Why is the Gov't Telling Americans How We Can (and Can't) Build Our Homes?

[Nosmo King]

You don't seem to understand the difference of government regulations that benefit society, and regulations which only serve to enrich political donors or even retard the competetiveness of small business in favor of large corporate donors.


Residential Building Codes have a long history going back 4000 years. The “Code of Hammurabi”, circa 1780 BC, contains what are generally considered the first written laws concerning building construction.

They provide the ability of people to have houses very close together while reducing the risk of citywide fires like those in Detroit and Houston.

However bullshit codes like those that force you to have certain capacity toilets, or that prohibit you from building at all because of some bird or a puddle should be a problem for any cognizant person.

Perhaps one man's bullshit is another man's lifeline. Consider the drought in the west. Water conservation is part of the solution. A toilet using 4 gallons per flush is waste defined.

Bulldozing wetlands always results in further degradation to the environment. That is a proven fact. Storm water management is crucial. But prying that information into partisan skulls is the most difficult part. Some folks believe that their rights extend to the right to wreck the surroundings for everyone else.

 

[Siete]

troll posts (another) absurd trolling thread.

and YOU show up.

imagine that.

 

[Rotagilla]

troll posts (another) absurd trolling thread.

and YOU show up.

imagine that.

You sure worry a lot about me and what I'm doing.

 

[Siete]

You don't seem to understand the difference of government regulations that benefit society, and regulations which only serve to enrich political donors or even retard the competetiveness of small business in favor of large corporate donors.


Residential Building Codes have a long history going back 4000 years. The “Code of Hammurabi”, circa 1780 BC, contains what are generally considered the first written laws concerning building construction.

They provide the ability of people to have houses very close together while reducing the risk of citywide fires like those in Detroit and Houston.

However bullshit codes like those that force you to have certain capacity toilets, or that prohibit you from building at all because of some bird or a puddle should be a problem for any cognizant person.

Perhaps one man's bullshit is another man's lifeline. Consider the drought in the west. Water conservation is part of the solution. A toilet using 4 gallons per flush is waste defined.

Bulldozing wetlands always results in further degradation to the environment. That is a proven fact. Storm water management is crucial. But prying that information into partisan skulls is the most difficult part. Some folks believe that their rights extend to the right to wreck the surroundings for everyone else.

exactly why I donate to environmental groups that buy millions of acres saving wetlands ..

 

[Siete]

troll posts (another) absurd trolling thread.

and YOU show up.

imagine that.

You sure worry a lot about me and what I'm doing.

I could care less if you're here trolling, just quit bitching about trolling.

 

[kaz]

I had my dream home built about ten years ago. If there weren't standards, the builders could have had a field day with providing me with substandard work but charging me premium prices.

Regulations are fine for they protect the consumer from shoddy work. Codes are there to check that the work meets specifications that are continually being updated for our safety.

And I am thankful for those codes.

Thank God you have loving, caring government to protect you from those evil contractors. It's not like you could have a contract with them that holds them accountable.

 

[Rotagilla]

troll posts (another) absurd trolling thread.

and YOU show up.

imagine that.

You sure worry a lot about me and what I'm doing.

I could care less

That's obviously not true.

if you're here trolling,

I'm not.

just quit bitching about trolling.

I wasn't.

 

[kaz]

Everyone knows that there are too many regulations, right?

Well, WHY is the gov't at all levels telling Americans how and where we can build our homes? There are requirements when it comes to the structure, and the distance between floor joists, and the wiring, and electrical outlets, and plumbing, and toilets, and drywall, and concrete/cement mixtures, and SO many other things.

Why shouldn't someone be able to build a home wherever he pleases however he pleases?

So, should all regulations regarding the construction of private homes be eliminated?

Please explain your vote if you choose to vote in the poll.

There are liberals, and there are anarchists. We can't have contracts enforcible in civil court or criminal courts for outright fraud, government has to tell them how many times to turn each screw. It's that or nothing, no regulations at all. Yeah, there are socialists and anarchists, that's always such a persuasive argument, I see why you keep going to that well.

 

[Katzndogz]

There are countries with no building regulations. They have catastrophic numbers of deaths for something that places with building regulations shrug off.

 

[Siete]

troll posts (another) absurd trolling thread.

and YOU show up.

imagine that.

You sure worry a lot about me and what I'm doing.

I could care less

That's obviously not true.

if you're here trolling,

I'm not.

just quit bitching about trolling.

I wasn't.

your first post contributed to the topic HOW ?

Troll !

 

[Rotagilla]

troll posts (another) absurd trolling thread.

and YOU show up.

imagine that.

You sure worry a lot about me and what I'm doing.

I could care less

That's obviously not true.

if you're here trolling,

I'm not.

just quit bitching about trolling.

I wasn't.

your first post contributed to the topic HOW ?

I pointed out a fact.

 

[Siete]

There are countries with no building regulations. They have catastrophic numbers of deaths for something that places with building regulations shrug off.

we can't have a city with hurricane regulations like Miami, or a city with earthquake regulations like LA... all those buildings falling down and being blown across the state is good for people..

es

 

[Camp]

Can anyone imagine what the premiums for homeowners insurance would look like for houses built without certification that they were inspected and met with safety codes?

 

[Pete7469]

You don't seem to understand the difference of government regulations that benefit society, and regulations which only serve to enrich political donors or even retard the competetiveness of small business in favor of large corporate donors.


Residential Building Codes have a long history going back 4000 years. The “Code of Hammurabi”, circa 1780 BC, contains what are generally considered the first written laws concerning building construction.

They provide the ability of people to have houses very close together while reducing the risk of citywide fires like those in Detroit and Houston.

However bullshit codes like those that force you to have certain capacity toilets, or that prohibit you from building at all because of some bird or a puddle should be a problem for any cognizant person.

Perhaps one man's bullshit is another man's lifeline. Consider the drought in the west. Water conservation is part of the solution. A toilet using 4 gallons per flush is waste defined.

Bulldozing wetlands always results in further degradation to the environment. That is a proven fact. Storm water management is crucial. But prying that information into partisan skulls is the most difficult part. Some folks believe that their rights extend to the right to wreck the surroundings for everyone else.

That's your lifeline I suppose, but in drought stricken areas water consumption is metered. There are also ways to reduce the capacity of your toilet to reduce your bills, and furthermore there are things called wasterwater treatment plants that return water to the system. I'm also not talking about "bulldozing wetalnds". I'm talking about cases where some fascist regulator literally see's a puddle, and declares your land a wetland and you have to fight for years and at great expense to use your own land.

 

[Nosmo King]

Can anyone imagine what the premiums for homeowners insurance would look like for houses built without certification that they were inspected and met with safety codes?

And there it is! The best defense of building codes!

 

[Nosmo King]

You don't seem to understand the difference of government regulations that benefit society, and regulations which only serve to enrich political donors or even retard the competetiveness of small business in favor of large corporate donors.


Residential Building Codes have a long history going back 4000 years. The “Code of Hammurabi”, circa 1780 BC, contains what are generally considered the first written laws concerning building construction.

They provide the ability of people to have houses very close together while reducing the risk of citywide fires like those in Detroit and Houston.

However bullshit codes like those that force you to have certain capacity toilets, or that prohibit you from building at all because of some bird or a puddle should be a problem for any cognizant person.

Perhaps one man's bullshit is another man's lifeline. Consider the drought in the west. Water conservation is part of the solution. A toilet using 4 gallons per flush is waste defined.

Bulldozing wetlands always results in further degradation to the environment. That is a proven fact. Storm water management is crucial. But prying that information into partisan skulls is the most difficult part. Some folks believe that their rights extend to the right to wreck the surroundings for everyone else.

That's your lifeline I suppose, but in drought stricken areas water consumption is metered. There are also ways to reduce the capacity of your toilet to reduce your bills, and furthermore there are things called wasterwater treatment plants that return water to the system. I'm also not talking about "bulldozing wetalnds". I'm talking about cases where some fascist regulator literally see's a puddle, and declares your land a wetland and you have to fight for years and at great expense to use your own land.

Could you elaborate? What criteria are regulators using when wetland areas are identified and defined?

Do you believe that it can be as arbitrary as you describe?

 

[Siete]

and YOU show up.

imagine that.

You sure worry a lot about me and what I'm doing.

I could care less

That's obviously not true.

if you're here trolling,

I'm not.

just quit bitching about trolling.

I wasn't.

your first post contributed to the topic HOW ?

I pointed out a fact.

point at that.

 

[Mustang]

Everyone knows that there are too many regulations, right?

Well, WHY is the gov't at all levels telling Americans how and where we can build our homes? There are requirements when it comes to the structure, and the distance between floor joists, and the wiring, and electrical outlets, and plumbing, and toilets, and drywall, and concrete/cement mixtures, and SO many other things.

Why shouldn't someone be able to build a home wherever he pleases however he pleases?

So, should all regulations regarding the construction of private homes be eliminated?

Please explain your vote if you choose to vote in the poll.

There are liberals, and there are anarchists. We can't have contracts enforcible in civil court or criminal courts for outright fraud, government has to tell them how many times to turn each screw. It's that or nothing, no regulations at all. Yeah, there are socialists and anarchists, that's always such a persuasive argument, I see why you keep going to that well.

Just keepin' it real.

 

[Camp]

Can anyone imagine what the premiums for homeowners insurance would look like for houses built without certification that they were inspected and met with safety codes?

And there it is! The best defense of building codes!

That and perhaps the family that burns up with the house that had the shoddy wiring three or four years after they bought it.

 

[Pete7469]

You don't seem to understand the difference of government regulations that benefit society, and regulations which only serve to enrich political donors or even retard the competetiveness of small business in favor of large corporate donors.


Residential Building Codes have a long history going back 4000 years. The “Code of Hammurabi”, circa 1780 BC, contains what are generally considered the first written laws concerning building construction.

They provide the ability of people to have houses very close together while reducing the risk of citywide fires like those in Detroit and Houston.

However bullshit codes like those that force you to have certain capacity toilets, or that prohibit you from building at all because of some bird or a puddle should be a problem for any cognizant person.

Perhaps one man's bullshit is another man's lifeline. Consider the drought in the west. Water conservation is part of the solution. A toilet using 4 gallons per flush is waste defined.

Bulldozing wetlands always results in further degradation to the environment. That is a proven fact. Storm water management is crucial. But prying that information into partisan skulls is the most difficult part. Some folks believe that their rights extend to the right to wreck the surroundings for everyone else.

That's your lifeline I suppose, but in drought stricken areas water consumption is metered. There are also ways to reduce the capacity of your toilet to reduce your bills, and furthermore there are things called wasterwater treatment plants that return water to the system. I'm also not talking about "bulldozing wetalnds". I'm talking about cases where some fascist regulator literally see's a puddle, and declares your land a wetland and you have to fight for years and at great expense to use your own land.

Could you elaborate? What criteria are regulators using when wetland areas are identified and defined?

Do you believe that it can be as arbitrary as you describe?

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