Why do so many people deny climate change

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    I just finished reading a post in which Abraham responded to a comment by posting a graph. After realizing the person he was talking to was taking visual cues from a picture and ignoring the information in the graph, I started thinking about why people deny climate change.

    Tim Prosser wrote an interesting article on the subject and it came down to just a few ideas:

    One is that many people who deny global warming do not have a science background. Therefore, they find themselves in a bind when dealing with the materials explaining the issue.

    Additionally, climate change discussion has become so politicized and misinformation so regularly injected by those with incentive to do so that the conversation is overwhelming for many people to sort through.

    And last but not least, I think the prospect of declining living standards creates an emotional response in people that in many ways shares the stages of grief. People are emotionally attached to lifestyles and it is VERY difficult to accept data that may point toward new behaviors.

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    "Denying Climate change?" What a stupid thing to say

    We question the hypothesis that an additional wisp of CO2 is melting the polar Ice caps and have asked, repeatedly, for some experimental evidence

    We get pooh flinging monkey talking about "Deniers!" in return
     
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    You might want to put Frank on your ignore list, Loa.
     
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    When you have been lied to the first time about the climate becoming an ice age in the 70's then changed to warming you tend not to believe them.

    They also are not addressing why so many planets in our solar system climates are changing also.

    It seems to be tied to something that is happening to our Solar System not mankind's pollution.
     
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    Boo fucking hoo

    Frank is a meany for daring to ask where our experiments are
     
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    The title of the thread is moot s0n!!
     
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    It was the global warming deniers, who you now believe, who lied to you about a coming Ice Age. The vast majority of scientists were predicting global warming in the 70s.

    And the planetary canard has been addressed! Some planets and moons are warming, but other planets and moons are cooling, so it is obviously related to conditions in each location rather than a solar system related cause.
     
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    NOBODY denies that climate change is real!

    What the vast majority of us deny is the amount of impact modern civilization has upon it. And, we find it most disturbing that the vast majority of Globull Warming alarmists try to put the blame on the USA and not on the real culprits - China and most 3rd world countries that produce the vast amount of gases and smoke that MIGHT have a small impact on these changes.

    Do immissions affect ocean temperatures?

    And, why exactly is warming that horrible? Plants react afirmatively to warmer weather and they produce gases. Should we denude the planet of plants?

    All living creatures produce such so-called harmful gases. Reduce all such life on earth?

    And don't give me this BS that Obumbler's avowed goal of destroying the coal industry is going to save the planet from Globull Warming or Climate Change. :mad:

    p.s.,

    next post is a WASHINGTON POST editorial on the subject!
     
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    Lomborg: “Don’t blame climate change for extreme weather”

    Written By : William Teach, September 14, 2013

    I’m shocked that the Washington Post has allowed this op-ed to be published, which blows away so many of the myths of extreme weather and “climate change”, many of which have been exposed time and again by many Climate Realists

    Read story with links @ Lomborg: ?Don?t blame climate change for extreme weather? | Right Wing News

    And here's his closing comment:

     
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    Frank said:
    ...Denying Climate change?" What a stupid thing to say....We question the hypothesis that an additional wisp of CO2 is melting the polar Ice caps.....Boo fucking hoo....Frank is a meany for daring to ask where our experiments are .....


    Well, Frank - I don't see questioning as much as I see chuckle-headed leaps and spouting of pre-prepared talking points handed out by questionable sources. It seems that here, and on other message boards where the subject comes up, responses are completely ignored or misunderstood, with a complete circle back to original talking points that don't stand up to the data. Now, of course, I do not intend to say EVERYONE does this. I am saying it seems to be the trend.

    You say people think you are mean? I wouldn't know about that. All I can say is it appears you leap fast with the tongue-fist. Maybe that is a case of hyper-argumentitis rather than being mean. Which ever, you seem VERY sure of your position.

    Peach said:
    When you have been lied to the first time about the climate becoming an ice age in the 70's then changed to warming you tend not to believe them. They also are not addressing why so many planets in our solar system climates are changing also. It seems to be tied to something that is happening to our Solar System not mankind's pollution.

    I'm not sure what you mean by 'lied to'. You think scientists who study this lied? Or you read some sort of popular book which sensationalized ideas and then felt lied to? I'm not sure what you mean.

    Let me ask you something. Let's assume for the sake of argument that mankind is NOT causing global warming. Rather, it is the product of some sort of planetary/solar system sort of thing going on. Even if this is the case, as we KNOW we can slow/change/effect what is occurring by changing our behavior, why not go ahead and do that?

    ADDED NOTE FOR OROGENICMAN: Good morning! I realized I didn't even say hi! Hope you have a wonderful weekend and even better, get some good shots if you are going to LSA. :) Maybe there is a spot here for some photos.

    K.
     
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