Why is it okay to kill unborn children but wrong to kill convicted murderers?

[Thinker101]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

 

[Chuz Life]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

Fair question but you should know better than to ever expect a thoughtful honest answer from a proabort on anything.

 

[occupied]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

 

[Chuz Life]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

 

[deanrd]

I think the worst is why arm crazies who go into schools and shoot children?

I think that's such an awful thing to do.

Right wing priorities are so screwed up.

 

[occupied]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

 

[Thinker101]

I think the worst is why arm crazies who go into schools and shoot children?

I think that's such an awful thing to do.

Right wing priorities are so screwed up.

Dang, crazies going into schools is a right wing priority?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

This fails as a false comparison fallacy, and exhibits an ignorance of the law common to most conservatives.

A woman’s right to privacy concerns civil law and substantive due process.

Murder concerns criminal law and procedural due process.

One issue has nothing whatsoever to do with he other.

 

[Chuz Life]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

"The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. "

#Irony

 

[Chuz Life]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

This fails as a false comparison fallacy, and exhibits an ignorance of the law common to most conservatives.

A woman’s right to privacy concerns civil law and substantive due process.

Murder concerns criminal law and procedural due process.

One issue has nothing whatsoever to do with he other.

You have been challenged to a debate in the Bull Ring, Clayton.

Why are you avoiding your chance to educate me and others on this?

 

[caddo kid]

Came across this question a couple days ago.

Liberals love abortion but hate the death penalty. Seems a little hypocritical since both involve the taking of a human life. The only difference is, unborn children haven’t viciously murdered anyone. Why do liberals deem the life of a killer more important that that of an innocent child?

Why is it okay to kill unborn children but wrong to kill convicted murderers?

ask your question to a fetus & you will get your answer ............. crickets ........

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

Correct.

It is a settled, accepted fact of Constitutional law – beyond dispute – that a fetus/embryo is not a ‘baby’ and abortion is not ‘murder’:

‘Commenting on the contingent property interests of the unborn that are generally represented by guardians ad litem, the Court noted: "Perfection of the interests involved, again, has generally been contingent upon live birth. In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." Id., at 162. Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.’

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

Correct.

It is a settled, accepted fact of Constitutional law – beyond dispute – that a fetus/embryo is not a ‘baby’ and abortion is not ‘murder’:

‘Commenting on the contingent property interests of the unborn that are generally represented by guardians ad litem, the Court noted: "Perfection of the interests involved, again, has generally been contingent upon live birth. In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." Id., at 162. Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.’

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

And yet in multiple States if an assailant kills a fetus the charge is murder..... can not have it both ways, either they are a person or they are not.

 

[HenryBHough]

Because a an infant, once born alive, might accidentally turn out to not join The Democrat Party.

A convicted murdered is a pig of a different odor.

Once the "correct" legislation is in place not only will convicted murderers be allowed to vote, they'll have a Democrat Party Fuctionary hand-carry a ballot of the cell of each one and guide them in showing their respect for the party that keeps them alive, well fed and watered.

 

[Chuz Life]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

Correct.

It is a settled, accepted fact of Constitutional law – beyond dispute – that a fetus/embryo is not a ‘baby’ and abortion is not ‘murder’:

‘Commenting on the contingent property interests of the unborn that are generally represented by guardians ad litem, the Court noted: "Perfection of the interests involved, again, has generally been contingent upon live birth. In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." Id., at 162. Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.’

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

And yet in multiple States if an assailant kills a fetus the charge is murder..... can not have it both ways, either they are a person or they are not.

Right!

And that fact is one of several for why that loudmouthed wannabe lawyer fucktard will not debate me on the issue.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

Correct.

It is a settled, accepted fact of Constitutional law – beyond dispute – that a fetus/embryo is not a ‘baby’ and abortion is not ‘murder’:

‘Commenting on the contingent property interests of the unborn that are generally represented by guardians ad litem, the Court noted: "Perfection of the interests involved, again, has generally been contingent upon live birth. In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." Id., at 162. Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.’

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

And yet in multiple States if an assailant kills a fetus the charge is murder..... can not have it both ways, either they are a person or they are not.

Not seeing any authoritarian conservatives hostile to the right to privacy citing Constitutional case law in support of their position.

Absent any such case law, the opinions of conservatives are subjective, irrelevant, and devoid of merit – opinions as ignorant as they are wrongheaded.

 

[caddo kid]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

Correct.

It is a settled, accepted fact of Constitutional law – beyond dispute – that a fetus/embryo is not a ‘baby’ and abortion is not ‘murder’:

‘Commenting on the contingent property interests of the unborn that are generally represented by guardians ad litem, the Court noted: "Perfection of the interests involved, again, has generally been contingent upon live birth. In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." Id., at 162. Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.’

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

And yet in multiple States if an assailant kills a fetus the charge is murder..... can not have it both ways, either they are a person or they are not.

Not a single one of those state statutes represent a fetus as a , "person" as you claim.
PLEASE contact your state representative if you would like to address the idea of changing the law, in your state.

Oh, and stop acting like an idiot.

 

[Chuz Life]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Who are you asking?

Who said anything about being sacred? Or Welfare?

The right in two different issues they think are unconnected. Don't play dumb. You would ban abortion and you would dump children off welfare. That schizophrenic attitude gets pointed out in every one of these threads.

Correct.

It is a settled, accepted fact of Constitutional law – beyond dispute – that a fetus/embryo is not a ‘baby’ and abortion is not ‘murder’:

‘Commenting on the contingent property interests of the unborn that are generally represented by guardians ad litem, the Court noted: "Perfection of the interests involved, again, has generally been contingent upon live birth. In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." Id., at 162. Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.’

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

And yet in multiple States if an assailant kills a fetus the charge is murder..... can not have it both ways, either they are a person or they are not.

Not seeing any authoritarian conservatives hostile to the right to privacy citing Constitutional case law in support of their position.

Absent any such case law, the opinions of conservatives are subjective, irrelevant, and devoid of merit – opinions as ignorant as they are wrongheaded.

This is the court of OPINION, fucktard.

Like it or not, even Supreme Court Justices giver OPINIONS.

Does anyone have the Constitutional right to violate the rights of another human being (especially a child) and then hide that violation behind a so called right to privacy? Clayton?

YES OR NO?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Are Eagle eggs “sacred”?
Your people will take a bullet before allowing an Eagles nest to be tampered with..right?

 

[caddo kid]

Why do you think every fetus is sacred but every welfare baby needs to be abandoned by the system?

Are Eagle eggs “sacred”?
Your people will take a bullet before allowing an Eagles nest to be tampered with..right?

when are Republicans gonna stop eating eggs, or using eggs for preparing food? LOFL