all the facts on rigged voting machines, she can go to bradblog.com.


She doesn't even know what the supreme justices said when they decided Gore v Bush.

Hell, if she's like Palin, she doesn't even know what Gore v Bush is.

Let alone what the Bush doctrine was.

See this is the problem that I have with the Dems. You don't realize that by de-legitimizing the electoral process and shouting BS about "stealing elections" etc, you are destabilizing this process for everyone. So, the ultimate effect is that people distrust the process and system. While you may like that in the short term, when it is your guy you will not like the result.

Just like when the Dems "Borked" Judge Bork. You didn't like it when the Repubs were screwing with Clinton's nominees. Although, I will admit that the Repubs don't seem to be able to bring themselves to get quite as far into the mud and quite as scurrilous as the Dems do in this process, but give them time and training and we could rip up the entire process until it is just one continual fist fight from end-to-end.

It seems that is what the Dems want.

 

[AllieBaba]

You've gotta be what all of 19 or 20, right? Making stupid statements like that.

No historical prospective at all. Ronald Reagan was elected 6 years after Nixon resigned. Bush having a bumpy presidency is nothing compared to that.

You know all it took? ...... A Democrat in the White House.

Damn, I wanted to rep you again and couldn't. You deserve it, though.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Tell me this then. Why are companies that moved from the Union North to Texas now moving out of the country?

Seems like it wasn't just our union wages that corporations hate. It's American wages, regardless of if you are in a union or not.

So corporations left Michigan because we make $35 hr. and now they are leaving your state because you want $15 and in Mexico they can get it for $5.

So now YOU are the problem Allie. YOU SUCK!!!

I haven't heard of that. Link?

 

[Truthmatters]

You've gotta be what all of 19 or 20, right? Making stupid statements like that.

No historical prospective at all. Ronald Reagan was elected 6 years after Nixon resigned. Bush having a bumpy presidency is nothing compared to that.

You know all it took? ...... A Democrat in the White House.

Im 51 and the investigations are about to begin.

Bush politicized the DOJ to keep the investigations down. Congress during the Bush years held three investigations during thier watch. Are you aware how rediculesly low a number that is in historical terms?

The republicans did NO oversight while they held the government. Now the investigations that SHOULD have taken place will begin.

Your team will be caught red handed and be in the wilderness for a very long time. Nixon was an amateur compared to the current republican party heads.

 

[sealybobo]

See this is the problem that I have with the Dems. You don't realize that by de-legitimizing the electoral process and shouting BS about "stealing elections" etc, you are destabilizing this process for everyone. So, the ultimate effect is that people distrust the process and system. While you may like that in the short term, when it is your guy you will not like the result.

Just like when the Dems "Borked" Judge Bork. You didn't like it when the Repubs were screwing with Clinton's nominees. Although, I will admit that the Repubs don't seem to be able to bring themselves to get quite as far into the mud and quite as scurrilous as the Dems do in this process, but give them time and training and we could rip up the entire process until it is just one continual fist fight from end-to-end.

It seems that is what the Dems want.

Boy does this sound familiar. I remember you assholes telling us that we were causing the USA to lose the war in Iraq because we were talking negatively about the situation. You said we were "emboldening" the enemy. Remember that shit?

So now discussing how you mother fuckers stole 2 god damn elections is "dangerous" to democracy? Go fuck yourselves.

The fact that you weren't outraged when they stole those last two elections is the fucking problem. Had the Dems done that, you'd be up in arms.

And because we scrame bloody fucking murder, you were not able to do it a 3rd time. We were waiting for you this time. And we had judges ready for you. One example. Some Republican **** in Colorado tried to challange some new voter registrations within 30 days of the election. No problem in 2000 and 2004.

Only problem with that is that it is GOD DAMN ILLEGAL to purge anyone from the rolls within so many days of the election.

Anyways, if you don't know it by now, go fuck yourself.

And it will never happen again, hopefully. Unfortunately when you have a brother as the governor and Katherine Harris as the Sec of State, anything is possible.

I have shared TONS of proof the GOP stole the last two elections. I don't think you give a damn because your party won. That makes you a political **** bag.

Ok, so now you can bring up how Mayor Daily of Chicago rigged Illinois for JFK. So fucking typical.

 

[AllieBaba]

Tell me this then. Why are companies that moved from the Union North to Texas now moving out of the country?

Seems like it wasn't just our union wages that corporations hate. It's American wages, regardless of if you are in a union or not.

So corporations left Michigan because we make $35 hr. and now they are leaving your state because you want $15 and in Mexico they can get it for $5.

So now YOU are the problem Allie. YOU SUCK!!!

And why are American wages so ridiculously high? Because of the unions! Because of minimum wage laws! Ridiculous "solutions" which do nothing but make the problem worse. Kinda like Obama's retarded $800 billion bail out plan which is supposed to help our economy by taking money from some place other than taxpayers (can you say...LAYOFFS AND WAGE REDUCTIONS? PROGRAM REDUCTIONS?).

Try to actually think things out to their logical end. Really, you just embarass yourself with idiotic posts like this.