Why are we still talking about this stupid wall idea?

[OKTexas]

Soft hell, you applauded your dear leader thumbing his nose at the law and the Constitution and you still are. It's time for the 26 States to file that suit against DACA. Sessions won't defend it and the States will get a default judgment.


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Add Amicus Curiae to your vocabulary, you sound stupid.

Can you say irrelevant? If Sessions tells the court the government agrees the program is unconstitutional, game over. It's sister program, DAPA has already been declared unconstitutional, the court would have no choice but to enter a judgment for the States.


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Wrong wrong wrong.

The Supreme court doesn't rely on any one plaintiff or any one defendant to make constitutional arguments. They solicit briefs from parties with an interest, but no standing. Amicus briefs are often cited in the courts decisions, so to put it simply, you are completely wrong.

It will be settled in the district court with no appeals, SCOTUS will never see it.


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[toomuchtime_]

Arrests along Mexico border drop sharply under Trump, new statistics show

So maybe he is smarter than the general and border patrol agents.

As I pointed out. there are fewer border patrol agents to make arrests.

According to the Washington Post, there are fewer arrests because there are fewer attempts to cross because of Trump's tough talk and tough actions.

 

[radical right]

It will be settled in the district court with no appeals, SCOTUS will never see it.


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You can't be that stupid. If DACA is settled in district court, it only covers that district, and no others.

 

[Billy000]

Soft hell, you applauded your dear leader thumbing his nose at the law and the Constitution and you still are. It's time for the 26 States to file that suit against DACA. Sessions won't defend it and the States will get a default judgment.


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Add Amicus Curiae to your vocabulary, you sound stupid.

Can you say irrelevant? If Sessions tells the court the government agrees the program is unconstitutional, game over. It's sister program, DAPA has already been declared unconstitutional, the court would have no choice but to enter a judgment for the States.


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Wrong wrong wrong.

The Supreme court doesn't rely on any one plaintiff or any one defendant to make constitutional arguments. They solicit briefs from parties with an interest, but no standing. Amicus briefs are often cited in the courts decisions, so to put it simply, you are completely wrong.

It will be settled in the district court with no appeals, SCOTUS will never see it.


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lol do you really not understand how our court system works? Obviously someone can choose to appeal it.

 

[OKTexas]

“We don’t need a great wall of the United States. We do not need 2,000 miles of border wall. I will tell you, however, that a wall in strategic locations is absolutely necessary,” Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, said, ABC News reported.


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Damn Texaas, you gave me the very citation I was talking about.

The border patrol doesn't want Trumps wall, only Trump does.
The border patrol never asked for Trumps wall.
The border patrol asked for more agents, and Trump hasn't delivered. There are fewer agents now, than when Trump took office.

Trumps wall is across the whole border, their wall is in only strategic locations.

Thanks Texas.

Funny how you left this out of your cherry picked quotes.

Trump plans to use the border patrol recommendations.

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[Missourian]

Walls work. Interesting history lesson...

 

[radical right]

It will be settled in the district court with no appeals, SCOTUS will never see it.


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lol do you really not understand how our court system works? Obviously someone can choose to appeal it.

He is saying a plaintiff sued, saying Obama's DACA program was unconstitutional. He's saying that Sessions could effectively agree with the plaintiff in that case, and in that district court, and the case would be settled in favor of the plaintiff.

My point is that would also limit the scope of ruling. .

 

[radical right]

Trump plans to use the border patrol recommendations.

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Not all of them.

“We don’t need a great wall of the United States. We do not need 2,000 miles of border wall. I will tell you, however, that a wall in strategic locations is absolutely necessary,” Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, said, ABC News reported.

 

[OKTexas]

It will be settled in the district court with no appeals, SCOTUS will never see it.


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You can't be that stupid. If DACA is settled in district court, it only covers that district, and no others.

You might want to google sue and settle. Then you might get a freaking clue. Maobamas EPA just loved that shit.


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[OKTexas]

It will be settled in the district court with no appeals, SCOTUS will never see it.


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lol do you really not understand how our court system works? Obviously someone can choose to appeal it.

He is saying a plaintiff sued, saying Obama's DACA program was unconstitutional. He's saying that Sessions could effectively agree with the plaintiff in that case, and in that district court, and the case would be settled in favor of the plaintiff.

My point is that would also limit the scope of ruling. .

And you would be wrong, see post 49.


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[OKTexas]

Trump plans to use the border patrol recommendations.

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Not all of them.

“We don’t need a great wall of the United States. We do not need 2,000 miles of border wall. I will tell you, however, that a wall in strategic locations is absolutely necessary,” Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, said, ABC News reported.

Not all of them are in charge.


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[radical right]

You can't be that stupid. If DACA is settled in district court, it only covers that district, and no others.

You might want to google sue and settle. Then you might get a freaking clue. Maobamas EPA just loved that shit.


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Again, thanks for the advice. When a suit is "settled" the court basically removes itself from the decision making process. They don't make a ruling except binding on the two parties and no others.

So the settlement doesn't even cover any other parties in the district, no less anywhere else in the USA. Effectively if Sessions settles at the district court level, no decision is made to the constitutionality of the law, but only the relief sought is granted.

 

[radical right]

“We don’t need a great wall of the United States. We do not need 2,000 miles of border wall. I will tell you, however, that a wall in strategic locations is absolutely necessary,” Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, said, ABC News reported.

Not all of them are in charge.
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You said Trump was following their recommendations.

Trump plans to use the border patrol recommendations.

But not all of them. The border patrol doesn't want Trumps wall.

 

[OKTexas]

You can't be that stupid. If DACA is settled in district court, it only covers that district, and no others.

You might want to google sue and settle. Then you might get a freaking clue. Maobamas EPA just loved that shit.


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Again, thanks for the advice. When a suit is "settled" the court basically removes itself from the decision making process. They don't make a ruling except binding on the two parties and no others.

So the settlement doesn't even cover any other parties in the district, no less anywhere else in the USA. Effectively if Sessions settles at the district court level, no decision is made to the constitutionality of the law, but only the relief sought is granted.

So you're telling me a district court judge couldn't possibly issue a TRO that extends nation wide? Would the supremes have to do that?


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[radical right]

So you're telling me a district court judge couldn't possibly issue a TRO that extends nation wide? Would the supremes have to do that?


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Not when both parties agree.

 

[OKTexas]

“We don’t need a great wall of the United States. We do not need 2,000 miles of border wall. I will tell you, however, that a wall in strategic locations is absolutely necessary,” Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, said, ABC News reported.

Not all of them are in charge.
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You said Trump was following their recommendations.

Trump plans to use the border patrol recommendations.

But not all of them. The border patrol doesn't want Trumps wall.

Feel free to keep lying, we're done.


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[OKTexas]

So you're telling me a district court judge couldn't possibly issue a TRO that extends nation wide? Would the supremes have to do that?


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Not when both parties agree.

Damn you're clueless, do you even know what a TRO is?


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[radical right]

Feel free to keep lying, we're done.


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NOTICE OF DISTRICT COURT RULING PURSUANT TO LIMITED REMAND Notice is hereby given that on , 20__, following a fairness hearing conducted pursuant to Rule 23(e)(2) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the United States District Court for the District of approved the parties' proposed settlement.

 

[radical right]

Damn you're clueless, do you even know what a TRO is?
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It's moot when both parties agree. The order is to force or prevent a partys action to prevent irreversible harm. If both parties agree to what should be done, no order will be given to make them do what they agreed to, unless there is a breech.

Until then the court washes its hands.

 

[OKTexas]

Damn you're clueless, do you even know what a TRO is?
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It's moot when both parties agree. The order is to force or prevent a partys action to prevent irreversible harm. If both parties agree to what should be done, no order will be given to make them do what they agreed to, unless there is a breech.

Until then the court washes its hands.

Nice deflection.

You claimed a district courts decisions are confined to that district, are you now saying you were wrong? If the federal government is the defendant and a district court issues a judgment against the defendant, is it binding on the whole federal government or just the parts within that district?


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