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Ah, if this is all true, why didn't Bush and Cheney fix the problem?
Ah, if this is all true, why didn't Bush and Cheney fix the problem?
because as it has been said by myself and a dozen others in many threads....both parties are all sucking the same teat....BIG MONEY....they only care about what they can get out of a deal....if it doesnt benefit them or the party,drag your feet,make it look like we are doing something,but do what needs to be done to not get it done.....the party not in power at the time will play the bad guys.....
George Bush and the Republicans almost destroyed America, by deregulating the financial markets and borrowing billions from China to finance a useless war.
Everyone knows that the financial markets were deregulated during the Clinton administration. There was a great article in the Rolling Stone describing the AIG debacle & the below is now a FAMOUS article.
If there is any American that doesn't understand what happened & when by now, their IQ has got to be below 70. You really don't want to look this stupid.
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - NYTimes.com
The federal government is directly responsible for the current unemployment in this country & millions of Americans losing their homes. They in effect through Fannie/Freddie decided to co-sign our names to 50% of the mortgages in this country--while lowering lending requirements--& using sub-prime mortgages in their "everyone deserves homeownership policy." Wall street bought these mortgage backed securities & then started trading them in the black hole called hedge funds aka derivitives--also known very well in the 1990's. One single woman pointed this out to Allan Greenspan & then treasury secretary Robert Rubin--& they both ran her out of town on a rail. They completely ignored her warnings. Banking boards in the Clinton & Bush administration continued to ignore all the warnings & this all resulted in a collapse of banking--Wall Street & now us--main street.
If you don't understand this by now, you really shouldn't be on any political board.
George Bush and the Republicans almost destroyed America, by deregulating the financial markets and borrowing billions from China to finance a useless war.
Everyone knows that the financial markets were deregulated during the Clinton administration. There was a great article in the Rolling Stone describing the AIG debacle & the below is now a FAMOUS article.
If there is any American that doesn't understand what happened & when by now, their IQ has got to be below 70. You really don't want to look this stupid.
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - NYTimes.com
The federal government is directly responsible for the current unemployment in this country & millions of Americans losing their homes. They in effect through Fannie/Freddie decided to co-sign our names to 50% of the mortgages in this country--while lowering lending requirements--& using sub-prime mortgages in their "everyone deserves homeownership policy." Wall street bought these mortgage backed securities & then started trading them in the black hole called hedge funds aka derivitives--also known very well in the 1990's. One single woman pointed this out to Allan Greenspan & then treasury secretary Robert Rubin--& they both ran her out of town on a rail. They completely ignored her warnings. Banking boards in the Clinton & Bush administration continued to ignore all the warnings & this all resulted in a collapse of banking--Wall Street & now us--main street.
If you don't understand this by now, you really shouldn't be on any political board.
Ah, if this is all true, why didn't Bush and Cheney fix the problem? In 2000, immediately after the Supreme Injustice gave them the White House, president 'elect' Bush & VP 'elect' Cheney walked hand in hand (almost) to the podium and gave a press conference. In that press conference they blamed the Clinton Administration for a recession, causing fear in the population, which exacerbated an economic slowdown.
Of course they did so to justify a large tax cut, which benefited the few (never did trickle down) and not the many. But, I digress.
If Bush/Cheney didn't fix what they alleged Clinton broke, why the fuck are they given a pass? That had 8 years and managed to really FU not only our economy, but further divided the nation (something the former VP continues to do for self serving purpose).
--but there is enough blame to go around to both parties--democrats & republicans. You can watch the below time-line over the mortgage crisis meltdown. The Bush administration did warn of the melt-down--in fact we even have Bill Clinton --on video blaming his own party over the mortgage melt-down. Robert Rubin & Allan Greenspan have already apologized for their handeling of the derivitives markets--also on video.
If you take a look at the responses from the right on this thread, you get a very clear picture of why I parted ways with the right. The right has lost it's direction, it's vocabulary, and it's intellectual foundation.
They've tried to replace those with fear, hate, and bumper-sticker slogans.
It's plenty for some - but not me.
That happened way back in '95, at least.If you take a look at the responses from the right on this thread, you get a very clear picture of why I parted ways with the right. The right has lost it's direction, it's vocabulary, and it's intellectual foundation.
Yeah...Like the DNC and the loony left are completely above and innocent of such things.They've tried to replace those with fear, hate, and bumper-sticker slogans.
George Bush and the Republicans almost destroyed America, by deregulating the financial markets and borrowing billions from China to finance a useless war.
Everyone knows that the financial markets were deregulated during the Clinton administration. There was a great article in the Rolling Stone describing the AIG debacle & the below is now a FAMOUS article.
If there is any American that doesn't understand what happened & when by now, their IQ has got to be below 70. You really don't want to look this stupid.
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - NYTimes.com
The federal government is directly responsible for the current unemployment in this country & millions of Americans losing their homes. They in effect through Fannie/Freddie decided to co-sign our names to 50% of the mortgages in this country--while lowering lending requirements--& using sub-prime mortgages in their "everyone deserves homeownership policy." Wall street bought these mortgage backed securities & then started trading them in the black hole called hedge funds aka derivitives--also known very well in the 1990's. One single woman pointed this out to Allan Greenspan & then treasury secretary Robert Rubin--& they both ran her out of town on a rail. They completely ignored her warnings. Banking boards in the Clinton & Bush administration continued to ignore all the warnings & this all resulted in a collapse of banking--Wall Street & now us--main street.
If you don't understand this by now, you really shouldn't be on any political board.
The mortgages?
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,haaa!!!!!!
The $516 TRILLION DOLLAR derivative bomb destroyed our economy. Not the mortgages!!!
Derivatives are the new ticking time bomb Paul B. Farrell - MarketWatch
That happened way back in '95, at least.If you take a look at the responses from the right on this thread, you get a very clear picture of why I parted ways with the right. The right has lost it's direction, it's vocabulary, and it's intellectual foundation.
The same old lists of the same old stale stereotypes, strawman arguments, sweeping generalizations and plain old lies, by people who were more than likely never on board with the right to start with, hardly cut any ice with any real old-school conservative types I know of.
Yeah...Like the DNC and the loony left are completely above and innocent of such things.They've tried to replace those with fear, hate, and bumper-sticker slogans.
The people are the right are idiots.
They have almost destroyed America.
The people are the right are idiots.
They have almost destroyed America.
Yeah, there's a lot of that idiocy going around.
Good case in point - can't really deny the idiocy on the far right - so simply ad hom the poster.
Might be persuasive to some folks - but not to me. Maybe I just set the bar too high ??????
-"The bar too high--
The two asinine lists linked in the OP are nothing but a string of ad homs and strawmen, yet you totally bought into them.Good case in point - can't really deny the idiocy on the far right - so simply ad hom the poster.
Might be persuasive to some folks - but not to me. Maybe I just set the bar too high ??????
more ad hom - is this where I act surprised?
Point proven YET AGAIN.
In reality you have no clue what I have or have not "bought into." In fact, I didn't even read the OP's article - I simply chimed in with why I have parted company with the right. So you make assumptions and attack your own assumptions about me rather than the real issue or even a real representation of my position.
Very typical - and very sad. Underscores EXACTLY what I've been saying.
What's truly sad, and has been pointed out numerous times, is that you do indeed have several dogs in the fight.more ad hom - is this where I act surprised?
Point proven YET AGAIN.
In reality you have no clue what I have or have not "bought into." In fact, I didn't even read the OP's article - I simply chimed in with why I have parted company with the right. So you make assumptions and attack your own assumptions about me rather than the real issue or even a real representation of my position.
Very typical - and very sad. Underscores EXACTLY what I've been saying.
What's truly sad, and has been pointed out numerous times, is that you do indeed have several dogs in the fight.more ad hom - is this where I act surprised?
Point proven YET AGAIN.
In reality you have no clue what I have or have not "bought into." In fact, I didn't even read the OP's article - I simply chimed in with why I have parted company with the right. So you make assumptions and attack your own assumptions about me rather than the real issue or even a real representation of my position.
Very typical - and very sad. Underscores EXACTLY what I've been saying.
What has been underscored numerous times on this thread, is that the two buffoon authors linked in the OP, and those who throw in with them, are fakes who probably were never ever in with the right for them to subsequently part ways.
But feel free to carry on with the babbling...It's rather amusing.
more ad hom - is this where I act surprised?
Point proven YET AGAIN.
In reality you have no clue what I have or have not "bought into." In fact, I didn't even read the OP's article - I simply chimed in with why I have parted company with the right. So you make assumptions and attack your own assumptions about me rather than the real issue or even a real representation of my position.
Very typical - and very sad. Underscores EXACTLY what I've been saying.
Nodoginafight--right now a kitten is kicking your arse. You digging your political IQ deeper & deeper into a hole--with these continual comments & ABSOLUTELY no substance.
If you cannot debate people on these boards with FACTS--& links to those FACTS--why are you even here taking all this punishment?--
These political boards were never meant to be a mud-slinging contest--they are here to inform & educate. Believe me, you're not an educator you're a mud-slinger.
