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It makes no difference how the point is made, the right will lie and twist what was said in any case.Why do Republicans support a nuclear Iran?
Just noticed this.
Yet another thread that starts "Why is it that..." followed by some lie about Republicans?
Don't you people have ANYTHING truthful to talk about? Lies are all you have?
I understand that the Republicans and Netanyahu would have never settled on anything that didn't include turning Iran into a sea of radioactive glass. Indeed, those billionaires with deals in Alberta and North Dakota must be having fits that the price of oil will drop further and the interest in their holdings hovers near zero. The fact remains we have more in common with Iran politically, militarily and economically than many would like to accept and it is going to get in the way of how we both approach and deal with this problem. Some people are going to get left out and the louder Republicans scream the easier it will be to see how mad those billionaires are.Because they can help us fight ISIS, which we can't do alone without huge expenditures of money and treasure. This is a chance to rebuild the Middle East and solve the drain of money going to the military industrial complex, while we get nothing in return except more debt and more trouble.Why are Dembulbs so eager to trust Iran
Yes...and when hitler sent his minions to fight in Spain before World War 2 no one thought anything of it.....
It makes no difference how the point is made, the right will lie and twist what was said in any case.Why do Republicans support a nuclear Iran?
Just noticed this.
Yet another thread that starts "Why is it that..." followed by some lie about Republicans?
Don't you people have ANYTHING truthful to talk about? Lies are all you have?
I understand that the Republicans and Netanyahu would have never settled on anything that didn't include turning Iran into a sea of radioactive glass. Indeed, those billionaires with deals in Alberta and North Dakota must be having fits that the price of oil will drop further and the interest in their holdings hovers near zero. The fact remains we have more in common with Iran politically, militarily and economically than many would like to accept and it is going to get in the way of how we both approach and deal with this problem. Some people are going to get left out and the louder Republicans scream the easier it will be to see how mad those billionaires are.Because they can help us fight ISIS, which we can't do alone without huge expenditures of money and treasure. This is a chance to rebuild the Middle East and solve the drain of money going to the military industrial complex, while we get nothing in return except more debt and more trouble.Why are Dembulbs so eager to trust Iran
Yes...and when hitler sent his minions to fight in Spain before World War 2 no one thought anything of it.....
I take it you have not seen the speeches calling for death to America by Iranian leaders, hostages held by Iran, bankrolling terrorism etc etc. Now they are getting an infusion of 140 billion or so with the lifting of sanctions. And we are suppose to take their word they are going to be goody two shoes. And we have what in common with Iran??? You that much of a Obama butt muncher???? Left wingers have taken leave of whatever senses they had (if any).
You assume they will comply98% reduction in fisionable material and a dismantling of centerfuges capable of making nuclear material
Why do Republicans want to maintain the old levels?
Why?
I understand that the Republicans and Netanyahu would have never settled on anything that didn't include turning Iran into a sea of radioactive glass. Indeed, those billionaires with deals in Alberta and North Dakota must be having fits that the price of oil will drop further and the interest in their holdings hovers near zero. The fact remains we have more in common with Iran politically, militarily and economically than many would like to accept and it is going to get in the way of how we both approach and deal with this problem. Some people are going to get left out and the louder Republicans scream the easier it will be to see how mad those billionaires are.Because they can help us fight ISIS, which we can't do alone without huge expenditures of money and treasure. This is a chance to rebuild the Middle East and solve the drain of money going to the military industrial complex, while we get nothing in return except more debt and more trouble.Why are Dembulbs so eager to trust Iran
Yes...and when hitler sent his minions to fight in Spain before World War 2 no one thought anything of it.....
I take it you have not seen the speeches calling for death to America by Iranian leaders, hostages held by Iran, bankrolling terrorism etc etc. Now they are getting an infusion of 140 billion or so with the lifting of sanctions. And we are suppose to take their word they are going to be goody two shoes. And we have what in common with Iran??? You that much of a Obama butt muncher???? Left wingers have taken leave of whatever senses they had (if any).
I guess you never noticed how many times the right has called for the death of Iranians. Now that level headed people are in charge you might wonder how a new approach will be more successful than the one you were using.
I'm pretty sure that Americans have been calling for Iranian leader deaths since Ruhollah Khomeini, probably the man who invented American hate for Iran. That said, the last Iranian leader who denied the holocaust is no longer a leader(Ahmadinejad). So perhaps there is some hope.I understand that the Republicans and Netanyahu would have never settled on anything that didn't include turning Iran into a sea of radioactive glass. Indeed, those billionaires with deals in Alberta and North Dakota must be having fits that the price of oil will drop further and the interest in their holdings hovers near zero. The fact remains we have more in common with Iran politically, militarily and economically than many would like to accept and it is going to get in the way of how we both approach and deal with this problem. Some people are going to get left out and the louder Republicans scream the easier it will be to see how mad those billionaires are.Because they can help us fight ISIS, which we can't do alone without huge expenditures of money and treasure. This is a chance to rebuild the Middle East and solve the drain of money going to the military industrial complex, while we get nothing in return except more debt and more trouble.
Yes...and when hitler sent his minions to fight in Spain before World War 2 no one thought anything of it.....
I take it you have not seen the speeches calling for death to America by Iranian leaders, hostages held by Iran, bankrolling terrorism etc etc. Now they are getting an infusion of 140 billion or so with the lifting of sanctions. And we are suppose to take their word they are going to be goody two shoes. And we have what in common with Iran??? You that much of a Obama butt muncher???? Left wingers have taken leave of whatever senses they had (if any).
I guess you never noticed how many times the right has called for the death of Iranians. Now that level headed people are in charge you might wonder how a new approach will be more successful than the one you were using.
Just the terrorist cells. Not to mention the fact we never had a Holocaust denier as President as Iran has in the recent past.
Russians were and are rational human beings.They can be reasoned with because they knew that Reagan meant what he said.Republicans have turned into whimpering cowards.
Reagan negotiated with the Soviet Union, who at the time had a conventional military that could have defeated us and 5,000 nuclear weapons already mounted on ballistic missiles capable of hitting all of the continental United States, and already targeted at our major cities. His motto..."Trust but verify", he got that motto from a Russian proverb.
Obama negotiates a deal with Iran, a tiny country that is no direct threat to the U.S. and who has no nuclear weapons and no ballistic missiles, and who if a war started would be defeated in a week, and his motto? "Do not trust, but verify".
WTF has happened to conservatives? WTF!!?
Its a dangerous world kids, always has been and always will be. Bush Jr. had 8 years to do SOMETHING about Iran's nuclear capability and did NOTHING so their nuclear program leaped ahead by miles. Now Republicans are shitting their diapers.
CRY you whiny little pecks.
I'm pretty sure that Americans have been calling for Iranian leader deaths since Ruhollah Khomeini, probably the man who invented American hate for Iran. That said, the last Iranian leader who denied the holocaust is no longer a leader(Ahmadinejad). So perhaps there is some hope.I understand that the Republicans and Netanyahu would have never settled on anything that didn't include turning Iran into a sea of radioactive glass. Indeed, those billionaires with deals in Alberta and North Dakota must be having fits that the price of oil will drop further and the interest in their holdings hovers near zero. The fact remains we have more in common with Iran politically, militarily and economically than many would like to accept and it is going to get in the way of how we both approach and deal with this problem. Some people are going to get left out and the louder Republicans scream the easier it will be to see how mad those billionaires are.Yes...and when hitler sent his minions to fight in Spain before World War 2 no one thought anything of it.....
I take it you have not seen the speeches calling for death to America by Iranian leaders, hostages held by Iran, bankrolling terrorism etc etc. Now they are getting an infusion of 140 billion or so with the lifting of sanctions. And we are suppose to take their word they are going to be goody two shoes. And we have what in common with Iran??? You that much of a Obama butt muncher???? Left wingers have taken leave of whatever senses they had (if any).
I guess you never noticed how many times the right has called for the death of Iranians. Now that level headed people are in charge you might wonder how a new approach will be more successful than the one you were using.
Just the terrorist cells. Not to mention the fact we never had a Holocaust denier as President as Iran has in the recent past.
Trust has nothing to do with it.Why are Dembulbs so eager to trust Iran
Russians were and are rational human beings.They can be reasoned with because they knew that Reagan meant what he said.Republicans have turned into whimpering cowards.
Reagan negotiated with the Soviet Union, who at the time had a conventional military that could have defeated us and 5,000 nuclear weapons already mounted on ballistic missiles capable of hitting all of the continental United States, and already targeted at our major cities. His motto..."Trust but verify", he got that motto from a Russian proverb.
Obama negotiates a deal with Iran, a tiny country that is no direct threat to the U.S. and who has no nuclear weapons and no ballistic missiles, and who if a war started would be defeated in a week, and his motto? "Do not trust, but verify".
WTF has happened to conservatives? WTF!!?
Its a dangerous world kids, always has been and always will be. Bush Jr. had 8 years to do SOMETHING about Iran's nuclear capability and did NOTHING so their nuclear program leaped ahead by miles. Now Republicans are shitting their diapers.
CRY you whiny little pecks.
Radical Islam is not rational. They cannot be reasoned with and have no reason to comply with any agreement they make because they know that at the very worst the current POTUS would replace the sanctions he has agreed to lift.
No one respects or fears barack hussein obama. The world perceives him a joke especially in the Muslim world.
What does hearings have to do with anything? That's after the fact.We had hearings over the first one.Reagan sells weapons to Iran: Right-Wing Hero
Obama prevents Iran from building nukes: Right-Wing Villain.
The Obama will be long gone before everyone sees the ramifications
If you have an agreement and the other party breaks it, you are better off than having no agreement because you are justified in pursuing punitive measures. In the case of Iran, you bring back sanctions and that's a pretty big stick.i remember they were refusing inspectors. i also remember that they weren't voluntarily in that agreement, and that they did not have wmd programs.it did work with iraq. iraq did not have a wmd program.it does not give them the right to refuse. they can protest, but not refuse
Yeah...we saw how well this worked with iraq.
so there aren't 'no inspection zones'Read more: Iran reaches landmark nuclear deal after compromise on U.N. inspections - Washington Times
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that's how.
what makes anyone think that there are no inspection zones?
'However, access isn’t guaranteed and could be delayed, a condition that critics of the deal Under the accord, Tehran would have the right to challenge U.N requests, and an arbitration board composed of Iran and the six world powers would then decide on the issue."
reading
thank you.
So you weren't old enough to remember the iraq weapons inspection fiasco?
That would explain a lot of things....
what do you remember?
And you think this is going to be any different?
Saddam agreed to a lot of things..right up until he decided to disagree.
The president decided that a deal with Iran is the be-all and end-all of his second term in office. And to reach that deal, he would have to make nice with the clerical regime in Tehran, subordinating all other regional issues that might get in the way. This has meant tacitly or overtly siding with Iran’s beleaguered allies—the Assad regime in Syria and the Shiite-dominated Iraq government in Baghdad, among others. The White House has thereby helped push many of the Sunni Arab tribes who once fought against al Qaeda extremists into ISIS’s fold.Because they can help us fight ISIS, which we can't do alone without huge expenditures of money and treasure. This is a chance to rebuild the Middle East and solve the drain of money going to the military industrial complex, while we get nothing in return except more debt and more trouble.Why are Dembulbs so eager to trust Iran
Russians were and are rational human beings.They can be reasoned with because they knew that Reagan meant what he said.Republicans have turned into whimpering cowards.
Reagan negotiated with the Soviet Union, who at the time had a conventional military that could have defeated us and 5,000 nuclear weapons already mounted on ballistic missiles capable of hitting all of the continental United States, and already targeted at our major cities. His motto..."Trust but verify", he got that motto from a Russian proverb.
Obama negotiates a deal with Iran, a tiny country that is no direct threat to the U.S. and who has no nuclear weapons and no ballistic missiles, and who if a war started would be defeated in a week, and his motto? "Do not trust, but verify".
WTF has happened to conservatives? WTF!!?
Its a dangerous world kids, always has been and always will be. Bush Jr. had 8 years to do SOMETHING about Iran's nuclear capability and did NOTHING so their nuclear program leaped ahead by miles. Now Republicans are shitting their diapers.
CRY you whiny little pecks.
Radical Islam is not rational. They cannot be reasoned with and have no reason to comply with any agreement they make because they know that at the very worst the current POTUS would replace the sanctions he has agreed to lift.
No one respects or fears barack hussein obama. The world perceives him a joke especially in the Muslim world.
Nah, you just have things that you need to believe because it makes you feel good or are the talking points for the day. Raygun called the Soviet Union the 'evil empire'. But you see them as rational. Whatever floats your dingy.
You missed this part:
"the Soviet Union, who at the time had a conventional military that could have defeated us and 5,000 nuclear weapons already mounted on ballistic missiles capable of hitting all of the continental United States, and already targeted at our major cities."
Yet you are terrified of a country with no nukes and no ballistic missiles and who's conventional army poses no threat to us in the least and is 8,000 miles away.
Conservatism = Fear. Pure and simple.
But.....but.......Bush!!!!Russians were and are rational human beings.They can be reasoned with because they knew that Reagan meant what he said.Republicans have turned into whimpering cowards.
Reagan negotiated with the Soviet Union, who at the time had a conventional military that could have defeated us and 5,000 nuclear weapons already mounted on ballistic missiles capable of hitting all of the continental United States, and already targeted at our major cities. His motto..."Trust but verify", he got that motto from a Russian proverb.
Obama negotiates a deal with Iran, a tiny country that is no direct threat to the U.S. and who has no nuclear weapons and no ballistic missiles, and who if a war started would be defeated in a week, and his motto? "Do not trust, but verify".
WTF has happened to conservatives? WTF!!?
Its a dangerous world kids, always has been and always will be. Bush Jr. had 8 years to do SOMETHING about Iran's nuclear capability and did NOTHING so their nuclear program leaped ahead by miles. Now Republicans are shitting their diapers.
CRY you whiny little pecks.
Radical Islam is not rational. They cannot be reasoned with and have no reason to comply with any agreement they make because they know that at the very worst the current POTUS would replace the sanctions he has agreed to lift.
No one respects or fears barack hussein obama. The world perceives him a joke especially in the Muslim world.
Nah, you just have things that you need to believe because it makes you feel good or are the talking points for the day. Raygun called the Soviet Union the 'evil empire'. But you see them as rational. Whatever floats your dingy.
You missed this part:
"the Soviet Union, who at the time had a conventional military that could have defeated us and 5,000 nuclear weapons already mounted on ballistic missiles capable of hitting all of the continental United States, and already targeted at our major cities."
Yet you are terrified of a country with no nukes and no ballistic missiles and who's conventional army poses no threat to us in the least and is 8,000 miles away.
Conservatism = Fear. Pure and simple.
Because, moron, the soviets didn't want to die to go to heaven. The beliefs of the iranian religious leaders is that they need to bring about an apocalypse in order to bring back the 12th imam and bring about the world Caliphate........you guys keep bitching about how nuts christians are, and here you have actual nuts, who are currently killing people around the world....and you guys think they are more rational than the soviets.
And there is no anytime, anywhere inspection regime.....there is a panel of countries, and iran sits on the panel, and if iran objects to an inspection they have 24 days to discuss it...and iran still has the final say.....
you guys are fucking nuts.
Cut and paste again?Staying the course and maintaining existing sanctions will result in Iran having the capability to produce eight nuclear weapons within six months
Under the new agreement, Iran would not have the ability to produce one warhead in the next ten years
Is Republican hatred of Obama so great that they would rather have a nuclear Iran than for Obama to get credit for disarming them?
Like you, the man is a proven liar.....
Are you claiming that he is not endorsing a nuclear powered Iran?
Better read this:
Here are some of his statements on the subject, going back to his first campaign for the presidency:
June 5, 2008, in Cairo: "I will continue to be clear on the fact that an Iranian nuclear weapon would be profoundly destabilizing for the entire region.It is strongly in America's interest to prevent such a scenario."
June 8, 2008, to AIPAC: "The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.... Finally, let there be no doubt: I will always keep the threat of military action on the table to defend our security and our ally Israel."
October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table,"
November 7, 2008, press conference: "Iran's development of a nuclear weapon, I believe, is unacceptable. And we have to mount an international effort to prevent that from happening."
February 27, 2009, speech at Camp Lejeune: "(W)e are focusing on al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan; developing a strategy to use all elements of American power to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon; and actively seeking a lasting peace between Israel and the Arab world."
January 27, 2010, State of the Union address: "And as Iran's leaders continue to ignore their obligations, there should be no doubt: They, too, will face growing consequences. That is a promise."
July 1, /2010, at the signing of the Iran Sanctions Act: "There should be no doubt -- the United States and the international community are determined to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons."
May 19, 2011, speech on the Middle East: "Now, our opposition to Iran's intolerance and Iran's repressive measures, as well as its illicit nuclear program and its support of terror, is well known."
May 22, 2011, in an address to AIPAC: "You also see our commitment to our shared security in our determination to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.... So let me be absolutely clear -- we remain committed to preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons."
October 13,2011, press conference after meeting with South Korean president:"Now, we don't take any options off the table in terms of how we operate with Iran."
November 14, 2011, press conference: "So what I did was to speak with President Medvedev, as well as President Hu, and all three of us entirely agree on the objective, which is making sure that Iran does not weaponize nuclear power and that we don't trigger a nuclear arms race in the region. That's in the interests of all of us... I have said repeatedly and I will say it today, we are not taking any options off the table, because it's my firm belief that an Iran with a nuclear weapon would pose a security threat not only to the region but also to the United States."
December 8, 2011, press conference: (In response to question about pressuring Iran): "No options off the table means I'm considering all options."
December 16, 2011, speech to the General Assembly of the Union for Reform Judaism: "Another grave concern -- and a threat to the security of Israel, the United States and the world -- is Iran's nuclear program. And that's why our policy has been absolutely clear: We are determined to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons...and that's why, rest assured, we will take no options off the table. We have been clear."
January 24, 2012, State of the Union address: "Let there be no doubt: America is determined to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, and I will take no options off the table to achieve that goal."
March 2, 2012, interview with Goldblog: "I... don't, as a matter of sound policy, go around advertising exactly what our intentions are. But I think both the Iranian and the Israeli governments recognize that when the United States says it is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, we mean what we say."
March 4, 2012, speech to AIPAC: "I have said that when it comes to preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, I will take no options off the table, and I mean what I say That includes all elements of American power: A political effort aimed at isolating Iran; a diplomatic effort to sustain our coalition and ensure that the Iranian program is monitored; an economic effort that imposes crippling sanctions; and, yes, a military effort to be prepared for any contingency."
March 5, 2012, remarks after meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu: "... I reserve all options, and my policy here is not going to be one of containment. My policy is prevention of Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. And as I indicated yesterday in my speech, when I say all options are at the table, I mean it."
March 6, 2012, press conference: "And what I have said is, is that we will not countenance Iran getting a nuclear weapon. My policy is not containment; my policy is to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon -- because if they get a nuclear weapon that could trigger an arms race in the region, it would undermine our non-proliferation goals, it could potentially fall into the hands of terrorists.
March 14, 2012, remarks after meeting with David Cameron: "...And as I said in a speech just a couple of weeks ago, I am determined not simply to contain Iran that is in possession of a nuclear weapon; I am determined to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon -- in part for the reasons that David mentioned... We will do everything we can to resolve this diplomatically, but ultimately, we've got to have somebody on the other side of the table who's taking this seriously."
September 25, 2012, speech to the United Nations General Assembly: "Make no mistake: A nuclear-armed Iran is not a challenge that can be contained...the United States will do what we must to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon."
Obama s Crystal-Clear Promise to Stop Iran From Getting a Nuclear Weapon - The Atlantic
Color me surprised
Iran has the stockpiles now, Republicans want them to keep them
