Why is it okay to kill unborn children but wrong to kill convicted murderers?

[Mr Natural]

Instead of bellyaching on a message board 24/7 why don’t you people do something useful and work to get the laws changed?

 

[Thinker101]

Instead of bellyaching on a message board 24/7 why don’t you people do something useful and work to get the laws changed?

Sure, all we need to do is get past the obstruction from Democrats...dumbass.

 

[kyzr]

When RBG bites the dust and Amy Coney Barrett gets on the USSC we might see some progress toward the pro-life side.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

Correct.

It is a settled, accepted fact of Constitutional law – beyond dispute – that a fetus/embryo is not a ‘baby’ and abortion is not ‘murder’:

‘Commenting on the contingent property interests of the unborn that are generally represented by guardians ad litem, the Court noted: "Perfection of the interests involved, again, has generally been contingent upon live birth. In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." Id., at 162. Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.’

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

And yet in multiple States if an assailant kills a fetus the charge is murder..... can not have it both ways, either they are a person or they are not.

Not a single one of those state statutes represent a fetus as a , "person" as you claim.
PLEASE contact your state representative if you would like to address the idea of changing the law, in your state.

Oh, and stop acting like an idiot.

You're the only idiot. You can't be convicted of murder of anything OTHER than a person so by default if an assailant can be convicted of murder for the death of an unborn "fetus" as you lefties like to refer to them as, then they are by definition a person.

 

[Mr Natural]

Sure, all we need to do is get past the obstruction from Democrats...dumbass.

Good excuse!

Asshole.

 

[Thinker101]

Sure, all we need to do is get past the obstruction from Democrats...dumbass.

Good excuse!

Asshole.

Thank you...dumbass.

 

[danielpalos]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

prevention is better; only the right wing has a problem with prevention.

 

[ptbw forever]

I think the worst is why arm crazies who go into schools and shoot children?

I think that's such an awful thing to do.

Right wing priorities are so screwed up.

I support putting such people in the electric chair and frying them with no remorse.

How about you?

 

[MAGAman]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

prevention is better; only the right wing has a problem with prevention.

Preventing criminals from committing new crimes is what leftists have a problem with.

 

[MAGAman]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who said all welfare babies should be abandoned?

 

[Mr Natural]

I’m Curious:

Do you people support abortion for pregnant illegals?

 

[deanrd]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

I think a better question is how come Republicans like to arm school shooters.
Toddlers are not target practice. I don’t care what republican policies are.

 

[MAGAman]

Curious:

Do you people support abortion for pregnant illegals?

I never support abortion. But occasionally abortion rights.

Only for same reasons citizens should have a right to abortion should illegals be granted same right.

Rape and self defense.

It's all about human rights.

 

[Thinker101]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

I think a better question is how come Republicans like to arm school shooters.
Toddlers are not target practice. I don’t care what republican policies are.

Terrific, be sure to let us know when you start a thread on that.

 

[MAGAman]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

I think a better question is how come Republicans like to arm school shooters.
Toddlers are not target practice. I don’t care what republican policies are.

That's a really unhinged piece of trolling

Was arming the gangbang murderers in Chicago, NY and the other Leftist Utopias?

 

[Lewdog]

This must be a new Russian speaking point for the upcoming election. Second identical thread in a matter of days, despite the fact the Death Penalty not really being an issue the last election.

 

[Thinker101]

This must be a new Russian speaking point for the upcoming election. Second identical thread in a matter of days, despite the fact the Death Penalty not really being an issue the last election.

No kidding, death penalty for inmates, or death penalty for unborn children?

 

[Lewdog]

This must be a new Russian speaking point for the upcoming election. Second identical thread in a matter of days, despite the fact the Death Penalty not really being an issue the last election.

No kidding, death penalty for inmates, or death penalty for unborn children?

No kidding the two aren't the same, and the reason to abolish the death penalty is because of many more reasons than just to let them live.

 

[sealybobo]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

I think on a case by case basis us liberals aren’t all that apposed to the death penalty. You guys want to push for bringing back the death penalty in certain cases I wouldn’t be against you. The guy who killed the parents and kidnapped the minor, kill him. Jeffrey dahmer. The white guy who shot up the black church.

I would even execute the guy who impregnated the girl in a coma. But society just doesn’t agree with us.

And don’t blame just liberals. Even Christians are against the death penalty.

Poor people who can’t afford to feed or insure themselves shouldn’t have those babies. I’m just glad they don’t have welfare babies.

And I think any woman should be able to decide if the life inside her is precious or not.

If it’s retarded are you going to pay for the lifetime care he or she is going to need?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

Correct.

It is a settled, accepted fact of Constitutional law – beyond dispute – that a fetus/embryo is not a ‘baby’ and abortion is not ‘murder’:

‘Commenting on the contingent property interests of the unborn that are generally represented by guardians ad litem, the Court noted: "Perfection of the interests involved, again, has generally been contingent upon live birth. In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." Id., at 162. Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.’

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

And yet in multiple States if an assailant kills a fetus the charge is murder..... can not have it both ways, either they are a person or they are not.

Yeah, well, not in NY any more.