Why I am voting for Obama again

[BluePhantom]

You do realize you have a Klingon symbol in your sig right? I mean... Romney with a Klingon symbol. Did you lose a bet?

Yeah I know what a Klingon symbol is. One might reasonably conclude that by putting a Klingon symbol in my signature I have a pretty decent idea about what that symbol might signify. I know such concepts may challenge the intellectual capacity of the average liberal mind, but indeed I am fully aware of the implications.

BTW....Hab SoSlI' Quch. PetaQ!

Whooo! Someone open a window. The geek-stink is getting pretty thick in here!

What can I say? I can indeed speak Klingon....well somewhat at least. On the plus side I do not own Star Trek uniforms or go to conventions. It actually started as a bonding thing with my step-daughter so we could speak to each other without anyone else knowing what we were talking about.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Mittens wants to do the exact same thing that Bush was able to pull off. And while those actions were excellent for the ultra rich, they put the fuks to me.

So Obama again. At least Obama wants to kiss before he fuks you. Rethugs just want you to bend over and take it. I like being kissed first.

Show examples of how "you got fucked".
Then show examples that prove the policies of Bush 43 were directly responsible.
While you are at it, show how the decisions made in Congress over the second Bush 43 admin are exonerated from the "fucking of zeke".
Oh, don't bother posting opinion pieces or conjured up stories from huffpo, snopes, politico, etc.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Say it out loud.

Do you claim we are NOT a democracy?

Nope. Representative republic.
As far as democracies go, California and New Jersey have the closest thing to democracy.
NJ is a binding referendum state. Also it has "home rule"..
California has it's form or referendum as well in the form of "propositions"..
Pure Democracy does not work because the deck is stacked in favor of the "50% plus one majority".

 

[Shelzin]

I see. And all this time I thought it was just because you were a tool.

You do realize you have a Klingon symbol in your sig right? I mean... Romney with a Klingon symbol. Did you lose a bet?

Yeah I know what a Klingon symbol is. One might reasonably conclude that by putting a Klingon symbol in my signature I have a pretty decent idea about what that symbol might signify. I know such concepts may challenge the intellectual capacity of the average liberal mind, but indeed I am fully aware of the implications.

ok.

BTW....Hab SoSlI' Quch. PetaQ!

*laughs*

Pahtak

Edit: I might have misspelled that... I have absolutely no clue. Might be Pahtahc or Pahtahq... *shrugs* I should find a Klingon spell checker.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Say it out loud.

Do you claim we are NOT a democracy?

we are a federated republic I LOVE the constitution. you might hate it, i love it.

we love our Constitution as well.

Only when it works to the political advantage of liberalism.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Say it out loud.

Do you claim we are NOT a democracy?

we are a federated republic I LOVE the constitution. you might hate it, i love it.

The introduction of this new principle of representative democracy has rendered useless almost everything written before on the structure of government; Thomas Jefferson


me and Jefferson beg to disagree with your partisan stance

"me and Jefferson" ???? You arrogant little shit.
How dare you ingratiate yourself with greatness?
Your posts do not rise to the level of stupid.

 

[thereisnospoon]

now ask yourselves why the republican party hates the word democracy?

huh?!!!!

 

[Unkotare]

It actually started as a bonding thing with my step-daughter so we could speak to each other without anyone else knowing what we were talking about.

Far be it from me and all that but, you know you could have done that with a real language...

 

[BluePhantom]

now ask yourselves why the republican party hates the word democracy?

huh?!!!!

Spoon...don't you realize by now that speaking logic to TM is about as useful as speaking Klingon to a frog? I know she has brain cells, I just don't think they intermingle. That is pretty much a classic TM comment that everyone just kind of shrugs their shoulders at and says "well....it's TM...what do you expect?"

 

[Mad Scientist]

like Norquist the right wants to kill our democracy

Hell they even claim we are NOT a democracy

We're not, we're a Representative Republic.

 

[BluePhantom]

It actually started as a bonding thing with my step-daughter so we could speak to each other without anyone else knowing what we were talking about.

Far be it from me and all that but, you know you could have done that with a real language...

Where's the fun in that? My other children and I do the same thing by speaking a language we made up....we call it "Malleblab". It's pretty funny actually. We incorporated tongue clicks and finger snaps, and hand claps as well as vocal sounds. For example a high pitched tongue click off the side of the mouth means the subject is enlarged while a low click from the front of the mouth means it's diminished. Two quick sucking sounds off the front teeth with your tongue (sounds kind of like a weasel or something) is superlative.

So for example:

Kotosh = to lie

Kotosh followed by a side tongue click is a huge lie

Kotosh followed by a front tongue click is a small fib

Kotosh followed by two quick front teeth sucking clicks is the biggest lie that can be told.

te as a suffix is plural

ko as a suffix is past tense

je- as a prefix is you

ka- as a prefix is motion "to me"

so if I said jekakotoshte'ko (low front click) I have said "you told have told me small lies"

By the same token:

la- as a prefix is motion "to him"
le- as a prefix is motion "to her"

so while:

jekakotoshte'ko (low front click) means "you told have told me small lies"

jelakotoshte'ko (low front click) means "you told have told him small lies"

and

jelekotoshte'ko (low front click) means "you told have told her small lies"

It's fun...silly...but it's fun

 

[IGetItAlready]

like Norquist the right wants to kill our democracy

Hell they even claim we are NOT a democracy

We're not dipshit.
We're a representative republic and if you're too stupid to know the difference perhaps you should give up on politics and go read a little something.

 

[Vel]

It looks like I still remain one of those undecided voters , Mitt Romney appears to represent failed economic policies that were tried and failed under the Bush Administration which led to where we are now. I did not vote for President Obama the first time around , for the simple reason is that his party while tending to the needs to the American people which is a noble thing to do, keeping this nations financial house in order is also noble and has been put on sidelines. Mitt Romney's economic and foreign policy is nothing but a revisit of the Bush Administration in which we as a nation made the choice to cut taxes several times while at war as well as reduce regulations to point where the economy eventually could not sustain it. I do not see much daylight betweeen these two men in terms of how much will get done while they are in office, so I tend to remain undecided and hopeful that perhaps one day someone will step forward and provide real leadership our nation has been lacking for a very long time now.

How can you say that with the state of the economy that the democrats take care of the needs of the people? The needs of the people should NOT be dependency on the government. Because of the democrats, who have controlled things for 5 1/2 years the needs of the people have risen to historic proportions. To me that stinks of failure. I am going to use an analogy that is consistant with the DNC history. Taking care of the needs of the people is like saying that the slave owner took care of his slaves that were in chains by feeding them.

Romney reformed Mass. and did pretty well at it. What you need to think is, does Obama deserve to be rewarded for the job he has done regardless of whom he is running against. In this case the man he is running against has a proven history of success so the choice should be easy.

Then the question becomes will Mitt Romney govern as President as he did in Mass. If you look at his positions now and what they were then, you see a stark difference between the two. While I will not deny like many others that Mitt Romney has had a history of success, I do think that the tendancy to say that President Obama is the sole reason why the economy is in the condition its in is to deny how we got here in the first place. That does not excuse President Obama for his policies that have helped add to that, however someone will have to explain to me in better detail what they mean by Dependancy I suppose, because take Food Stamps for instance, thats 78 billion dollars of out of a 3.7 Trillion Dollar Budget. So your not really talking about much when your spending about 8 Billion a month in Afghinstan with an unclear outcome. If your talking about Medicare or Social Security , then those are programs people worked for and paid into and and as for Social Security that program will not impact the Budget for another 20 years. Of course Medicare can use some reform but I for one think it doesn't serve any useful purpose to demonize those on it while seeking their approval to reform it. In the end, I do not see any use in advocating for less revenue into the Federal Govt. and at the same time advocate for increasing spending on DOD and saying that by cutting other areas you will balance the budget. To me thats rather like saying you will cut your salary by 20% , and your spending by 20% then go out and buy a new car and hope to pay off your existing bills it just wont work. As some point be it President Obama or Mitt Romney there has to be a happy medium between revenue and spending in order get this nation on it's feet and forgive me if I tend to see Mitt Romney as just a replay of President Bush and all of the former Bush staff and advisors he surrrounds himself with doesn't help much.

I think you are wrong to assume that Romney will have fiscal policies like George Bush's. Romney has already signaled his intentions to get serious on the economy by selecting Paul Ryan as his VP. I think he will look at the federal budget the same way he looked at the Mass. budget. Closing loopholes, eliminating duplication and raising some fees. And when it comes to money, I don't think a guy like Romney who is used to being the guy at the top is going to need much financial advice.

 

[thereisnospoon]

now ask yourselves why the republican party hates the word democracy?

huh?!!!!

Spoon...don't you realize by now that speaking logic to TM is about as useful as speaking Klingon to a frog? I know she has brain cells, I just don't think they intermingle. That is pretty much a classic TM comment that everyone just kind of shrugs their shoulders at and says "well....it's TM...what do you expect?"

Well stated!

 

[thereisnospoon]

like Norquist the right wants to kill our democracy

Hell they even claim we are NOT a democracy

We're not, we're a Representative Republic.

House of REPRESENTATIVES...State REPRESENTATIVES( Assembly) ....That about sums it up.

 

[Unkotare]

It actually started as a bonding thing with my step-daughter so we could speak to each other without anyone else knowing what we were talking about.

Far be it from me and all that but, you know you could have done that with a real language...

Where's the fun in that? It's fun...silly...but it's fun

How about you could still have fun and all learn something useful at the same time?

 

[mamooth]

Why am I voting for Obama again? Because I don't want the USA to become a corporate feudal oligarch state. That concern pretty much overrides everything else.

Don't try to imagine the harm that a Supreme Court with a 7-2 hyperactivist conservative majority could do. It's just too frightening.

 

[Too Tall]

If Smith and Conyer are communists, then Boehner and Ryan are fascists.

Words have definite meanings. YOU don't get to change the meanings.

funny stuff.

Obama's grandfather was a communist who just so happened to work for the furniture store selling furniture.... HOW RADICAL! Obama's grandmother was a communist who worked for the bank.


and John Conyers, a supposed member of this evil and nefarious organization called the DSA is chairman of the judiciary committee. I wonder how Boehner let that slip by?

Lamar Smith is the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and John Conyers is the ranking member. Boehner does not select who the Democrats appoint to these committees.

Are all Communists harmless, or just the some of them?

Lamar Smith is a Republican and my question was in reference to Obama's grandfather and grandmother being Communists. It is basic knowledge that the Speaker of the House in the majority party appoints the Chairman of all committees in the Congress and the minority party appoints the ranking member of the committees.

 

[PoliticalChic]

like Norquist the right wants to kill our democracy

Hell they even claim we are NOT a democracy

1. Socialist policies favor increased central planning of the economy by politicians and by bureaucrats, instead of allowing entrepreneurs, businesses, and customers to make decisions in a free market. Socialists also favor government attempts to collectivize the means of production and to divvy up the national wealth. The reason: because they insist on equality of results, as opposed to the traditional American belief in equality ‘under the law.’

2. Do you want an economic system in which you pay most of the money you earn to the government, and the government gives you back benefits on terms and conditions decided by politicians and bureaucrats? That is not the America of freedom and prosperity we have known for 300 years. That is the vision of Karl Marx. And that is what the secular-socialist design is about.

Gingrich, "To Save America"

 

[AquaAthena]

like Norquist the right wants to kill our democracy

Hell they even claim we are NOT a democracy

1. Socialist policies favor increased central planning of the economy by politicians and by bureaucrats, instead of allowing entrepreneurs, businesses, and customers to make decisions in a free market. Socialists also favor government attempts to collectivize the means of production and to divvy up the national wealth. The reason: because they insist on equality of results, as opposed to the traditional American belief in equality ‘under the law.’

2. Do you want an economic system in which you pay most of the money you earn to the government, and the government gives you back benefits on terms and conditions decided by politicians and bureaucrats? That is not the America of freedom and prosperity we have known for 300 years. That is the vision of Karl Marx. And that is what the secular-socialist design is about.

Gingrich, "To Save America"

Obama and the progressives are also following the Cloward and Piven strategy and let us hope it does not advance: The result would be Greece.

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward (1926–2001) and Frances Fox Piven (b. 1932) that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty".

Cloward and Piven were a married couple who were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. The strategy was formulated in a May 1966 article in left-wing[1] magazine The Nation titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".[2]

The two were critical of the public welfare system, and their strategy called for overloading that system to force a different set of policies to address poverty.

Cloward and Piven wrote that “the ultimate objective of this strategy [would be] to wipe out poverty by establishing a guaranteed annual income...”[2] There would also be side consequences of this strategy, according to Cloward and Piven.

Much more: Cloward