Why the Republican Party is doomed

[DavidS]

The only thing the Republican Party is doing right now is attacking Obama. They attacked him over Blagoyavitch which many people condemned and they attacked him over Eric Holder and Solis. If you go on RNC.ORG, you'll see what I mean.

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The Republican Party needs to come up with some of their own ideas and NOT be the party that just attacks Obama.

They should follow John McCain and congratulate Obama and stand ready to support him and offer ideas and suggestiong that can offer different, perhaps better ways of going about bills and laws. Because if all they do in the next 4 years is try to stand in the way of Obama without offering any of their own solutions, the Republican Party will be dead. Which, judging from the way they're acting right now, isn't such a bad thing.

 

[KMAN]

The only thing the Republican Party is doing right now is attacking Obama. They attacked him over Blagoyavitch which many people condemned and they attacked him over Eric Holder and Solis. If you go on RNC.ORG, you'll see what I mean.



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The Republican Party needs to come up with some of their own ideas and NOT be the party that just attacks Obama.

They should follow John McCain and congratulate Obama and stand ready to support him and offer ideas and suggestiong that can offer different, perhaps better ways of going about bills and laws. Because if all they do in the next 4 years is try to stand in the way of Obama without offering any of their own solutions, the Republican Party will be dead. Which, judging from the way they're acting right now, isn't such a bad thing.

I agree with you about Repubs needing to come up with ideas... Although... Not coming up with ideas and attacking President Bush seemed to work for Dems...

 

[auditor0007]

Dems seem to believe that with the Dems in control, everything will be perfect. Obama will make all the right decisions, corruption will come to an end, the economy will turn around, and all that good stuff. All it will take for a huge turnaround is a huge failure on the part of the Dems. They're making all the decisions now, so if they don't fix it, it will be time to dump them.

Remember, in 1976 there was this Democrat who was promising us the world. He was going to end the corruption that had plagued the former administrations. Yea, that was Jimmy Carter. We all know how well he did.

Republicans need to get back to the basics of reduced government and strategic spending. The idea of just cutting spending doesn't work because there are many things from which spending can't be cut without changing or dismantling entire programs. So we need ideas on how to fund these programs at a lower cost.

The Democrats will have their party for the next couple of years. But I would imagine come 2012, many people will be grumbling about Washington again. It's what Americans do best, complain, complain, complain.

 

[DavidS]

I agree with you about Repubs needing to come up with ideas... Although... Not coming up with ideas and attacking President Bush seemed to work for Dems...

Actually, no it didn't. That's why they lost in 2004. When they started coming up with ideas in 2006, they won back Congress. When they REALLY started coming up with ideas, they won the White House in 2008.

 

[del]

Actually, no it didn't. That's why they lost in 2004. When they started coming up with ideas in 2006, they won back Congress. When they REALLY started coming up with ideas, they won the White House in 2008.

which ideas did they come up with in 2006? and why didn't they act on them?

 

[Truthmatters]

Now look here , we dont want the republicans coming up with any ideas.

There "ideas" are what created this big mess acrossed the entire country and in every aspect of American life.

They will be just fine wondering about aimlessly insulting anyone who doesnt agree with their completely failed ideas.

It keeps them busy and gives them pleasure.

We should just pat them on the head form time to time and say "there, there little buddy, want a pretty parade with some balloons".

They think that is what patriotism is.

We will go about the REAL patriotism which is rolling up our sleeves and helping President Obama fix things from the ground up.

They will mutter in the corner that we are all a bunch of "bleeding heart liberals" who dont understand that everything is "hopeless", it makes them feel less scared.

 

[sealybobo]

The GOP is not doomed because the American voter is really stupid. They'll see Obama fix all the mistakes the GOP created, and it will no doubt cost money, which means raising taxes, and the GOP will run on a "lower taxes" platform, and they will win.

Now what are their chances of winning in 2010? Slim.

But American voters have short memories. Just like they forgot daddy Bush sucked and voted in GW, they'll forget and vote in Jeb in 2016.

Or they'll forget that CEO's were part of the problem and they will vote in Mitt Romney because he was a CEO. What are the chances that he as a former CEO would tackle excessive CEO pay? Slim you say? Yet people will view him being a CEO as a plus when they considered John edwards being a lawyer who helps victims as a negative. Go figure.

And the GOP should never have more than 25% of the seats in Washington anyways. They only represent about 10% of the population if you only consider economics. The other 15% comes from the south where Republicans win on god, gays and guns.

 

[auditor0007]

Actually, no it didn't. That's why they lost in 2004. When they started coming up with ideas in 2006, they won back Congress. When they REALLY started coming up with ideas, they won the White House in 2008.

With the mess we are currently in, which can be blamed on both Republicans and Democrats (the evidence is overwhelming that everyone had a hand in this fiasco), Obama is doing nothing more than continuing what Bush started with his stimulus package and the bailout.

Obama led the way with supposedly new ideas. But the fact is, his major policies on the economy are pretty much in line with that of the Republicans at this point. The idea that he will raise taxes on the wealthy is a small deviation. He will eventually do that, I imagine, but the increase will be relatively small. He's not going to play Robin Hood and try to steal from the rich to give back to the poor.

There will be subtle changes, but they won't be drastic changes. You are fooling yourself if you think things will change drastically, for better or worse. We're just going to get more of the same for the most part.

 

[Truthmatters]

Bush never won an election without cheating, you underestimate the American people.

 

[sealybobo]

Now look here , we dont want the republicans coming up with any ideas.

Remember we told the GOP that the war was a quagmire for a couple years and the GOP insisted on "staying the course"?

Then once they couldn't stall any longer, all of the sudden the people who denied there was even a problem were the ones suggesting they were the ones who could solve the problem, that only days earlier they denied even existed. Following me?

Same with the economy. They denied there was even a problem until it was too late. Now they have the balls to tell us they know how to fix it?

I suppose next they'll tell us they know how to solve global warming?

 

[Truthmatters]

Remember we told the GOP that the war was a quagmire for a couple years and the GOP insisted on "staying the course"?

Then once they couldn't stall any longer, all of the sudden the people who denied there was even a problem were the ones suggesting they were the ones who could solve the problem, that only days earlier they denied even existed. Following me?

Same with the economy. They denied there was even a problem until it was too late. Now they have the balls to tell us they know how to fix it?

I suppose next they'll tell us they know how to solve global warming?

I think the fix they sugest will involve nuking the middle east.

 

[jillian]

The only thing the Republican Party is doing right now is attacking Obama. They attacked him over Blagoyavitch which many people condemned and they attacked him over Eric Holder and Solis. If you go on RNC.ORG, you'll see what I mean.

They'll figure it out. Don't get too cocky. The repubs used to be the smart, rich guys ... this new repub party was an abberation, anyway.

Pendulum's swing.

 

[Truthmatters]

When were they the smart guys? They were always rich and still are.

 

[Tech_Esq]

The only thing the Republican Party is doing right now is attacking Obama. They attacked him over Blagoyavitch which many people condemned and they attacked him over Eric Holder and Solis. If you go on RNC.ORG, you'll see what I mean.



Republican • National • Committee

The Republican Party needs to come up with some of their own ideas and NOT be the party that just attacks Obama.

They should follow John McCain and congratulate Obama and stand ready to support him and offer ideas and suggestiong that can offer different, perhaps better ways of going about bills and laws. Because if all they do in the next 4 years is try to stand in the way of Obama without offering any of their own solutions, the Republican Party will be dead. Which, judging from the way they're acting right now, isn't such a bad thing.

Your analysis fails because that is exactly all the Dems did while they were out of power and now they are back.

It's rather like negative campaigning, people always say they hate it and they dislike the person who does it, but in point of fact, it always works. This is the same thing. Repubs consistently pushed for the Dems to offer alternatives if they didn't like Repub policies. The Dems consistently resisted and were rewarded for it.

Why would you expect Repubs to deviate from a winning strategy?

 

[Tech_Esq]

When were they the smart guys? They were always rich and still are.

Come'on that's a load. There are a few rich repubs just like there are rich Dems. Two-thirds of Wall Street bankers are Dems. Bill Gates, Warren Buffett all of Hollywood. Please...cut the class warfare bullshit or save it for morons.

 

[sealybobo]

Your analysis fails because that is exactly all the Dems did while they were out of power and now they are back.

It's rather like negative campaigning, people always say they hate it and they dislike the person who does it, but in point of fact, it always works. This is the same thing. Repubs consistently pushed for the Dems to offer alternatives if they didn't like Repub policies. The Dems consistently resisted and were rewarded for it.

Why would you expect Repubs to deviate from a winning strategy?

Rove was being hailed as a genius for winning elections up until the 2006 election. But lets face it, they stole the 2000 and 2004 election, so how smart was he really?

But he was brilliant getting out the vote. He scared people with god gays and guns and got people to the polls.

I'm actually amazed at how many people showed up to vote for McCain.

In reality though, how many of them were voting for him or against Obama? That shows you how effective negative campaigning is. Republicans hated McCain, but they hated Obama even more, so they showed up in droves.

Thank God all the young people showed up.

And I think this is the saving grace for the Democratic party. All those new democrats. Bush really fucked the GOP. And the GOP went along for way too long to distance themselves from Bush in the last 2 months of his presidency.

Sorry GOP, but the electorate is getting smarter. You'll need to catch up. Try some new tricks.

Or how about this? How about you actually work in the best interest of the people who voted you into office, not just the large corporate donors who contributed to your re-election efforts?

Since when the the government put Corporate interests ahead of the people's interest?

 

[jillian]

Come'on that's a load. There are a few rich repubs just like there are rich Dems. Two-thirds of Wall Street bankers are Dems. Bill Gates, Warren Buffett all of Hollywood. Please...cut the class warfare bullshit or save it for morons.

No... repubs were generally the party of rich people. This whole "social conservative" thing, that ultimately contributed to the party's failure, was never part of the mix.

 

[AllieBaba]

Do you ever get anything right? If the republican party is the party of the rich, I'm the Queen of Latvia.

"Taxprof displays a map showing median income by state, which shows a strong relationship between above-average median income and being a blue state."
http://www.centristcoalition.com/blog/archives/002089.html

Rich people do vote Republican, but they are not the core of the party. And they vote Republican because they KNOW Republican and conservative ideas create prosperity.

"Indeed, if anything the Democrats' base seems to be among the wealthy. The same census figures showed that seven of the 10 states with the highest median incomes voted Democrat, and citizens who lived in Democrat states were less likely to live in poverty and more likely to have health insurance. And these states are getting wealthier. The five with the sharpest increase in income all voted Democrat in 2004."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329578992-103677,00.html

 

[sealybobo]

No... repubs were generally the party of rich people. This whole "social conservative" thing, that ultimately contributed to the party's failure, was never part of the mix.

ThomHartmann.com - The Robber Barons' Party

Ronald Reagan had to reassure the American people that he wasn't going to run us into debt and then turn our nation over to the multinational corporations. In his first inaugural, he had to add, "Now, so there will be no misunderstanding, it is not my intention to do away with government. It is, rather, to make it work-work with us, not over us; to stand by our side, not ride on our back."
But who was that "us" Reagan spoke of?
Clearly it wasn't recipients of what conservatives call the "socialist" Social Security or Medicaid programs. It wasn't those of us who are pleased to have the protection of unionized police and fire departments, public roads, clean air and water, safe food and drugs. It wasn't the people who had fallen on hard times as their jobs were shipped overseas and they found themselves in unemployment lines or needing government assistance to get back on their feet.
Reagan's "us" - as history clearly shows - was the feudal/fascist corporate elite. As was George H. W. Bush's "us." And many of Bill Clinton's DLC's "us." And, so ostentatiously today, George W. Bush's "us."
As we view today's ostentatious celebration of the corporate takeover of our government, We the People are faced with an historic challenge. As Franklin Roosevelt said in 1936, as the result of "new uses of corporations" a "new royalty" has emerged in America.
"It was natural and perhaps human," Roosevelt said, "that the privileged princes of these new economic dynasties, thirsting for power, reached out for control over Government itself. ... And as a result the average man once more confronts the problem that faced the Minute Man."

 

[AllieBaba]

You think belonging to unions makes police officers more efficient and keeps us safer?

Do you live in an alternate universe?