Why Allow Gun Ownership?

[Blues Man]

No kidding. That does not mean that assault weapon ammo isn't exceedingly deadly

There is no such thing as "assault weapon" ammo.

 

[Lesh]

There is no such thing as "assault weapon" ammo.

Bullshit. The ammo that an assault weapon uses is assault weapon ammo, stupid.

 

[Blues Man]

Bullshit. The ammo that an assault weapon uses is assault weapon ammo, stupid.

Which caliber is that exactly? because there are rifles that look like AR 15s that are chambered for many different calibers.

And what about rifles that aren't ever going to be included in any "assault weapon" ban?

And FYI the Clinton era AWB had absolutely no effect on the murder rate.

 

[dblack]

1. Hunting

2. Target practice

3. Self defense

Case 1 does not require semi auto magazine fed. Certain cases (bear hunting or wild boar) require a handgun but large caliber revolvers serve that purpose.

2. That makes it a toy. A deadly toy

3. Certainly not a magazine fed semi auto. A shot gun is an excellent weapon for home defense.

You have it backwards. In a free country government decides what is NOT allowed.

 

[Lesh]

Which caliber is that exactly? because there are rifles that look like AR 15s that are chambered for many different calibers.

And what about rifles that aren't ever going to be included in any "assault weapon" ban?

And FYI the Clinton era AWB had absolutely no effect on the murder rate.

You keep talking in circles...intentionally.

Yes...a bolt action rifle using the same caliber ammo is not an assault weapon.

Why?

Because it is not semi-auto and magazine fed.

It is the combo of the weapon and the type of weapon that makes it an assault weapon

 

[Blues Man]

You keep talking in circles...intentionally.

Yes...a bolt action rifle using the same caliber ammo is not an assault weapon.

Why?

Because it is not semi-auto and magazine fed.

It is the combo of the weapon and the type of weapon that makes it an assault weapon

Bullshit.

Semiautomatic rifles have been available to civilians for over a century now.

The term assault weapon is a recently made up moniker used for ginning up the fearful like you.

 

[hadit]

The framers didn’t contemplate large capacity rapid fire assault weapons that could rip 19 children to shreds in the space of mere minutes.

Scalia opined in Heller that the strict regulation of such firearms is entirely consistent with the 2nd amendment. Those weapons and magazines are banned in my state and nobody is less free because of that. I would argue we are more free - free to drop our children at school without serious concern that they will be slaughtered there.

The framers also did not contemplate people being able to communicate with thousands or millions of other people virtually instantaneously, thus driving many young boys and girls to suicide. Should we not therefore have federal regulation that underage kids not be allowed to use the internet without constant adult supervision and not allowed to use social media at all, so we can be more free - free to allow our children to use the internet without serious concern that they will be cyber bullied there?

 

[gipper]

1. Hunting

2. Target practice

3. Self defense

Case 1 does not require semi auto magazine fed. Certain cases (bear hunting or wild boar) require a handgun but large caliber revolvers serve that purpose.

2. That makes it a toy. A deadly toy

3. Certainly not a magazine fed semi auto. A shot gun is an excellent weapon for home defense.

This! Stop being a dupe of the criminal D Party and the corporate media.

More people are shot and killed in Chicago each day, weekend than what happened in Uvalde Texas; most black Americans; why are the democrats & republicans playing bull shit politics? lets be serious!​

This is about games and politics, if you care about gun violence, why have you not done anything in Chicago? Why? Are black Americans not important? You democrats & republicans do not care for blacks.​

https://palexander.substack.com/p/more-people-are-shot-and-killed-in/comments
Many many issues needs addressing in the society as we yes, deal with the gun access etc.:
-Home ownership, rent-to-own
-Mental health support; reducing the stigma and taboo around it
-drug use, weed, opioids
-fatherless homes, men not standing up and fathering their child, young person, AWOL; sidelining the father
-improper support of the mother who stays behind to raise the child, young person
-allowing the dark web and internet overtake your vulnerable child
-lack of faith, religious connection
-broken homes, we have to face this, there is a serious crisis when no father is there; lack of leadership in the home
-drop out of school, not going to school
-not proper oversight by parents and teachers of the children
-unhealthy lifestyles e.g. lack of proper nutrition etc.
-poor education system
-lack of being tough on crime
-the impact of lockdowns and schools closures on young children and people now showing up
-viewing too much social media that poisons the mind, the vulnerable mind
-broken borders and people getting into the US getting benefits Americans do not get
-incessant pandemic lockdown messages that are harming the population
-abuse of alcohol
-traumatic childhoods, bullying
-physical abuse and sexual abuse of children in the home
-racism
-lack of empowerment of teachers and elders to say something; we have to lean on side of safety
-the re-focus has to be by adults and teachers and all to ‘protect’ children FIRST
-schools are not safe at present so know it is not a safe environment, so treat it as such; position police there at this time
-increasing extra activities in school etc. to keep kids off the streets and engaged
-enhanced mentorship programs; role models paired to kids, especially troubled youth; apprenticeship programs
-proper healthcare, equity and improved access
More people are shot and killed in Chicago each day, weekend than what happened in Uvalde Texas; most black Americans; why are the democrats & republicans playing bull shit politics? lets be serious!

 

[Lesh]

This! Stop being a dupe of the criminal D Party and the corporate media.

More people are shot and killed in Chicago each day, weekend than what happened in Uvalde Texas; most black Americans; why are the democrats & republicans playing bull shit politics? lets be serious!​

This is about games and politics, if you care about gun violence, why have you not done anything in Chicago? Why? Are black Americans not important? You democrats & republicans do not care for blacks.​

More people are shot and killed in Chicago each day, weekend than what happened in Uvalde Texas; most black Americans; why are the democrats & republicans playing bull shit politics? lets be serious!
Many many issues needs addressing in the society as we yes, deal with the gun access etc.:
-Home ownership, rent-to-own
-Mental health support; reducing the stigma and taboo around it
-drug use, weed, opioids
-fatherless homes, men not standing up and fathering their child, young person, AWOL; sidelining the father
-improper support of the mother who stays behind to raise the child, young person
-allowing the dark web and internet overtake your vulnerable child
-lack of faith, religious connection
-broken homes, we have to face this, there is a serious crisis when no father is there; lack of leadership in the home
-drop out of school, not going to school
-not proper oversight by parents and teachers of the children
-unhealthy lifestyles e.g. lack of proper nutrition etc.
-poor education system
-lack of being tough on crime
-the impact of lockdowns and schools closures on young children and people now showing up
-viewing too much social media that poisons the mind, the vulnerable mind
-broken borders and people getting into the US getting benefits Americans do not get
-incessant pandemic lockdown messages that are harming the population
-abuse of alcohol
-traumatic childhoods, bullying
-physical abuse and sexual abuse of children in the home
-racism
-lack of empowerment of teachers and elders to say something; we have to lean on side of safety
-the re-focus has to be by adults and teachers and all to ‘protect’ children FIRST
-schools are not safe at present so know it is not a safe environment, so treat it as such; position police there at this time
-increasing extra activities in school etc. to keep kids off the streets and engaged
-enhanced mentorship programs; role models paired to kids, especially troubled youth; apprenticeship programs
-proper healthcare, equity and improved access
More people are shot and killed in Chicago each day, weekend than what happened in Uvalde Texas; most black Americans; why are the democrats & republicans playing bull shit politics? lets be serious!

So because Chicago has guns coming in from Indiana etc...we should ignore 19 kids being killed in school?

Or the folks killed in Buffalo by a racist asshole?

Or all the kids killed in school shootings?

and on and on?

No

 

[Briss]

So because Chicago has guns coming in from Indiana etc...we should ignore 19 kids being killed in school?

You're one to talk about ignoring things. You've made statements that turned out to be something you made up or parroted from someone on an official-looking site. And you did that in order to push your agenda.

When you said that the AR-15 is the choice of school/mass shootings, this tells everyone that you you'll say anything in order to put a shine on your argument. How do we know you won't do that again?

 

[Blues Man]

So because Chicago has guns coming in from Indiana etc...we should ignore 19 kids being killed in school?

Or the folks killed in Buffalo by a racist asshole?

Or all the kids killed in school shootings?

and on and on?

No

Chicago has the gun violence that it does because the powers that be utterly REFUSE to enforce any gun laws

 

[gipper]

So because Chicago has guns coming in from Indiana etc...we should ignore 19 kids being killed in school?

Or the folks killed in Buffalo by a racist asshole?

Or all the kids killed in school shootings?

and on and on?

No

Where did I state that?

Why be a straw man?

 

[miketx]

1. Hunting

2. Target practice

3. Self defense

Case 1 does not require semi auto magazine fed. Certain cases (bear hunting or wild boar) require a handgun but large caliber revolvers serve that purpose.

2. That makes it a toy. A deadly toy

3. Certainly not a magazine fed semi auto. A shot gun is an excellent weapon for home defense.

Come get them.

 

[Lesh]

Come get them.

That’s a poor response to the post you quoted

 

[Natural Citizen]

1. Hunting

2. Target practice

3. Self defense

Case 1 does not require semi auto magazine fed. Certain cases (bear hunting or wild boar) require a handgun but large caliber revolvers serve that purpose.

2. That makes it a toy. A deadly toy

3. Certainly not a magazine fed semi auto. A shot gun is an excellent weapon for home defense.

Here, several highly trained men with guns were sent by the government and emptied their magazines into a homeless veteran.



If these highly trained men require this much hardware to extinguish what they observed as a threat to their safety by a single individual sitting at a bus stop minding his own business, then why would government not want our families to have that same opportunity to defend themselves against what they foresee as a threat? Why would government go out of its way to expend so much energy in depriving the electorate of this same opportunity? Hm? Why? Tell us.

 

[Cellblock2429]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Defense from the tyranny of a powerful govt or any other force is the main purpose.
Home defense is one aspect but defense of rights is the main reason we have the 2A.
They don't teach you kids much do they?

/----/ We have a 2nd Amendment to stop the liberals form taking away our 1st Amendment.

 

[Lesh]

Here, several highly trained men with guns were sent by the government and emptied their magazines into a homeless veteran.



If these highly trained men require this much hardware to extinguish what they observed as a threat to their safety by a single individual sitting at a bus stop minding his own business, then why would government not want our families to have that same opportunity to defend themselves against what they foresee as a threat? Why would government go out of its way to expend so much energy in depriving the electorate of this same opportunity? Hm? Why? Tell us.

Cops are out of control?

Breanna Taylor was gunned down in her bed. Why? Because cops are trained that every person they meet has a gun.

Far too many guns on our society

 

[Cellblock2429]

Backcountry guides advise not attempting to shoot at bears at all - it’s the least effective way to neutralize a bear attack. Bear spray is what you should be carrying - two cans, in case a very pissed off bear finds you again before you get to safety.

Most people think they are a much better shot than they actually would be in a crisis situation. Even police who practice routinely often struggle in crisis settings. This is why all the ideas about arming teachers and other civilians as a means of defense against suicidal mass shooters is insanity.

Nobody but military and law enforcement need to have ownership or possession of assault firearms and large capacity magazines. All the arguments to the contrary are specious.

/---/ STFU gun grabber.

 

[Lesh]

Backcountry guides advise not attempting to shoot at bears at all - it’s the least effective way to neutralize a bear attack. Bear spray is what you should be carrying - two cans, in case a very pissed off bear finds you again before you get to safety.

Most people think they are a much better shot than they actually would be in a crisis situation. Even police who practice routinely often struggle in crisis settings. This is why all the ideas about arming teachers and other civilians as a means of defense against suicidal mass shooters is insanity.

Nobody but military and law enforcement need to have ownership or possession of assault firearms and large capacity magazines. All the arguments to the contrary are specious.

Thank you

 

[miketx]

That’s a poor response to the post you quoted

Come get them coward.