Zone1 Why Black Lives still Matter

[AzogtheDefiler]

Unlike the Conservatives retort, Black Lives Matter is not about black lives mattering and white lives do not.

BLM has always been about police abuse without consequence, Police coverups, abuse of unarmed black suspects who are not resisting.

In Mississippi we have another case of police terrorizing black suspects and covering it up.

Six Mississippi Law Enforcement Officers Plead Guilty to Torturing and Abusing Two Black Men

Two federal criminal informations were unsealed today charging six former Mississippi law enforcement officers with a total of 16 felonies stemming from the torture and physical abuse of three Rankin County residents in two separate unrelated incidents. Those 16 felonies include civil rights...

www.justice.gov

Black Males

6% of the US population
50% of crimes

So yes there will be more police interaction with black males on a % level. It’s just math. I know I know, math is racist.

The reason for the stat isn’t their skin color. But due to single parent homes. 75% of the aforementioned black males grow up in a single parent household. Stats also reveal that black males with two parents are less likely to commit crimes than white males with one parent.

The Democratic Party and their zealot fan base (you) want to make it about race and racism of the GOP in order to keep garnering 90% or so of the black vote. You call any black person who attacks this scheme as a traitor — Candace Owens, Byron Donalds, Tim Scott, John James to name a select few.

BLM was a money thieving organization. And you still support it. Shows real character…

How are you not embarrassed?

Black Lives Matter leader accused of stealing $10 million from organization

Shalomyah Bowers is called a 'rogue administrator, a middle man turned usurper' in a suit filed in L.A. County Superior Court. He denies all claims.

www.latimes.com

BLM finances under fire: Only 33% of donations given to charities as execs paid millions

Black Lives Matter's finances are under scrutiny once again, as tax documents show the nonprofit is on the brink of bankruptcy.

wpde.com

 

[rightwinger]

Black Males

6% of the US population
50% of crimes

So yes there will be more police interaction with black males on a % level. It’s just math. I know I know, math is racist.

The reason for the stat isn’t their skin color. But due to single parent homes. 75% of the aforementioned black males grow up in a single parent household. Stats also reveal that black males with two parents are less likely to commit crimes than white males with one parent.

The Democratic Party and their zealot fan base (you) want to make it about race and racism of the GOP in order to keep garnering 90% or so of the black vote. You call any black person who attacks this scheme as a traitor — Candace Owens, Byron Donalds, Tim Scott, John James to name a select few.

BLM was a money thieving organization. And you still support it. Shows real character…

How are you not embarrassed?

Black Lives Matter leader accused of stealing $10 million from organization

Shalomyah Bowers is called a 'rogue administrator, a middle man turned usurper' in a suit filed in L.A. County Superior Court. He denies all claims.

www.latimes.com

Your math does nothing to justify police abuse of suspects, planting evidence, covering up for each other and avoiding prosecution.

That is the reason BLM was formed.
Also why their complaints about police are still valid

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yup. And the BLM terrorist group orchestrated a nation-wide, months-long violent riot based on the lie that George Floyd’s death was another racist attack.

Precisely.
The left media narrative, and the way BLM has made a hero out of a terrible man shows exactly how the whole movement is based on false narratives and outright lies.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Your math does nothing to justify police abuse of suspects, planting evidence, covering up for each other and avoiding prosecution.

That is the reason BLM was formed.
Also why their complaints about police are still valid

You take a select few cases and make it the norm, that’s lazy debating. It’s like arguing that the NBA is unfair because everyone is over 7’0 tall. No just a select few are. Police officers aren’t all bad just a select few are.

BLM was formed to steal money by the founders and that’s exactly what happened. It was disguised as social justice. But caused havoc and chaos resulting in the black community telling you white radical liberals to stop speaking for them.

Oakland NAACP leaders call for state of EMERGENCY over soaring crime

Oakland NAACP leaders have called for a state of emergency over soaring crime in the area.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[wamose]

In those cases the perpetrator is arrested and imprisoned.
The person who ambushes police does not get to write the report, plant evidence or cover up.

Why we need to hold police to a higher standard

Not true. We need equality. We need to hold EVERYONE to the same standard. CEOs, police, bums, movie stars, politicians and average Joes are all entitled to equal treatment under the law. That means that police, priests and politicians get the same punishment as everyone else.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not true. We need equality. We need to hold EVERYONE to the same standard. CEOs, police, bums, movie stars, politicians and average Joes are all entitled to equal treatment under the law. That means that police, priests and politicians get the same punishment as everyone else.

rightwinger is a far left zealot living off a Govt pension. He sits in some lake house in NY and types nonsense. Defending BLM is like defending Fauci. It shows ignorance and cowardice given all the data we now have.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Guess what?

Black Lives Matter was right
Rampant police abuse is still ongoing. You would think after the George Floyd debacle that police would get the message.
You have to follow the law

But here we still have Police torturing two suspects for hours and then creating a cover story.

When two black suspects show up telling what those police did to them……nobody believed them

No
Police abuse is not "rampant". It is isolated and rare given the shear number of police actions across the nation on any given day. Literally millions of interactions a week, with a case of clear abuse sprinkled here and there with near or equal culpability by the criminal themselves.
Your example is the typical way leftist approach a subject they want to virtue signal over - pick the absolute worst example you can find - then attempt to make that example of what happens everyday.
Ridiculous.
And of course no one wanted to believe the suspects, what normal person would?? What they did was so over the top and extraordinary - any normal person would at first think it was an exaggeration.

 

[rightwinger]

You take a select few cases and make it the norm, that’s lazy debating

And that is always the argument…..Pay no attention
This is an isolated case
Police no longer act like that

We have seen that same argument since Rodney King

Not just that some Policeman loses his temper and beats an unarmed suspect…….but that police tolerate such abuse, cover up for each other, lie about the circumstances


You would think that with recent high profile cases, that police would get the message. These rogue cops reflect badly on all officers and make your job harder


But these cases keep showing up.

 

[rightwinger]

rightwinger is a far left zealot living off a Govt pension. He sits in some lake house in NY and types nonsense. Defending BLM is like defending Fauci. It shows ignorance and cowardice given all the data we now have.

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[iamwhatiseem]

This thread is a prime example of the destructiveness and divisiveness of the leftist virtue signaling.
First - paint your adversary as evil and terrible
Second - produce an example that is the worst possible example you can find, and attempt to paint that as the norm.
Third - Anyone who disagrees is an evil person.

Grow up.

 

[rightwinger]

No
Police abuse is not "rampant". It is isolated and rare given the shear number of police actions across the nation on any given day. Literally millions of interactions a week, with a case of clear abuse sprinkled here and there with near or equal culpability by the criminal themselves.
Your example is the typical way leftist approach a subject they want to virtue signal over - pick the absolute worst example you can find - then attempt to make that example of what happens everyday.
Ridiculous.
And of course no one wanted to believe the suspects, what normal person would?? What they did was so over the top and extraordinary - any normal person would at first think it was an exaggeration.

Very true..

”Most” Police are honest and diligent in their job.
Nobody is complaining about them.

In this case, the torture happened in January and nobody in the department followed up on the complaints of the suspects. Nobody in the department reported on the actions of the Goon Squad.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Very true..

”Most” Police are honest and diligent in their job.
Nobody is complaining about them.

In this case, the torture happened in January and nobody in the department followed up on the complaints of the suspects. Nobody in the department reported on the actions of the Goon Squad.

And?
It was wrong.
Wrong things happen everyday all over the world.
That is not indicative of a wide spread-systematic problem. At all.
What was done here is demonic. Nothing whatsoever representative of anything - AT ALL - except the single occurrence itself.
Having said that - this kind of behavior is played out on the streets of inner cities by thugs 1000 times more than by police. It isn't even close. But of course, the left and their media has absolutely no interest whatsoever in those black lives. ZERO.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

But we obviously need an organization promoting holding police accountable for their actions.

If you actually believed this, you would not be supporting an organization that only deals with the response to black criminality.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If you actually believed this, you would not be supporting an organization that only deals with the response to black criminality.

Instead of BlackLivesMatter - it should be BlackLiesMatter. At least then it would be honest.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Instead of BlackLivesMatter - it should be BlackLiesMatter. At least then it would be honest.

Yep.


.....and it is all part of a greater narrative being drummed home by our dishonest media, which, in turn, serves interests farther up the food chain.

 

[Lisa558]

And that is always the argument…..Pay no attention
This is an isolated case
Police no longer act like that

We have seen that same argument since Rodney King

Not just that some Policeman loses his temper and beats an unarmed suspect…….but that police tolerate such abuse, cover up for each other, lie about the circumstances


You would think that with recent high profile cases, that police would get the message. These rogue cops reflect badly on all officers and make your job harder


But these cases keep showing up.

Half a dozen out of 50 million. The police should be applauded for the restraint they show dealing with belligerent, defiant, drugged thugs who are often threatening their own lives.

 

[rightwinger]

Half a dozen out of 50 million. The police should be applauded for the restraint they show dealing with belligerent, defiant, drugged thugs who are often threatening their own lives.

I understand how an officer can lose control in a confrontation with a suspect

What I don’t understand is

Beating a suspect who is handcuffed
Beating someone who is not resisting
Other officers participating or standing by while it happens s happening
Other officers not reporting the violation

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

And that is always the argument…..Pay no attention
This is an isolated case
Police no longer act like that

We have seen that same argument since Rodney King

Not just that some Policeman loses his temper and beats an unarmed suspect…….but that police tolerate such abuse, cover up for each other, lie about the circumstances


You would think that with recent high profile cases, that police would get the message. These rogue cops reflect badly on all officers and make your job harder


But these cases keep showing up.

That’s always the debate because it’s the truth. Steph Curry is an elite three point shooter doesn’t mean every NBA player can do that. This has been your playbook your entire time on this board. You take rare instances and spread them as the norm. You also cut original posts as you don’t possess the wherewithal to respond intelligently. This is case in point. Why not address the rest of my retort? Why cherry-pick?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

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Do you need me to translate? Your posts reflect that you don’t live in the real world. Typical out of touch liberal zealot. Do you need more clarity?

 

[rightwinger]

If you actually believed this, you would not be supporting an organization that only deals with the response to black criminality.

Nobody is defending black criminality

Only their rights to be treated in accordance with the law