Why should an independent vote Trump?

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    Is there any real reason I should vote trump? According to trump he is not doing well. He made fun of Obama for never hitting an annual gdp greater than 3%, but now trump is in the same boat. He said it was bad when Obama ruled by executive order, but now he does the same thing. He said Obamas low unemployment rate wasn't really low because it's all about the labor force participation rate which has remained low under trump. Republicans told me huge deficits were bad, and now trump has them over a trillion dollars. The country is as divided as ever so clearly he isn't bringing us together. On top of all this he is the least presidential president I have ever seen. Has he done anything an independent would vote for?
     
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    That is easy! By keeping the border under control, wages have started rising as cheap labor has been soaked up. There are actually MORE jobs than unemployed people in the country.

    It is NOT about totally stopping immigration, it is about balance so as your paycheck can rise. If wage pressures become to much, you let more in, simple as that. Notice-------->the largest wage increases have been in the lower income brackets, and that is a good thing!
     
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    /——/ You’re not voting for Trump no matter what he accomplishes. You will go with whatever socialist retread the DNC picks. Stop kidding us with your fake Independent label.
     
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    I've seen no evidence that is happening. Please share some evidence. What I have seen gives most the credit for the small wage increases to all the min wage increases going on.
     
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    Sounds like you have no reason. Not helpful.
     
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    Jobs, wages and border security have all done very well.



    That Trump has not reversed all the negative underlying trends, is a valid complaint, if his opponent has a real plan to do so.


    That is very unlikely. When we see what the alternative is, we can look to see if your issues will be better under the alternative or under Trump, or no difference.
     
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    /——/ Oh I have plenty of reasons, but trying to convince you to vote for him is a total waste of time. It will never happen.
     
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    Agreed.
    For a guy who won by such a slim margin, he doesn't seem to be concerned with the group most needed to reproduce his victory.

    So far, polling shows that independents are not with him on impeachment. I find it difficult to believe those independents would return to him especially if this trial is a Repub shitshow.
     
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    How do you mean? According to trump jobs aren't doing that well because the labor force participation rate is still low. Real unemployment rate is 20% right? Most the moves in wages are from min wage increases. And aren't they about the same as inflation? Is the border more secure? How is that making my life better? I haven't noticed a change.

    Actually trump reversed the deficits that were trending down and made them increase drastically.
     
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    Well according to republicans from 3 years ago including trump he isn't doing well for all the reasons I've noted. Seems the bar has been way lowered.
     
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