why didnt the right do this when Bush was president?

[The Infidel]

the irony of this post can not be understated....

The exact reason I refuse to participate in ANY debate with that fucking retarded fool.

Lol, debate? Every single person understands they are not entering this or any TM thread for "debate" with TM, it's just the boards as a whole taking out some comedy relief on the biggest hyper partisan troll here.

Best part is TM seems utterly oblivious to how big of a joke they are on these and probably any forums. Honestly, can anyone here name someone on the internet they have met that repeatedly owns themselves with hypocrisy and irony in any given single thread they start or post in?

I mean we have TM defending bail outs for the rich now... We have TM as pro war as the most pro war Bush bots were at their height.

Damn, I owe you some reppage

 

[daveman]

U.S. nuclear arsenal is ready for overhaul - The Washington Post

The need to spend heavily to modernize the nation’s shrinking nuclear stockpile has been apparent for at least two decades. President George H.W. Bush reduced the stockpile by nearly 40 percent and imposed a ban on nuclear testing. President Bill Clinton extended the ban while reaffirming the importance of maintaining the arsenal’s safety and performance.

President George W. Bush came into office in 2001 planning to shrink and modernize the vast and deteriorating nuclear complex. Although he cut the stockpile by almost 50 percent and made some progress on renovating the complex, the effort was largely derailed by the costs and complications of two wars.​

You just make sure you don't mention the last two GOP presidents have reduced the stockpile and Clinton didn't.

While the administration was surprised by the state of the stockpile, the decision to spend heavily on modernization was also driven by a deal cut with Senate Republicans in late 2010. As part of negotiations to win ratification of the New START accord and reduce the nuclear weapons maintained by the United States and Russia, the administration agreed to increase money for modernizing the nuclear-weapons complex. Some Republicans say the administration isn’t spending enough.​

Oh, look: Obama didn't want to spend much on the modernization -- and some say he's still not spending enough.

Much of the blame for the soaring costs has fallen on the National Nuclear Security Administration, the division of the Department of Energy responsible for managing and modernizing the nuclear stockpile. For years, the Government Accountability Office, the Pentagon and some lawmakers have cited the NNSA for chronic poor planning and bad management. The GAO has had the NNSA on its “high-risk list” for fraud, waste and abuse in contracting and management since 1990.

Government reports show that the NNSA has blown budgets across the board. For instance, the projected cost of a new weapons conversion facility at the DOE’s Savannah River Site in South Carolina rose to $5 billion from $1.4 billion. It was eventually scrapped — after $700 million in planning costs. The cost of building a new fuel fabrication facility at Savannah River also has tripled to $5 billion, and it is scheduled to open in 2016, a decade late.​

Oh, look: Government inefficiency and incompetence. But that's the GOP's fault. Somehow. It just is.

Right, TM?

The nuclear arsenal has not entirely escaped cuts. To comply with the new Budget Control Act spending limits, the NNSA decided this year that it could not afford to replace both the crumbling plutonium testing facility at Los Alamos for $6 billion and the deteriorating uranium processing facility in Building 9212 at Oak Ridge for $6.5 billion.

The NNSA chose to rehab Building 9212 because there was no alternative site where the critical work carried out there could be performed.

So, after 250 contractors moved into Los Alamos last year and tractors dug out 160,000 cubic feet of volcanic tuff rock from the side of a hill, NNSA and the administration decided that building a new plutonium-testing site would be delayed five years. The crews stopped work. The tractors were idled. A new reality sank in.​

Oh, spending cuts mandated by the Budget Control Act that Obama signed?

How is that the GOP's fault, again?


As usual, TM tells only part of the story. Lying by omission.

TM, why are you pretending this post doesn't exist?

Oh, yeah -- because you can't counter it.

 

[Yurt]

TM will ignore your facts and the truth

 

[Harry Dresden]

the Obama administration is overseeing the gargantuan task of modernizing the nuclear arsenal to keep it safe and reliable.

from the article you lying sacks of pig shit.


Its being done.

from the article you lying sacks of pig shit.

......which sack is yours?.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I see TruthMocker is on another one of her MediaMatters rants again. How dull.

when i first saw this it seemed she was conversing with herself.....and no doubt telling herself ....lies.....

 

[Peach]

Ill tell you why.

becuase you were on a tax cut frenzy and didnt plan or think ahead.

You instead spent the budget surplus and then let us be hit on our own soil and then lied us into a war before you crashed the entire world economy.


You guys just cant run things like adults

TM, why repeat the obvious? Handing hundreds of billions to MULTInationals was more important than the arsenal, al Qaeda, or US lives, OBVIOUSLY.

 

[Harry Dresden]

U.S. nuclear arsenal is ready for overhaul - The Washington Post

You guys love your nukes.


you talk of nuking people we are having problems with.


But taking care of things like adults seems to be not part of your world veiw.


Why was this NOT modernized by Bush back when he was left a budget surplus?

what are you suggesting little boy?

see you peoples lies are transparent.


this should have been done long ago and not one republican ever complained it wasnt being done.

why?

Holy hot damn woman... Please tell me the wall sockets don't talk to you.

Edit: Over 30 posts and half of them are yours. In a row. Relax... take the medication the nice doctor gave you. BREATH.

.....she likes discussing shit with herself......if she had some creditability and some respect.....it might be better for her with her threads.....but she doesnt....so it is just becomes a joke fest.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

brillent


now why was our nuclear arsenal not maintained under Bush?

why was it not maintained under Clinton?......and dont tell me it was.....the head of the agency said he hasnt seen this type of thing in 20 years.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

it took a black man to clean your much waved gun?


Why did you never want your gun cleaned before?

here we go.....race is always mentioned by you.....why is that?....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ill tell you why.

becuase you were on a tax cut frenzy and didnt plan or think ahead.

You instead spent the budget surplus and then let us be hit on our own soil and then lied us into a war before you crashed the entire world economy.


You guys just cant run things like adults

TM, why repeat the obvious? Handing hundreds of billions to MULTInationals was more important than the arsenal, al Qaeda, or US lives, OBVIOUSLY.

Multinationals aren't going to refurbish these nukes?
Who is, a Mom & Pop operation? LOL!

 

[squeeze berry]

we always knew that liberalism was psychosis. Now we have proof.

 

[WillowTree]

Screw the roads and bridges! Hidden accounts in the Cayman Islands and Bahamas means NOT paying for those. So does hidden tax returns. Paying taxes is for the " little people." "You people" are NOT getting any more tax returns!

Regards from Rosie

Gasoline taxes are supposed to pay for those. What do you suppose has happened to all the gasoline tax money? huh?

 

[Harry Dresden]

U.S. nuclear arsenal is ready for overhaul - The Washington Post

The need to spend heavily to modernize the nation’s shrinking nuclear stockpile has been apparent for at least two decades. President George H.W. Bush reduced the stockpile by nearly 40 percent and imposed a ban on nuclear testing. President Bill Clinton extended the ban while reaffirming the importance of maintaining the arsenal’s safety and performance.

President George W. Bush came into office in 2001 planning to shrink and modernize the vast and deteriorating nuclear complex. Although he cut the stockpile by almost 50 percent and made some progress on renovating the complex, the effort was largely derailed by the costs and complications of two wars.​

You just make sure you don't mention the last two GOP presidents have reduced the stockpile and Clinton didn't.

While the administration was surprised by the state of the stockpile, the decision to spend heavily on modernization was also driven by a deal cut with Senate Republicans in late 2010. As part of negotiations to win ratification of the New START accord and reduce the nuclear weapons maintained by the United States and Russia, the administration agreed to increase money for modernizing the nuclear-weapons complex. Some Republicans say the administration isn’t spending enough.​

Oh, look: Obama didn't want to spend much on the modernization -- and some say he's still not spending enough.

Much of the blame for the soaring costs has fallen on the National Nuclear Security Administration, the division of the Department of Energy responsible for managing and modernizing the nuclear stockpile. For years, the Government Accountability Office, the Pentagon and some lawmakers have cited the NNSA for chronic poor planning and bad management. The GAO has had the NNSA on its “high-risk list” for fraud, waste and abuse in contracting and management since 1990.

Government reports show that the NNSA has blown budgets across the board. For instance, the projected cost of a new weapons conversion facility at the DOE’s Savannah River Site in South Carolina rose to $5 billion from $1.4 billion. It was eventually scrapped — after $700 million in planning costs. The cost of building a new fuel fabrication facility at Savannah River also has tripled to $5 billion, and it is scheduled to open in 2016, a decade late.​

Oh, look: Government inefficiency and incompetence. But that's the GOP's fault. Somehow. It just is.

Right, TM?

The nuclear arsenal has not entirely escaped cuts. To comply with the new Budget Control Act spending limits, the NNSA decided this year that it could not afford to replace both the crumbling plutonium testing facility at Los Alamos for $6 billion and the deteriorating uranium processing facility in Building 9212 at Oak Ridge for $6.5 billion.

The NNSA chose to rehab Building 9212 because there was no alternative site where the critical work carried out there could be performed.

So, after 250 contractors moved into Los Alamos last year and tractors dug out 160,000 cubic feet of volcanic tuff rock from the side of a hill, NNSA and the administration decided that building a new plutonium-testing site would be delayed five years. The crews stopped work. The tractors were idled. A new reality sank in.​

Oh, spending cuts mandated by the Budget Control Act that Obama signed?

How is that the GOP's fault, again?


As usual, TM tells only part of the story. Lying by omission.

TM, why are you pretending this post doesn't exist?

Oh, yeah -- because you can't counter it.

i think she finally read her own link.....and had to ask someone how long is 2 decades.....when she was told.....it was like ...."oh shit....do i look stupid........i better slink out of here"....

 

[Billo_Really]

Heres a clue for you cons.


When you dont maintain your house it falls appart.


Try to face the real facts of the world that adults face.


You have to pay taxes if you want a modern country capable of providing society with a decent level of functionability

Asking cons to act like adults?

Oh, c'mon!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Heres a clue for you cons.


When you dont maintain your house it falls appart.


Try to face the real facts of the world that adults face.


You have to pay taxes if you want a modern country capable of providing society with a decent level of functionability

Asking cons to act like adults?

Oh, c'mon!

I know, adults laugh when little kids talk like that.

 

[freedombecki]

what lie you fucking idiot?

Bush refused to maintain the arsenal unless he was allowed to buy more

"Lair" is a place where an animal lies. Your lair is where you lie in wait for some dupe to fall into your trap.

You have a reputation for laying in wait to trap people and I can't help you out of it.

Gee, TM, thanks for saying so, but at least a fucking idiot gets some wild, fun, free, exciting and riveting pleasure out of it.

There's nothing pleasurable about your lair.

you get trapped by facts.

that means you dont use them much.

I can see why you think FACTS are a trap.

Thank you for the compliment though.

You just admitted how effective I am at trapping you into seeing reality by forcing facts on you

Oh, my. Still confused, aren't you. You think anything you care to say or believe is a fact.

It isn't.

 

[freedombecki]

Bush spent way, way too much.
Obama spends more.
We need to cut spending now.

only if you want to see the economy crash again

I don't get it... Did Obama and Dems give mass "tax credits" in the stimulus and extend the Bush era tax cuts or did they not? Did Obama run the anual deficit to around 1.5 trillion with Dems or did he not?

Pretty much destroyed 90% of everything TM ever talks about.
Bush was spending, he did TARP and stimulus... Yet the economy crahsed... So did Obama nd the economy is still crashing. Crashing so bad Obama has done 3 stimulus in 1 term as President...

And I hear he wants another quickie stimulus package before the election, threatening his base that Republicans will destroy the economy if he doesn't get it. What do you do?

 

[daveman]

I see TruthMocker is on another one of her MediaMatters rants again. How dull.

when i first saw this it seemed she was conversing with herself.....and no doubt telling herself ....lies.....

She's a perfect storm of dishonesty and gullibility: She tells herself lies and believes them.

 

[daveman]

The need to spend heavily to modernize the nation’s shrinking nuclear stockpile has been apparent for at least two decades. President George H.W. Bush reduced the stockpile by nearly 40 percent and imposed a ban on nuclear testing. President Bill Clinton extended the ban while reaffirming the importance of maintaining the arsenal’s safety and performance.

President George W. Bush came into office in 2001 planning to shrink and modernize the vast and deteriorating nuclear complex. Although he cut the stockpile by almost 50 percent and made some progress on renovating the complex, the effort was largely derailed by the costs and complications of two wars.​

You just make sure you don't mention the last two GOP presidents have reduced the stockpile and Clinton didn't.

While the administration was surprised by the state of the stockpile, the decision to spend heavily on modernization was also driven by a deal cut with Senate Republicans in late 2010. As part of negotiations to win ratification of the New START accord and reduce the nuclear weapons maintained by the United States and Russia, the administration agreed to increase money for modernizing the nuclear-weapons complex. Some Republicans say the administration isn’t spending enough.​

Oh, look: Obama didn't want to spend much on the modernization -- and some say he's still not spending enough.

Much of the blame for the soaring costs has fallen on the National Nuclear Security Administration, the division of the Department of Energy responsible for managing and modernizing the nuclear stockpile. For years, the Government Accountability Office, the Pentagon and some lawmakers have cited the NNSA for chronic poor planning and bad management. The GAO has had the NNSA on its “high-risk list” for fraud, waste and abuse in contracting and management since 1990.

Government reports show that the NNSA has blown budgets across the board. For instance, the projected cost of a new weapons conversion facility at the DOE’s Savannah River Site in South Carolina rose to $5 billion from $1.4 billion. It was eventually scrapped — after $700 million in planning costs. The cost of building a new fuel fabrication facility at Savannah River also has tripled to $5 billion, and it is scheduled to open in 2016, a decade late.​

Oh, look: Government inefficiency and incompetence. But that's the GOP's fault. Somehow. It just is.

Right, TM?

The nuclear arsenal has not entirely escaped cuts. To comply with the new Budget Control Act spending limits, the NNSA decided this year that it could not afford to replace both the crumbling plutonium testing facility at Los Alamos for $6 billion and the deteriorating uranium processing facility in Building 9212 at Oak Ridge for $6.5 billion.

The NNSA chose to rehab Building 9212 because there was no alternative site where the critical work carried out there could be performed.

So, after 250 contractors moved into Los Alamos last year and tractors dug out 160,000 cubic feet of volcanic tuff rock from the side of a hill, NNSA and the administration decided that building a new plutonium-testing site would be delayed five years. The crews stopped work. The tractors were idled. A new reality sank in.​

Oh, spending cuts mandated by the Budget Control Act that Obama signed?

How is that the GOP's fault, again?


As usual, TM tells only part of the story. Lying by omission.

TM, why are you pretending this post doesn't exist?

Oh, yeah -- because you can't counter it.

i think she finally read her own link.....and had to ask someone how long is 2 decades.....when she was told.....it was like ...."oh shit....do i look stupid........i better slink out of here"....

TM, admit she was wrong?

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[Yurt]

i'm always amazed at how many people say that truthmatters lies