Who's Afraid of Socialism?

[Oddball]

There is not a socialistic policy in america. Socialism will never take hold here. It has no support other than a few fringes kooks who are way out there.

What is social security? What is legal unionism? What is a public school system. What is the basis of our taxes?
Do you have a high school degree?

What are any of those things worth in the real world?

You really such a dunce that you want to go with those examples of socialistic "success"?!?

What are they "worth" huh? You want, what, dollar values, Ferengi?

What's the fact that we had no Thalidomide babies in the US because the socialistic FDA kept it out "worth"? How many "dollars"?

What's it "worth" to be able to take a plane trip without crashing into another plane because the socialistic FAA coordinates all of those flights? Or to be able to drive from point A to point B three thousand miles away on the socialistic public roads? I dunno, you'd have to compare the cost to walking through the wilderness for that distance, wouldn't you. And you'll have to do so without those damned socialistic bridges and tunnels because without socialism they aren't there.

What's it "worth" to your house if it catches fire, that the socialistic fire department is there to put it out and the socialistic police force is there to protect it? What's it "worth" to know you can pull a glass of water out of your tap and you're not going to get dysentery because the socialistic water works doesn't allow it to happen? Hm?

For that matter where the fuck do you think this internet came from? Fairies?

The FDA approved Fen-Phen, Viox, and a lot of other drugs which killed and maimed people....When have they ever been held to account for that?

How many totally safe and effective medications and devices have been kept off the market, because of the horribly expensive ($500,000,00+) and onerously long (a decade or more) process to get them approved...Do you have any idea whom that empowers and whom that weakens?...Do you even know what "orphan drugs" are?

Hilarious that you'd try to invoke the biggest protection racket for BigPharm ever created, as a supposed "success" of socialism!

So you actually try to make a point about FDA screening failures ---- and then immediately shoot that point in the foot with whining about why it works.

I think you don't quite get the idea of how argument is made. Perhaps you should spend time at the socialist public library.

Wait...If the FDA is so great, why aren't they held accountable for their "screening failures"....Why are you pimping for that immense protection racket?

Beside all of that, your post absolutely reeks of the fallacy of....

 

[miketx]

Who’s Afraid of Socialism? | Open Media Boston

"Capitalism’s incompatibility with majority interests has been reaffirmed by the current economic crisis.

"Earlier, the most severe effects of capitalism had been offset, within the US, by the progressive reforms of the 1930s.

"But capital’s political power was less restrained in this country than it was in the other rich countries.

"Flush with military might and bolstered by a mass right-wing culture of arrogant self-righteousness, US capital launched a withering counterattack against the New Deal legacy, culminating in an almost three-decade orgy of anti-welfare legislation, imperialist aggression, privatization, and deregulation."

Unrestrained profit maximization results in concentrating an enormous amount of surplus capital which can find few safe investments.

"Free market" capitalists turn to highly speculative scams which generate financial bubbles as the real economy continues to be hollowed out and the working class is driven deeper into debt.

Socialism would turn to government for an alternative, but US government is Goldman Sachs regardless of which major party is in control.

Anyone that isn't a complete idiot or tyrant is.

 

[ElmerMudd]

There is not a socialistic policy in america. Socialism will never take hold here. It has no support other than a few fringes kooks who are way out there.

What is social security? What is legal unionism? What is a public school system.

Failure.

Try living without them.
The uneducated do not want public education. The educated intimidate people like you.

 

[ElmerMudd]

What is social security? What is legal unionism? What is a public school system. What is the basis of our taxes?
Do you have a high school degree?

What are any of those things worth in the real world?

You really such a dunce that you want to go with those examples of socialistic "success"?!?

What are they "worth" huh? You want, what, dollar values, Ferengi?

What's the fact that we had no Thalidomide babies in the US because the socialistic FDA kept it out "worth"? How many "dollars"?

What's it "worth" to be able to take a plane trip without crashing into another plane because the socialistic FAA coordinates all of those flights? Or to be able to drive from point A to point B three thousand miles away on the socialistic public roads? I dunno, you'd have to compare the cost to walking through the wilderness for that distance, wouldn't you. And you'll have to do so without those damned socialistic bridges and tunnels because without socialism they aren't there.

What's it "worth" to your house if it catches fire, that the socialistic fire department is there to put it out and the socialistic police force is there to protect it? What's it "worth" to know you can pull a glass of water out of your tap and you're not going to get dysentery because the socialistic water works doesn't allow it to happen? Hm?

For that matter where the fuck do you think this internet came from? Fairies?

The FDA approved Fen-Phen, Viox, and a lot of other drugs which killed and maimed people....When have they ever been held to account for that?

How many totally safe and effective medications and devices have been kept off the market, because of the horribly expensive ($500,000,00+) and onerously long (a decade or more) process to get them approved...Do you have any idea whom that empowers and whom that weakens?...Do you even know what "orphan drugs" are?

Hilarious that you'd try to invoke the biggest protection racket for BigPharm ever created, as a supposed "success" of socialism!

So you actually try to make a point about FDA screening failures ---- and then immediately shoot that point in the foot with whining about why it works.

I think you don't quite get the idea of how argument is made. Perhaps you should spend time at the socialist public library.

Wait...If the FDA is so great, why aren't they held accountable for their "screening failures"....Why are you pimping for that immense protection racket?

Beside all of that, your post absolutely reeks of the fallacy of....

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You just ramble. Your thought process is skewed.
If the FDA is not perfect, they should not exist?
Are you perfect?

 

[SNAFUBARIFIC]

SOCIALISM IS FOR SISSIES!!!!!

Just Sayin'...

 

[Pogo]

What is social security? What is legal unionism? What is a public school system. What is the basis of our taxes?
Do you have a high school degree?

What are any of those things worth in the real world?

You really such a dunce that you want to go with those examples of socialistic "success"?!?

What are they "worth" huh? You want, what, dollar values, Ferengi?

What's the fact that we had no Thalidomide babies in the US because the socialistic FDA kept it out "worth"? How many "dollars"?

What's it "worth" to be able to take a plane trip without crashing into another plane because the socialistic FAA coordinates all of those flights? Or to be able to drive from point A to point B three thousand miles away on the socialistic public roads? I dunno, you'd have to compare the cost to walking through the wilderness for that distance, wouldn't you. And you'll have to do so without those damned socialistic bridges and tunnels because without socialism they aren't there.

What's it "worth" to your house if it catches fire, that the socialistic fire department is there to put it out and the socialistic police force is there to protect it? What's it "worth" to know you can pull a glass of water out of your tap and you're not going to get dysentery because the socialistic water works doesn't allow it to happen? Hm?

For that matter where the fuck do you think this internet came from? Fairies?

The FDA approved Fen-Phen, Viox, and a lot of other drugs which killed and maimed people....When have they ever been held to account for that?

How many totally safe and effective medications and devices have been kept off the market, because of the horribly expensive ($500,000,00+) and onerously long (a decade or more) process to get them approved...Do you have any idea whom that empowers and whom that weakens?...Do you even know what "orphan drugs" are?

Hilarious that you'd try to invoke the biggest protection racket for BigPharm ever created, as a supposed "success" of socialism!

So you actually try to make a point about FDA screening failures ---- and then immediately shoot that point in the foot with whining about why it works.

I think you don't quite get the idea of how argument is made. Perhaps you should spend time at the socialist public library.

Hilarious that you'd try to invoke the biggest protection racket for BigPharm ever created, as supposed "success" of socialism!

Is it.
Tell the class, Noodles --- how many Thalidomide babies did the US have?

Now how many did Britain have? Or Canada? Australia?

What's the difference? How come we got zero and they got tens of thousands?

Oh wait, I know. It's the fairies again. Because government always bad.

Wait...If the FDA is so great, why aren't they held accountable for their "screening failures"....Why are you pimping for that immense protection racket?

Beside all of that, your post absolutely reeks of the fallacy of....

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Actually your Googly Image reeks of irony, for it actually **DOES** mean it wouldn't have been done, as it was not done in, per my examples, Britain, and Canada, and Australia, all of which (and more) had to deal with a bogus drug that we didn't.

There's nothing you can do about that. You just dug your own hole further.

Further, I never posted anything about "FDA is so great". That's your own butthurt hanging out because you've been busted.

Now watch -- in the next post you'll shoot yourself in the foot again, with something about "gummint doesn't have to be perfect". Pogo predicts.

 

[Oddball]

You just ramble. Your thought process is skewed.
If the FDA is not perfect, they should not exist?
Are you perfect?

Gubmint doesn't have to be perfect, but it's there to make certain that the private sector is.

Talk about skewed thought processes!

 

[percysunshine]

In 2018, 3 million people fled Venezuela. It was not because McDonalds has tasteless french fries.

 

[Oddball]

Actually your Googly Image reeks of irony, for it actually **DOES** mean it wouldn't have been done, as it was not done in, per my examples, Britain, and Canada, and Australia, all of which (and more) had to deal with a bogus drug that we didn't.

There's nothing you can do about that. You just dug your own hole.

Further, I never posted anything about "FDA is so great". That's your own butthurt hanging out because you've been busted.

Actually it doesn't, as you cannot logically prove a negative.

And nobody claimed you said the FDA is great, I merely pointed out your flawed belief, based upon the deeper naive belief in the omniscience of The State, that that it is necessary.

As for my being butthurt, don't make me laugh even more than I already have....My belly is starting to ache.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Who is afraid of Satan?

Even if you aren't afraid (although let's be honest the OP is wetting his pants), not sure it's the best idea to invite him over for a dinner.

Are you saying satan is a capitalist?

Or is satan another lie the rich tell to their timid slaves?

Slavery is running rampant in those 3rd world shitholes which you want to turn our great capitalist nation into.

Only a moron could have not understood my point.

Be great if you could list those countries.

Your favorite religious leader, Mohammed himself was quite the slave master (in addition to having all the other preferable qualities such as child raping). No wonder that your favorite countries are still practicing slavery.

"
Modern slavery is a brutal reality around the world. The 2016 Global Slavery Index published by the Walk Free Foundation estimates that 45.8 million people are in some form of slavery in 167 countries. 58 percent of people in slavery are living in just five countries: India, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Uzbekistan.May 31, 2016
"

The Countries With The Most People Living In Slavery [Infographic]

Obviously all those countries made of your worst nemesis, white capitalist males.

You stated that there were countries which you want to turn our great capitalist nation into. I havent seen anyone advocating for turning anywhere into Pakistan or China. So where are these countries ?

 

[Norman]

Pure socialism or pure capitalism does not work. Show me an example of either that works in the real world.
Our government is a blend of both capitalism and socialism, heavier on capitalism.
The key is took get the balance right.

Pure capitalism does work, but there are numerous people who do everything in their power to destroy it.

Show me a pure capitalist government that has worked in a real world. In a pure capitalist government those who cheat and have no morals more often win. Capitalism with all participants having a moral compass may work, but human being do not all have moral compasses.
The US economy was predominantly capitalist in the late 1800's. The result was the creation of monopolies so companies could not compete and taking advantage of workers.
One of the first to instill capitalist regulations was Teddy roosevelt a Republican

The US was extremely close to pure capitalism until 1914 when the government created the Federal Reserve. During that time it became the biggest and richest economy on planet Earth.

There were no monopolies in the country aside from the ones the government created. You've been brainwashed with Marxist propaganda.

Please,that is the statement of someone who does not know their history. Read your history; Standard Oil, JP Morgan banking, Carnegie Steel.

Pure Marxism is bad, pure capitalism is bad. They are both theories that do not work in the real world.
You hate Marx. You are the equivalent of Marx but on the opposite side. You are what you hate.

In theory (on paper) pure capitalism, marxism, socialism, etc is designed to uplift all. Now add the real world that contains myriads of motivational factors, personalities, fixations, etc and every system ultimately becomes corrupted, pure or otherwise.

I would seriously like to know which paper that is.

There is not a socialistic policy in america. Socialism will never take hold here. It has no support other than a few fringes kooks who are way out there.

What is social security? What is legal unionism? What is a public school system.

Failure.

Try living without them.
The uneducated do not want public education. The educated intimidate people like you.

I would LOVE to live without them. Where can I sign up?

Public education is child abuse, teaching boys that they are girls is seriously damaging. All these facilities are good for seems to be teaching sodomy (although, is this higher education now?), and to those interested I am sure they can figure it out on their own.

 

[Norman]

Who is afraid of Satan?

Even if you aren't afraid (although let's be honest the OP is wetting his pants), not sure it's the best idea to invite him over for a dinner.

Are you saying satan is a capitalist?

Or is satan another lie the rich tell to their timid slaves?

Slavery is running rampant in those 3rd world shitholes which you want to turn our great capitalist nation into.

Only a moron could have not understood my point.

Be great if you could list those countries.

Your favorite religious leader, Mohammed himself was quite the slave master (in addition to having all the other preferable qualities such as child raping). No wonder that your favorite countries are still practicing slavery.

"
Modern slavery is a brutal reality around the world. The 2016 Global Slavery Index published by the Walk Free Foundation estimates that 45.8 million people are in some form of slavery in 167 countries. 58 percent of people in slavery are living in just five countries: India, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Uzbekistan.May 31, 2016
"

The Countries With The Most People Living In Slavery [Infographic]

Obviously all those countries made of your worst nemesis, white capitalist males.

You stated that there were countries which you want to turn our great capitalist nation into. I havent seen anyone advocating for turning anywhere into Pakistan or China. So where are these countries ?

They often have trouble spelling it out publicly, but why else are they frothing at every opportunity to replace Americans by a bunch of 3rd worlders. "We aren't procreating, because the policies we enacted, so now the only option is to replace us with 3rd worlders".

Stupidity on top of stupidity is how these people operate. Let us not forget that democrat party was the party of slavery and unanimously voted for keeping it.

 

[ElmerMudd]

In 2018, 3 million people fled Venezuela. It was not because McDonalds has tasteless french fries.

pure socialism does not work. Never has, never will.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Are you saying satan is a capitalist?

Or is satan another lie the rich tell to their timid slaves?

Slavery is running rampant in those 3rd world shitholes which you want to turn our great capitalist nation into.

Only a moron could have not understood my point.

Be great if you could list those countries.

Your favorite religious leader, Mohammed himself was quite the slave master (in addition to having all the other preferable qualities such as child raping). No wonder that your favorite countries are still practicing slavery.

"
Modern slavery is a brutal reality around the world. The 2016 Global Slavery Index published by the Walk Free Foundation estimates that 45.8 million people are in some form of slavery in 167 countries. 58 percent of people in slavery are living in just five countries: India, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Uzbekistan.May 31, 2016
"

The Countries With The Most People Living In Slavery [Infographic]

Obviously all those countries made of your worst nemesis, white capitalist males.

You stated that there were countries which you want to turn our great capitalist nation into. I havent seen anyone advocating for turning anywhere into Pakistan or China. So where are these countries ?

They often have trouble spelling it out publicly, but why else are they frothing at every opportunity to replace Americans by a bunch of 3rd worlders. "We aren't procreating, because the policies we enacted, so now the only option is to replace us with 3rd worlders".

Stupidity on top of stupidity is how these people operate. Let us not forget that democrat party was the party of slavery and unanimously voted for keeping it.

Did you not understand my question ?

 

[ElmerMudd]

In 2018, 3 million people fled Venezuela. It was not because McDonalds has tasteless french fries.

pure socialism does not work. Never has, never will.

but pure capitalism is not the only option except for those with diminished intellectual capabilities.

 

[bripat9643]

In 2018, 3 million people fled Venezuela. It was not because McDonalds has tasteless french fries.

pure socialism does not work. Never has, never will.

but pure capitalism is not the only option except for those with diminished intellectual capabilities.

True, there are all manner of options between death and health.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Pure capitalism does work, but there are numerous people who do everything in their power to destroy it.

Show me a pure capitalist government that has worked in a real world. In a pure capitalist government those who cheat and have no morals more often win. Capitalism with all participants having a moral compass may work, but human being do not all have moral compasses.
The US economy was predominantly capitalist in the late 1800's. The result was the creation of monopolies so companies could not compete and taking advantage of workers.
One of the first to instill capitalist regulations was Teddy roosevelt a Republican

The US was extremely close to pure capitalism until 1914 when the government created the Federal Reserve. During that time it became the biggest and richest economy on planet Earth.

There were no monopolies in the country aside from the ones the government created. You've been brainwashed with Marxist propaganda.

Please,that is the statement of someone who does not know their history. Read your history; Standard Oil, JP Morgan banking, Carnegie Steel.

Pure Marxism is bad, pure capitalism is bad. They are both theories that do not work in the real world.
You hate Marx. You are the equivalent of Marx but on the opposite side. You are what you hate.

In theory (on paper) pure capitalism, marxism, socialism, etc is designed to uplift all. Now add the real world that contains myriads of motivational factors, personalities, fixations, etc and every system ultimately becomes corrupted, pure or otherwise.

I would seriously like to know which paper that is.

There is not a socialistic policy in america. Socialism will never take hold here. It has no support other than a few fringes kooks who are way out there.

What is social security? What is legal unionism? What is a public school system.

Failure.

Try living without them.
The uneducated do not want public education. The educated intimidate people like you.

I would LOVE to live without them. Where can I sign up?

Public education is child abuse, teaching boys that they are girls is seriously damaging. All these facilities are good for seems to be teaching sodomy (although, is this higher education now?), and to those interested I am sure they can figure it out on their own.

Norman, you are a sick puppy. There is narrow thinking and there is no thinking. You border between the two.

 

[Likkmee]

THE USA IS PURE FASCISM WHERE THE BIG CORPS CONTROL ALL THE FLOW OF MONEY, ALL OF THE GOVT AND THE MEATHEADS IN THE MILITARY.
Simple

 

[ElmerMudd]

In 2018, 3 million people fled Venezuela. It was not because McDonalds has tasteless french fries.

pure socialism does not work. Never has, never will.

but pure capitalism is not the only option except for those with diminished intellectual capabilities.

True, there are all manner of options between death and health.

Death is pure socialism and pure capitalism; health is a hybrid.

 

[percysunshine]

In 2018, 3 million people fled Venezuela. It was not because McDonalds has tasteless french fries.

pure socialism does not work. Never has, never will.

but pure capitalism is not the only option except for those with diminished intellectual capabilities.

True, there are all manner of options between death and health.

Death is pure socialism and pure capitalism; health is a hybrid.

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