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Cecile: No, the thread is intended to show everyone how clever you are, "Oooh, look, he figured out something new and unique that no one else saw", and fails miserably. It teaches no one anything except that you like to conflate opinions with facts.
Brutus: so if there is a mistake in the reasoning why be so afriad to point out what it is??
Cecile: The FACT is that neither the Democrat nor the Republican Party existed in Jefferson's time.
Brutus: "Although people were still deeply ambivalent about political parties, although one party did not necessarily recognize the legitimacy of the other, and although men on both sides were nostalgic- at one time or another- for the imaginary golden age of political harmony, few people could be found in the early 1790's who believed the parties did not exist. The parties had names: Federalist and Republican."- Susan Dunn, "Jefferson's Second Revolution."
Cecile: There was a completely separate and different party, the Democratic-Republican Party, which no longer exists and to which both the Democrats and the Republicans made reference when they chose their names for political calculations of their own. Trying to claim Thomas Jefferson for one or the other modern party is stupid and childish.
Brutus: and now even you know better. Who would have thought even a dominatrix could learn??
Cecile: If you wish to try to make an argument that one or the other party is more similar in views and attitudes to Thomas Jefferson than the other, then do that.
Brutus: Try??? Jefferson founded the Republican Party in 1794 to stand for freedom and liberty from government, and nothing else. Federalists then and Democrats now are 100% opposed. Again, welcome to your first lesson in American History!!
Cecile: But stop wasting everyone's time with this nutty and remarkably UNclever attempt to associate him with something he never had contact with. You might as well try to claim a modern-day political affiliation for Napoleon or Jesus Christ or Cro-Magnon Man.
Brutus: I assume the liberal knows better now??
Brutus: so if there is a mistake in the reasoning why be so afriad to point out what it is??
Cecile: The FACT is that neither the Democrat nor the Republican Party existed in Jefferson's time.
Brutus: "Although people were still deeply ambivalent about political parties, although one party did not necessarily recognize the legitimacy of the other, and although men on both sides were nostalgic- at one time or another- for the imaginary golden age of political harmony, few people could be found in the early 1790's who believed the parties did not exist. The parties had names: Federalist and Republican."- Susan Dunn, "Jefferson's Second Revolution."
Cecile: There was a completely separate and different party, the Democratic-Republican Party, which no longer exists and to which both the Democrats and the Republicans made reference when they chose their names for political calculations of their own. Trying to claim Thomas Jefferson for one or the other modern party is stupid and childish.
Brutus: and now even you know better. Who would have thought even a dominatrix could learn??
Cecile: If you wish to try to make an argument that one or the other party is more similar in views and attitudes to Thomas Jefferson than the other, then do that.
Brutus: Try??? Jefferson founded the Republican Party in 1794 to stand for freedom and liberty from government, and nothing else. Federalists then and Democrats now are 100% opposed. Again, welcome to your first lesson in American History!!
Cecile: But stop wasting everyone's time with this nutty and remarkably UNclever attempt to associate him with something he never had contact with. You might as well try to claim a modern-day political affiliation for Napoleon or Jesus Christ or Cro-Magnon Man.
Brutus: I assume the liberal knows better now??