Why can't we have an opt-out clause

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    Why can't we legislate an state level opt-out for S.S., medicade, and this healthcare program? People in states that do want these programs can elect to have them but people in states that don't want to participate in them can opt-out.
     
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    Opt out and then not pay and later move to a state that has not opted out and go on the draw?
     
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    Oh, just secede and get it over with already.
     
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    It can be available for citizens of that state only. Social Security can then be funded by your citizenship status of a state that participates in that. The same thing can be done for medicare and all that other stuff.
     
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    Well there kind of, sort of, is an "opt out" on the Individual Mandate... only it's not really an "opt out", it's more of a waiver :eusa_eh:... and you can only get it if you can make your version of Obamacare an economically superior one :rolleyes:... which ain't never gonna happen because the hoops you have to jump through in order to encompass the specific requirements of Obamacare have no basis in economic rationality.

    Oh... and if you miraculously find a way to do that, some bureaucrat can still deny your waiver, and even if you actually do get one... your state's citizens and employers are still going to have to pay for every other state to have it.

    What do you want to bet the Democrat Weasels in Washington all insist on the stump this summer that there's a real "opt out"???? :eusa_whistle:
     
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    Citizens of a state? Sounds like the former USSR.

    If the southern states opt out will all the retirees start moving to Canada?
     
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    The government cannot allow you to opt out because that would be tantamount to admitting that you can think for yourself.

    And admitting that people can actually make the best choices for themselves is antithetical to the Dimmy/Progressive credo
     
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    Despite your sarcasm I'm going to entertain this post. Most people won't opt out of those because of to many retirees and people that are already invested in those programs but people should have a choice. I don't see what is the big deal about a state opting out of something.
     
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    Why can't I opt out for paying for schools? My kids are grown
    Why can't I opt out of Police and Fire protection? I never use them
    Why can't I opt out of paying for troops in Iraq? I never supported that war

    We live in a society. As part of a society, money is collected and used for the greater good. People elect Mayors, governors, congressmen and presidents to determine what the greater good is.

    That is what happened last week
     
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    by golly, I think yer on to something. It's called states rights..
     

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