SniperFire
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In the modern era, Democrat Presidents are either One Termers or Impeached.
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As a young man in college I was not always the most diligent student. One weekend, near the end of term, was particularly eventful and I found myself on Monday morning sitting, looking at a Dynamics final and no memory of any of the fine formulas we had studied that semester. Then I remembered F=ma. From that kernel I was able to derive all of the formulas I needed and ended up doing pretty well. More importantly, I realized the importance of fundamental concepts; I found that if one has a good understanding of core principles the smaller details are easier to work out. This led me a few years ago to ask myself, aside from the individual policies which align my thinking with liberals; why am I a liberal?
After some consideration I arrived on four succinct statements, which I believe also gave me some insight to what motivates the other side.
I am a parent.
As a parent I will do anything within my power to advantage my child.
I am a citizen.
As a citizen I believe it is vitally important that we write rules that prevent that.
It is only natural that parents do all they can for their children, however as wealth accumulates this presents a threat to democracy. This is the threat that concerned Jefferson when he spoke of the need for inheritance taxes, not as a form of revenue but a means to protect the democracy from citizens that might become too powerful, and then threaten the will of the people. It is easy to see how this has become the case in America today.
The dangers of inherited wealth to our economy are not unlike monarchy to the health of any nation, when power is derived from birthright rather than ones labor it is more often foolishly applied. As more and more of our economy becomes inherited wealth it becomes more of a target for con men and less a tool for innovators. The worlds financial power has been diverted from improving the human condition into money making schemes designed to enrich those who create them.
I do have some specific suggestions that I feel would be helpful long term:
Public financing for public elections
Flat rate Social Security Tax, first dollar to last all forms of income
Index minimum wage to the average increase in CEO pay for the S&P 500
Thats about it, that shouldnt be too hard to do, right?
As a young man in college I was not always the most diligent student. One weekend, near the end of term, was particularly eventful and I found myself on Monday morning sitting, looking at a Dynamics final and no memory of any of the fine formulas we had studied that semester. Then I remembered F=ma. From that kernel I was able to derive all of the formulas I needed and ended up doing pretty well. More importantly, I realized the importance of fundamental concepts; I found that if one has a good understanding of core principles the smaller details are easier to work out. This led me a few years ago to ask myself, aside from the individual policies which align my thinking with liberals; why am I a liberal?
After some consideration I arrived on four succinct statements, which I believe also gave me some insight to what motivates the other side.
I am a parent.
As a parent I will do anything within my power to advantage my child.
I am a citizen.
As a citizen I believe it is vitally important that we write rules that prevent that.
It is only natural that parents do all they can for their children, however as wealth accumulates this presents a threat to democracy. This is the threat that concerned Jefferson when he spoke of the need for inheritance taxes, not as a form of revenue but a means to protect the democracy from citizens that might become too powerful, and then threaten the will of the people. It is easy to see how this has become the case in America today.
The dangers of inherited wealth to our economy are not unlike monarchy to the health of any nation, when power is derived from birthright rather than ones labor it is more often foolishly applied. As more and more of our economy becomes inherited wealth it becomes more of a target for con men and less a tool for innovators. The worlds financial power has been diverted from improving the human condition into money making schemes designed to enrich those who create them.
I do have some specific suggestions that I feel would be helpful long term:
Public financing for public elections
Flat rate Social Security Tax, first dollar to last all forms of income
Index minimum wage to the average increase in CEO pay for the S&P 500
Thats about it, that shouldnt be too hard to do, right?
Mr. Great Day. ... Why are you a liberal?
Well, I can only assume that, after all that has transpired under the guidance of our current liberal administration to splinter the country, that you haven't adequately informed yourself or just flat refuse to see what's going on around you. I must assume this otherwise I would think you to be an idiot. (Trying to give you the benefit of a doubt.)
I can't find that quote anywhere but I did find this attributed to Jefferson:It is only natural that parents do all they can for their children, however as wealth accumulates this presents a threat to democracy. This is the threat that concerned Jefferson when he spoke of the need for inheritance taxes, not as a form of revenue but a means to protect the democracy from citizens that might become too powerful, and then threaten the will of the people. It is easy to see how this has become the case in America today.
The Greatest Thomas Jefferson quotes
Not having a source kinda' blows up the OP's entire thread."To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have nDidnt anybody on this forum go to school? Or know how to read?
If the overgrown wealth of an individual be deemed dangerous to the State, the best corrective is the law of equal inheritance to all in equal degree; and the better, as this enforces a law of nature, while extra-taxation violates it. T. Jefferson 1816
The Jeffersonian Cyclopedia: A Comprehensive Collection of the Views of ... - Thomas Jefferson - Google Books
ot exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of associationthe guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it".
As a young man in college I was not always the most diligent student. One weekend, near the end of term, was particularly eventful and I found myself on Monday morning sitting, looking at a Dynamics final and no memory of any of the fine formulas we had studied that semester. Then I remembered F=ma. From that kernel I was able to derive all of the formulas I needed and ended up doing pretty well. More importantly, I realized the importance of fundamental concepts; I found that if one has a good understanding of core principles the smaller details are easier to work out. This led me a few years ago to ask myself, aside from the individual policies which align my thinking with liberals; why am I a liberal?
After some consideration I arrived on four succinct statements, which I believe also gave me some insight to what motivates the other side.
I am a parent.
As a parent I will do anything within my power to advantage my child.
I am a citizen.
As a citizen I believe it is vitally important that we write rules that prevent that.
It is only natural that parents do all they can for their children, however as wealth accumulates this presents a threat to democracy. This is the threat that concerned Jefferson when he spoke of the need for inheritance taxes, not as a form of revenue but a means to protect the democracy from citizens that might become too powerful, and then threaten the will of the people. It is easy to see how this has become the case in America today.
The dangers of inherited wealth to our economy are not unlike monarchy to the health of any nation, when power is derived from birthright rather than ones labor it is more often foolishly applied. As more and more of our economy becomes inherited wealth it becomes more of a target for con men and less a tool for innovators. The worlds financial power has been diverted from improving the human condition into money making schemes designed to enrich those who create them.
I do have some specific suggestions that I feel would be helpful long term:
Public financing for public elections
Flat rate Social Security Tax, first dollar to last all forms of income
Index minimum wage to the average increase in CEO pay for the S&P 500
Thats about it, that shouldnt be too hard to do, right?
As I read American history I have the feeling that while money was of great importance to the founders, the future of America was almost of equal importance. The leaders of early America built for the future and had some pretty great visions of that future; today as I read some of these posts, it all seems to be about money, with few other visions.
As I read American history I have the feeling that while money was of great importance to the founders, the future of America was almost of equal importance. The leaders of early America built for the future and had some pretty great visions of that future; today as I read some of these posts, it all seems to be about money, with few other visions.
the founders were wealthy men that went poor to build this country, money was the means and sacrifice for what we have today, the libs just seem to hate everything about this country and to msot of them this country cant do enough for them until its bankrupt and ruined. Sorry thats how i feel and thats what ive seen from them.
As a young man in college I was not always the most diligent student. One weekend, near the end of term, was particularly eventful and I found myself on Monday morning sitting, looking at a Dynamics final and no memory of any of the fine formulas we had studied that semester. Then I remembered F=ma. From that kernel I was able to derive all of the formulas I needed and ended up doing pretty well. More importantly, I realized the importance of fundamental concepts; I found that if one has a good understanding of core principles the smaller details are easier to work out. This led me a few years ago to ask myself, aside from the individual policies which align my thinking with liberals; why am I a liberal?
After some consideration I arrived on four succinct statements, which I believe also gave me some insight to what motivates the other side.
I am a parent.
As a parent I will do anything within my power to advantage my child.
I am a citizen.
As a citizen I believe it is vitally important that we write rules that prevent that.
It is only natural that parents do all they can for their children, however as wealth accumulates this presents a threat to democracy. This is the threat that concerned Jefferson when he spoke of the need for inheritance taxes, not as a form of revenue but a means to protect the democracy from citizens that might become too powerful, and then threaten the will of the people. It is easy to see how this has become the case in America today.
The dangers of inherited wealth to our economy are not unlike monarchy to the health of any nation, when power is derived from birthright rather than ones labor it is more often foolishly applied. As more and more of our economy becomes inherited wealth it becomes more of a target for con men and less a tool for innovators. The worlds financial power has been diverted from improving the human condition into money making schemes designed to enrich those who create them.
I do have some specific suggestions that I feel would be helpful long term:
Public financing for public elections
Flat rate Social Security Tax, first dollar to last all forms of income
Index minimum wage to the average increase in CEO pay for the S&P 500
Thats about it, that shouldnt be too hard to do, right?
Not bad.
One of mine is free airtime for all qualified candidates.
They get so much time and then have to use it by standing in front of the camera and telling you their platform.
No buying of airtime for anyone
Didn’t anybody on this forum go to school? Or know how to read?
“If the overgrown wealth of an individual be deemed dangerous to the State, the best corrective is the law of equal inheritance to all in equal degree; and the better, as this enforces a law of nature, while extra-taxation violates it.” T. Jefferson 1816
The Jeffersonian Cyclopedia: A Comprehensive Collection of the Views of ... - Thomas Jefferson - Google Books
How like a con to take it out of context you would think you would have more respect for Jefferson.....
The OP is basically Marxism 101
Didn’t anybody on this forum go to school? Or know how to read?
Jefferson took on the wealthy landowners with his programs to end entail and primogeniture. Entail required a property owner to, when he died, give his land to a family member. Primogeniture was the practice of leaving all land to the eldest son. Jefferson succeeded in ending both practices. His purpose was to get more people to vote. In order to vote, you had to own land. When large estates were broken up by Jefferson's laws, more people could afford land, more people bought land, and more people could vote.
As a young man in college I was not always the most diligent student. One weekend, near the end of term, was particularly eventful and I found myself on Monday morning sitting, looking at a Dynamics final and no memory of any of the fine formulas we had studied that semester. Then I remembered F=ma. From that kernel I was able to derive all of the formulas I needed and ended up doing pretty well. More importantly, I realized the importance of fundamental concepts; I found that if one has a good understanding of core principles the smaller details are easier to work out. This led me a few years ago to ask myself, aside from the individual policies which align my thinking with liberals; why am I a liberal?
After some consideration I arrived on four succinct statements, which I believe also gave me some insight to what motivates the other side.
I am a parent.
As a parent I will do anything within my power to advantage my child.
I am a citizen.
As a citizen I believe it is vitally important that we write rules that prevent that.
It is only natural that parents do all they can for their children, however as wealth accumulates this presents a threat to democracy. This is the threat that concerned Jefferson when he spoke of the need for inheritance taxes, not as a form of revenue but a means to protect the democracy from citizens that might become too powerful, and then threaten the will of the people. It is easy to see how this has become the case in America today.
The dangers of inherited wealth to our economy are not unlike monarchy to the health of any nation, when power is derived from birthright rather than ones labor it is more often foolishly applied. As more and more of our economy becomes inherited wealth it becomes more of a target for con men and less a tool for innovators. The worlds financial power has been diverted from improving the human condition into money making schemes designed to enrich those who create them.
I do have some specific suggestions that I feel would be helpful long term:
Public financing for public elections
Flat rate Social Security Tax, first dollar to last all forms of income
Index minimum wage to the average increase in CEO pay for the S&P 500
Thats about it, that shouldnt be too hard to do, right?
Didnt anybody on this forum go to school? Or know how to read?
If the overgrown wealth of an individual be deemed dangerous to the State, the best corrective is the law of equal inheritance to all in equal degree; and the better, as this enforces a law of nature, while extra-taxation violates it. T. Jefferson 1816
The Jeffersonian Cyclopedia: A Comprehensive Collection of the Views of ... - Thomas Jefferson - Google Books
How like a con to take it out of context you would think you would have more respect for Jefferson.....
How ironic. You don't even realize he is talking about eliminating the practice of primogeniture and entail, which I clearly pointed out to you above. And YOU took that quote out of context! Double irony.
He is saying eliminating primogeniture is the way to go and plainly states that extra-taxation is the WRONG solution to concentrated wealth.
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How did I take it out of context? Jefferson is saying if the rich get too rich the best thing to do is take it all and spread it around evenly
No sooner was the law of primogeniture abolished than fortunes began to diminish and all the families of the country were simultaneously reduced to a state in which labor became necessary to existence; several of them have since entirely disappeared, and all of them learned to look forward to the time when it would be necessary for everyone to provide for his own wants. Wealthy individuals are still to be met with, but they no longer constitute a compact and hereditary body, nor have they been able to adopt a line of conduct in which they could persevere and which they could infuse into all ranks of society. The prejudice that stigmatized labor was, in the first place, abandoned by common consent, the number of needy men was increased, and the needy were allowed to gain a subsistence by labor without blushing for their toil. Thus one of the most immediate consequences of the equal division of estates has been to create a class of free laborers.
, I don't think he ever imagined we would go to war and such without paying for it and end up with the kind of debt we got now, so I say take it and pay the debt, it's just the right thing to do.