Why Is The GOP Senate So Afraid To Call Witnesses??

[jc456]

In the case of Nixon...there was an actual crime...followed by an actual cover up of the crime! The Supreme Court ruled that Nixon couldn't hold back any material related to those criminal acts! That is totally different from what is taking place now, Care! You liberals want to subpoena Trump Administration Staff members in the hopes of finding a crime to impeach Trump on when you haven't produced any evidence whatsoever that a crime has taken place!

HOGWASH!!!

here are just some of the alleged crimes, for the second reposting

Laws broken, abuses of power




Campaign finance laws on foreign gvt help.

Bribery/extortion, govt corruption.... soliciting help from Velensky, to make an announcement on CNN that the Ukraine was opening an investigation in to the Biden's, in order for the Ukraine to get their congressionally passed military aid, and a coveted white house meeting.... quid pro quo.

The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 - holding back the military aid passed by congress was illegal

Hiding the IG urgent designated whistleblower complaint from congress was illegal.

Refusing to turn over any subpoena documents, breaks the law

Refusing to allow admin witnesses to testify, on this made up "absolute immunity claim" is illegal.

Both, obstruction of congress.

Harassing the whistleblower, illegal

Sending Giuliani and thugs, to the Ukraine is also problematic


All above need witnesses and evidence

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no one is looking for more crimes, there are enough alleged crimes already

they want to bring first hand witnesses forward who are directly involved with the president's actions in these specific Trump Articles of Impeachment... no one is fishing for other crimes

Trump's whining claims, and Republican regurgitation of them, is that there have been no first hand witnesses, it's all conjecture, a 'heard or was told' thing,

but that don't fly!

Because Trump has prevented first hand witnesses from even showing up, some stupid, and recently rejected by the courts, illegal thing he is calling Absolute Immunity, not even executive privilege...

So, now is the time to call the first hand witnesses and subpoenaed documentary evidence, that Trump has been holding back, that he's claimed, the other side needs....


THIS IS A COVER-UP, above and beyond Nixon's cover up!.... is what is going on here... wish so much, that you could see it or admit you see it, but you are OK with it....?

hahahaahahahahahahaha, no crime in the articles of the supposed impeachment thingy. what is it? you got nothing jack.

there were not Criminal Statutes allegedly broken listed because the House did not have special prosecutors investigating, like COX, JAWORSKY, STARR in other impeachment cases... a DOJ prosecutor can state, after investigation, alleged criminal offenses and with a criminal statute associated.

Congress critters can't. IF a president is impeached from office, after he leaves, prosecutors will open their own investigations, in this case of not having Special Prosecutors, ahead of time, is my understanding of it....

they had Mueller as i recall, you've lost your nuts.

 

[Care4all]

clinton was not formally charged with perjury under criminal statute, he was told he would be, the day he left office by the Starr prosecutors, so the day before he left office, he reached a plea deal with the Starr prosecutor handling the charges to be... if memory serves from reading up on it a couple of months ago...

 

[jc456]

clinton was not formally charged with perjury under criminal statute, he was told he would be, the day he left office by the Starr prosecutors, so the day before he left office, he reached a plea deal with the Starr prosecutor handling the charges to be... if memory serves from reading up on it a couple of months ago...

and, he admitted his guilt.

 

[The Purge]

If we play by the party of INFANTICIDES rules, We get to call this jerk and his son for FULL INTERROGATION!

Have your own impeachment t trial to do it.... Joe can still be impeached I think, and voted to not allow him to ever serve again... can't run for president....

Or get the DOJ to investigate and charge him with a crime..... surely Trump can have Barr make up something...

Why make up the truth that is right before your eyes. For the life of me I don't understand what is taking so long with the Biden investigation, unless it is like Mueller ...take almost 3 years and over $35 million in salaries to prove nothing, OR as I suspect all this crap will hit the fan AFTER the party of INFANTICIDE finally KNOWS which clown will be their nominee and drop indictments on them just a week prior to the DNC convention to really screw up the CommieRAT party....guess we will have to wait to find out!

its ILLEGAL to use a government office for political purposes, and holding off, to do what you said closer to an election, BREAKS THE LAW

ya lawless Trump minion!

Pelosi has held the articles of impeachment FOR OVER 30 DAYS....and you were saying?

 

[jc456]

If we play by the party of INFANTICIDES rules, We get to call this jerk and his son for FULL INTERROGATION!

Have your own impeachment t trial to do it.... Joe can still be impeached I think, and voted to not allow him to ever serve again... can't run for president....

Or get the DOJ to investigate and charge him with a crime..... surely Trump can have Barr make up something...

Why make up the truth that is right before your eyes. For the life of me I don't understand what is taking so long with the Biden investigation, unless it is like Mueller ...take almost 3 years and over $35 million in salaries to prove nothing, OR as I suspect all this crap will hit the fan AFTER the party of INFANTICIDE finally KNOWS which clown will be their nominee and drop indictments on them just a week prior to the DNC convention to really screw up the CommieRAT party....guess we will have to wait to find out!

its ILLEGAL to use a government office for political purposes, and holding off, to do what you said closer to an election, BREAKS THE LAW

ya lawless Trump minion!

Pelosi has held the articles of impeachment FOR OVER 30 DAYS....and you were saying?

and will never send them to the senate, evah!!!!! and we' will find that out tomorrow.

 

[Care4all]

In the case of Nixon...there was an actual crime...followed by an actual cover up of the crime! The Supreme Court ruled that Nixon couldn't hold back any material related to those criminal acts! That is totally different from what is taking place now, Care! You liberals want to subpoena Trump Administration Staff members in the hopes of finding a crime to impeach Trump on when you haven't produced any evidence whatsoever that a crime has taken place!

HOGWASH!!!

here are just some of the alleged crimes, for the second reposting

Laws broken, abuses of power




Campaign finance laws on foreign gvt help.

Bribery/extortion, govt corruption.... soliciting help from Velensky, to make an announcement on CNN that the Ukraine was opening an investigation in to the Biden's, in order for the Ukraine to get their congressionally passed military aid, and a coveted white house meeting.... quid pro quo.

The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 - holding back the military aid passed by congress was illegal

Hiding the IG urgent designated whistleblower complaint from congress was illegal.

Refusing to turn over any subpoena documents, breaks the law

Refusing to allow admin witnesses to testify, on this made up "absolute immunity claim" is illegal.

Both, obstruction of congress.

Harassing the whistleblower, illegal

Sending Giuliani and thugs, to the Ukraine is also problematic


All above need witnesses and evidence

----------------------

no one is looking for more crimes, there are enough alleged crimes already

they want to bring first hand witnesses forward who are directly involved with the president's actions in these specific Trump Articles of Impeachment... no one is fishing for other crimes

Trump's whining claims, and Republican regurgitation of them, is that there have been no first hand witnesses, it's all conjecture, a 'heard or was told' thing,

but that don't fly!

Because Trump has prevented first hand witnesses from even showing up, some stupid, and recently rejected by the courts, illegal thing he is calling Absolute Immunity, not even executive privilege...

So, now is the time to call the first hand witnesses and subpoenaed documentary evidence, that Trump has been holding back, that he's claimed, the other side needs....


THIS IS A COVER-UP, above and beyond Nixon's cover up!.... is what is going on here... wish so much, that you could see it or admit you see it, but you are OK with it....?

hahahaahahahahahahaha, no crime in the articles of the supposed impeachment thingy. what is it? you got nothing jack.

there were not Criminal Statutes allegedly broken listed because the House did not have special prosecutors investigating, like COX, JAWORSKY, STARR in other impeachment cases... a DOJ prosecutor can state, after investigation, alleged criminal offenses and with a criminal statute associated.

Congress critters can't. IF a president is impeached from office, after he leaves, prosecutors will open their own investigations, in this case of not having Special Prosecutors, ahead of time, is my understanding of it....

they had Mueller as i recall, you've lost your nuts.

this impeachment, is about the Ukraine

the Mueller Investigation on the obstruction, congress has been stalled by Trump's actions in the courts, preventing Don McGhan, a first hand witness, from testifying... for 9 or 10 montrhs so far.... all rulings up to the Circuit court of Appeals, have ruled in Congress's favor, and now trump is appealing it, and asking the SC to rule.... stall tactics by trump.. delayed justice is denied justice....

So the Mueller special Counsel stuff, is still on the table, only stalled because of Trump's tactics of tying the case, up in court.

 

[The Purge]

If we play by the party of INFANTICIDES rules, We get to call this jerk and his son for FULL INTERROGATION!

Have your own impeachment t trial to do it.... Joe can still be impeached I think, and voted to not allow him to ever serve again... can't run for president....

Or get the DOJ to investigate and charge him with a crime..... surely Trump can have Barr make up something...

Why make up the truth that is right before your eyes. For the life of me I don't understand what is taking so long with the Biden investigation, unless it is like Mueller ...take almost 3 years and over $35 million in salaries to prove nothing, OR as I suspect all this crap will hit the fan AFTER the party of INFANTICIDE finally KNOWS which clown will be their nominee and drop indictments on them just a week prior to the DNC convention to really screw up the CommieRAT party....guess we will have to wait to find out!

the DOJ is not even investigating them Purge... that MEANS there is not even a probable cause to investigate.... Giuliani and the two thugs and other Russian Ukrainian criminals are doing the investigation...

you all have been played like a violin....

he knows his supporters well....

Why do you LIE, or is Cornym lying....He should know. You have wishful thinking...known as a lir!

Cornyn makes waves with tweet about Justice investigating Biden

Oct 4, 2019 · wrote in the tweet that “ the Trump Justice Department is investigating foreign government influence, VP Biden conflicts of interest,

 

[Care4all]

clinton was not formally charged with perjury under criminal statute, he was told he would be, the day he left office by the Starr prosecutors, so the day before he left office, he reached a plea deal with the Starr prosecutor handling the charges to be... if memory serves from reading up on it a couple of months ago...

and, he admitted his guilt.

yep! on ALL plea deals, the defendant has to admit to their guilt!!

 

[hadit]

Nope not as long as their testimony is not blocked or distorted.

Agree, plus the prosecutors should also have the same time to question them before testifying, on witnesses that have not previously testified....

Though I am not certain it works that way in a real trial.... usually the defense does not get to question the prosecutor's witnesses, until the trial, they can cross examine them there, on the stand, same with defense witnesses, prosecutors cross examine them in the trial.

The questioning in an impeachment is supposed to be done by the House...the Senate then takes what's been shown by the House and rules on it. It's akin to a jury deliberation in an actual trial. You don't get to send additional witnesses into a jury room to affect the ruling...they can ask for testimony to be read back to them but the questioning part is over. The jury...which is the Senate in this case...is there to do one thing and one thing alone...rule on the evidence or lack thereof...that's been presented by the House!

This Senate is only there to cover for Trump.

That's the Republicans job in this effort. To defend their President, and they will. Just like the D's defended the sad excuses for President that served under their label

No their job is to serve their country and uphold the law.

Well it certainly is a shame about all those democrats that we knew long before impeachment started would vote to convict, no matter what.

 

[Wapasha]

In the case of Nixon...there was an actual crime...followed by an actual cover up of the crime! The Supreme Court ruled that Nixon couldn't hold back any material related to those criminal acts! That is totally different from what is taking place now, Care! You liberals want to subpoena Trump Administration Staff members in the hopes of finding a crime to impeach Trump on when you haven't produced any evidence whatsoever that a crime has taken place!

They are impeaching Trump for what they think Trump's motivations were, when he asked Zenelsky if he could "look into" the circumstances surrounding Biden's braggadocios public comments where he essentially blackmailed Ukraine into firing Shokin.

The House Democrats have never proven what Trump's inner thoughts and motivations were. They have only speculated on what they think , and they think Trump was motivated to look into the matter, simply because he thought it might dig up dirt to tarnish Biden's presidential primary campaign with.

A person is not guilty simply because his accusers think they know the inner thoughts and intentions of that person. In reality, there is no way Trump will ever be able to convince his accusers that he is innocent of their presumptions of his guilt.

 

[jc456]

In the case of Nixon...there was an actual crime...followed by an actual cover up of the crime! The Supreme Court ruled that Nixon couldn't hold back any material related to those criminal acts! That is totally different from what is taking place now, Care! You liberals want to subpoena Trump Administration Staff members in the hopes of finding a crime to impeach Trump on when you haven't produced any evidence whatsoever that a crime has taken place!

HOGWASH!!!

here are just some of the alleged crimes, for the second reposting

Laws broken, abuses of power




Campaign finance laws on foreign gvt help.

Bribery/extortion, govt corruption.... soliciting help from Velensky, to make an announcement on CNN that the Ukraine was opening an investigation in to the Biden's, in order for the Ukraine to get their congressionally passed military aid, and a coveted white house meeting.... quid pro quo.

The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 - holding back the military aid passed by congress was illegal

Hiding the IG urgent designated whistleblower complaint from congress was illegal.

Refusing to turn over any subpoena documents, breaks the law

Refusing to allow admin witnesses to testify, on this made up "absolute immunity claim" is illegal.

Both, obstruction of congress.

Harassing the whistleblower, illegal

Sending Giuliani and thugs, to the Ukraine is also problematic


All above need witnesses and evidence

----------------------

no one is looking for more crimes, there are enough alleged crimes already

they want to bring first hand witnesses forward who are directly involved with the president's actions in these specific Trump Articles of Impeachment... no one is fishing for other crimes

Trump's whining claims, and Republican regurgitation of them, is that there have been no first hand witnesses, it's all conjecture, a 'heard or was told' thing,

but that don't fly!

Because Trump has prevented first hand witnesses from even showing up, some stupid, and recently rejected by the courts, illegal thing he is calling Absolute Immunity, not even executive privilege...

So, now is the time to call the first hand witnesses and subpoenaed documentary evidence, that Trump has been holding back, that he's claimed, the other side needs....


THIS IS A COVER-UP, above and beyond Nixon's cover up!.... is what is going on here... wish so much, that you could see it or admit you see it, but you are OK with it....?

hahahaahahahahahahaha, no crime in the articles of the supposed impeachment thingy. what is it? you got nothing jack.

there were not Criminal Statutes allegedly broken listed because the House did not have special prosecutors investigating, like COX, JAWORSKY, STARR in other impeachment cases... a DOJ prosecutor can state, after investigation, alleged criminal offenses and with a criminal statute associated.

Congress critters can't. IF a president is impeached from office, after he leaves, prosecutors will open their own investigations, in this case of not having Special Prosecutors, ahead of time, is my understanding of it....

they had Mueller as i recall, you've lost your nuts.

this impeachment, is about the Ukraine

the Mueller Investigation on the obstruction, congress has been stalled by Trump's actions in the courts, preventing Don McGhan, a first hand witness, from testifying... for 9 or 10 montrhs so far.... all rulings up to the Circuit court of Appeals, have ruled in Congress's favor, and now trump is appealing it, and asking the SC to rule.... stall tactics by trump.. delayed justice is denied justice....

So the Mueller special Counsel stuff, is still on the table, only stalled because of Trump's tactics of tying the case, up in court.

Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha. And there’s nothing there !

 

[jc456]

In the case of Nixon...there was an actual crime...followed by an actual cover up of the crime! The Supreme Court ruled that Nixon couldn't hold back any material related to those criminal acts! That is totally different from what is taking place now, Care! You liberals want to subpoena Trump Administration Staff members in the hopes of finding a crime to impeach Trump on when you haven't produced any evidence whatsoever that a crime has taken place!

They are impeaching Trump for what they think Trump's motivations were, when he asked Zenelsky if he could "look into" the circumstances surrounding Biden's braggadocios public comments where he essentially blackmailed Ukraine into firing Shokin.

The House Democrats have never proven what Trump's inner thoughts and motivations were. They have only speculated on what they think , and they think Trump was motivated to look into the matter, simply because he thought it might dig up dirt to tarnish Biden's presidential primary campaign with.

A person is not guilty simply because his accusers think they know the inner thoughts and intentions of that person. In reality, there is no way Trump will ever be able to convince his accusers that he is innocent of their presumptions of his guilt.

They drank some liquor did lines of coke and puked all over themselves

 

[jc456]

clinton was not formally charged with perjury under criminal statute, he was told he would be, the day he left office by the Starr prosecutors, so the day before he left office, he reached a plea deal with the Starr prosecutor handling the charges to be... if memory serves from reading up on it a couple of months ago...

and, he admitted his guilt.

yep! on ALL plea deals, the defendant has to admit to their guilt!!

Yep

 

[Oldstyle]

Holder and the Obama Administration only claimed Executive Privilege when it became apparent that people in the Obama Administration knew about Fast & Furious long before they had claimed. THAT was when Holder refused to answer any more questions.

nope!

the republican lead investigations ended up proving NEITHER Obama or Holder knew about Fast and Furious, until afterwards.

AND a court SUIT, MADE HOLDER turn over all the executive privileged document he previously held back....

Republicans in Congress GOT everything! Another precedent imo, of the Court's ruling, we the people, through Congress.. our only representation in our govt and with their Congressional oversight power, have a RIGHT TO KNOW what's going on in the govt we pay for, over and above, executive privilege!

I wonder sometimes Care if you're just not aware or if you're simply such a partisan that you won't allow yourself to see the things that the Obama Administration was doing!

Holder CLAIMED to have only known about Fast & Furious for only "a few weeks" when testifying to Congressional investigators in May of 2011 only to change that timeline when documentation was revealed that showed he was briefed on Fast & Furious in July of 2010! It was at that point that Obama invoked Executive Privilege because it was at that point that questions were being asked about when HE and Eric Holder were made aware of the gunrunning program! To be quite blunt...Holder lied through his teeth while under oath.