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Thanks....so i think I get it now
We elect people at the local, state and federal level to represent us. Those elected officials get to decide what is best for the society as a whole. If we are not happy with what they did, we get to elect someone else.
Is that what the Constitution is all about??
Unfortunately, that's the way government works. Lawmakers trade favors all the time to get their bills passed.
And the "CF" isn't for health care, it's for health insurance. If the insurance companies policed themselves a little better, there'd be no need for additional regulation.
If you want to talk about a REAL CF, let's talk the Iraq war. How much has that little gem cost us, in money and in lives?
Well, by all means let the insurance companies, car manufacturers, pharmaceutical companies, etc. run rampant without any regulation. Jeez....we have regulation BECAUSE of the past behaviors of for-profit companies.
And by the way, I work for a local government and I see horse-trading going on all the time, on both sides of the aisle. It's the way government is run and it SUCKS.
Politifact.com looked at the number Obama was using over the summer - "Nearly 46 million Americans don't have health insurance coverage today." This is based on 2007 census data. Politifact says that 9.7 million are non-citizens, which brings the number down to about 36 million. Because the census doesn't ask whether you're an illegal immigrant or not, Politifact asked the Pew Hispanic Center for estimated numbers of uninsured illegal immigrants - that number is 6.8 million, bringing the number of uninsured, legal, flag-wavin' American citizens to 29.2 million.
To recap:
46 million uninsured, from census data
- 9.7 million uninsured non-Americans
- 6.8 million uninsured illegal immigrants
= 29.5 million uninsured, legal Americans
We also have to consider that since the economy has gotten considerably worse since 2007, and many have lost their jobs and the insurance that goes along with it, the 29.5 m number is likely higher now.
Ahhhh...I see. What if we established health care for foreign citizens??
*head exploding*
There is NO ENUMERATED POWER for Congress to manage the healthcare needs of American citizens.
Well, by all means let the insurance companies, car manufacturers, pharmaceutical companies, etc. run rampant without any regulation. Jeez....we have regulation BECAUSE of the past behaviors of for-profit companies.
And by the way, I work for a local government and I see horse-trading going on all the time, on both sides of the aisle. It's the way government is run and it SUCKS.
Why can't we legislate an state level opt-out for S.S., medicade, and this healthcare program? People in states that do want these programs can elect to have them but people in states that don't want to participate in them can opt-out.
Why can't I opt out for paying for schools? My kids are grown
Why can't I opt out of Police and Fire protection? I never use them
Why can't I opt out of paying for troops in Iraq? I never supported that war
We live in a society. As part of a society, money is collected and used for the greater good. People elect Mayors, governors, congressmen and presidents to determine what the greater good is.
That is what happened last week
There is NO ENUMERATED POWER for Congress to manage the healthcare needs of American citizens.
Sure there is
- Congress is empowered to regulate comerce and Insurance companies are comerce
- Congress is empowered to act to benefit the General Welfare of its citizens
There is NO ENUMERATED POWER for Congress to manage the healthcare needs of American citizens.
Sure there is
- Congress is empowered to regulate comerce and Insurance companies are comerce
- Congress is empowered to act to benefit the General Welfare of its citizens
Why can't we legislate an state level opt-out for S.S., medicade, and this healthcare program? People in states that do want these programs can elect to have them but people in states that don't want to participate in them can opt-out.
From my latest Social Security statement of last summer, through 2008 I've paid an estimated $107,247 in Social Securities taxes and another $25,838 in taxes for Medicare. Additionally, my employers have matched that amount of dough and placed it into the system. Thus I'm not all that comfortable with any opt-out proposal that's on the basis of state. I would favor an opt-out choice by individual.
Why can't we legislate an state level opt-out for S.S., medicade, and this healthcare program? People in states that do want these programs can elect to have them but people in states that don't want to participate in them can opt-out.
From my latest Social Security statement of last summer, through 2008 I've paid an estimated $107,247 in Social Securities taxes and another $25,838 in taxes for Medicare. Additionally, my employers have matched that amount of dough and placed it into the system. Thus I'm not all that comfortable with any opt-out proposal that's on the basis of state. I would favor an opt-out choice by individual.
Why can't we legislate an state level opt-out for S.S., medicade, and this healthcare program? People in states that do want these programs can elect to have them but people in states that don't want to participate in them can opt-out.
From my latest Social Security statement of last summer, through 2008 I've paid an estimated $107,247 in Social Securities taxes and another $25,838 in taxes for Medicare. Additionally, my employers have matched that amount of dough and placed it into the system. Thus I'm not all that comfortable with any opt-out proposal that's on the basis of state. I would favor an opt-out choice by individual.
The tenth amendment actually gives you an opt-out since all powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved for the state and the PEOPLE.