Who here "opposes" this simple Sanders' proposal?

[Dovahkiin]

The people who disagree are the same morons who lean towards neoliberalism.

When all else fails --- invoke a bullshit neo-label and spit it out with malice. Go for the emotions and fuck rationality.

Neoliberalism has been the driving force behind both parties since the 70s and the movement towards "new Keynesianism."

 

[HenryBHough]

Would not Sanders simply nationalize all drug development and production?

Think about how well government does stuff while you're standing in line at the post office next.

 

[Pogo]

No one can but they can point at the word Socialism and go "Eww Yucky"

no doubt that Sanders is quite socialistic-------ok ---fine with me----but as far as how is programs will be FINANCED_------he seems to have NO IDEA and certainly no viable
plan

Funny, it seems to be all spelled out on his website.

Oh sorry ----- that thing is called a "link".

 

[Arianrhod]

No one can but they can point at the word Socialism and go "Eww Yucky"

no doubt that Sanders is quite socialistic-------ok ---fine with me----but as far as how is programs will be FINANCED_------he seems to have NO IDEA and certainly no viable
plan

Okay, now that you've regurgitated the talking points, how about you address the OP? What's wrong with lowering drug prices?

 

[nat4900]

right a MEDICARE recipient----in order to get drug coverage has to have SUPPLEMENTAL INSURANCE. That insurance has to worry about the payments

Still can't figure it out???? But, fear not, you have other imbeciles who agree with you.

 

[Arianrhod]

Would not Sanders simply nationalize all drug development and production?

Think about how well government does stuff while you're standing in line at the post office next.

People still stand in line at the post office?

 

[Pogo]

The people who disagree are the same morons who lean towards neoliberalism.

When all else fails --- invoke a bullshit neo-label and spit it out with malice. Go for the emotions and fuck rationality.

Neoliberalism has been the driving force behind both parties since the 70s and the movement towards "new Keynesianism."

Yuh huh. How vaguely interesting.

 

[g5000]

This is a proposal which will pay for itself.

 

[g5000]

Read this.

 

[Dovahkiin]

The people who disagree are the same morons who lean towards neoliberalism.

When all else fails --- invoke a bullshit neo-label and spit it out with malice. Go for the emotions and fuck rationality.

Neoliberalism has been the driving force behind both parties since the 70s and the movement towards "new Keynesianism."

Yuh huh. How vaguely interesting.

You don't remember the resistance the left had towards carter and the drastic shift in policy that occurred afterwards? Deregulation, an obsession with deficits being bad, a newfound hatred of the national debt, the attacks on labor, wanting to disrupt the balance between investment and consumer consumption..

 

[nat4900]

When seniors were switched over to Medicare D, their cost of prescription drugs shot up.

If I recall correctly, Bush's 2003 Medicare screw up, ALSO banned states from "repatriation" of drugs from Canada....thereby allowing seniors to be screwed out of accessing cheaper drugs (that were originally manufactured in the states, anyway.)

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Would not Sanders simply nationalize all drug development and production?

Think about how well government does stuff while you're standing in line at the post office next.

People still stand in line at the post office?

Haven't been near one in years.. I did however have to go to the DMV for something. I wasn't fun. But now some notaries are state agents, so you can go there, the experience is 100% better.

 

[irosie91]

right a MEDICARE recipient----in order to get drug coverage has to have SUPPLEMENTAL INSURANCE. That insurance has to worry about the payments

Still can't figure it out???? But, fear not, you have other imbeciles who agree with you.

figure what out? with what do the other imbeciles agree?

 

[Pogo]

The people who disagree are the same morons who lean towards neoliberalism.

When all else fails --- invoke a bullshit neo-label and spit it out with malice. Go for the emotions and fuck rationality.

Neoliberalism has been the driving force behind both parties since the 70s and the movement towards "new Keynesianism."

Yuh huh. How vaguely interesting.

You don't remember the resistance the left had towards carter and the drastic shift in policy that occurred afterwards? Deregulation, an obsession with deficits being bad, a newfound hatred of the national debt, the attacks on labor, wanting to disrupt the balance between investment and consumer consumption..

Of course I remember all that. Nobody brought any of that up.
All I posted on was invoking bullshit rhetorical labels.

 

[irosie91]

When seniors were switched over to Medicare D, their cost of prescription drugs shot up.

If I recall correctly, Bush's 2003 Medicare screw up, ALSO banned states from "repatriation" of drugs from Canada....thereby allowing seniors to be screwed out of accessing cheaper drugs (that were originally manufactured in the states, anyway.)

I do not recall Bush's medicare screw up------got a link?

 

[irosie91]

No one can but they can point at the word Socialism and go "Eww Yucky"

no doubt that Sanders is quite socialistic-------ok ---fine with me----but as far as how is programs will be FINANCED_------he seems to have NO IDEA and certainly no viable
plan

Okay, now that you've regurgitated the talking points, how about you address the OP? What's wrong with lowering drug prices?

I am all for low prices. I am horrified at the price of milk, eggs and bread. I do not know how to lower any prices. I did not do even Economics 101

 

[g5000]

When seniors were switched over to Medicare D, their cost of prescription drugs shot up.

If I recall correctly, Bush's 2003 Medicare screw up, ALSO banned states from "repatriation" of drugs from Canada....thereby allowing seniors to be screwed out of accessing cheaper drugs (that were originally manufactured in the states, anyway.)

Bush agreed to the provision about drug prices in order to get the pharmaceutical companies to endorse Part D. He sold out.

As for Canada, I always chuckle when I hear people say our seniors should be able to buy their drugs there.

Hello? Our senior population is greater than the entire population of Canada! 46 million seniors vs. 35 million Canucks. So how do you think that would work out?

 

[Arianrhod]

right a MEDICARE recipient----in order to get drug coverage has to have SUPPLEMENTAL INSURANCE. That insurance has to worry about the payments

Still can't figure it out???? But, fear not, you have other imbeciles who agree with you.

figure what out? with what do the other imbeciles agree?

It's simple: Should older people pay more or less for their medications?

Don't worry; you won't have to pay for them.

Do you have a thought at all?

 

[Dovahkiin]

The people who disagree are the same morons who lean towards neoliberalism.

When all else fails --- invoke a bullshit neo-label and spit it out with malice. Go for the emotions and fuck rationality.

Neoliberalism has been the driving force behind both parties since the 70s and the movement towards "new Keynesianism."

Yuh huh. How vaguely interesting.

You don't remember the resistance the left had towards carter and the drastic shift in policy that occurred afterwards? Deregulation, an obsession with deficits being bad, a newfound hatred of the national debt, the attacks on labor, wanting to disrupt the balance between investment and consumer consumption..

Of course I remember all that. Nobody brought any of that up.
All I posted on was invoking bullshit rhetorical labels.

My bad, I just really want to talk about the deficit for some reason.. Damn MMT..

 

[Pogo]

Would not Sanders simply nationalize all drug development and production?

Think about how well government does stuff while you're standing in line at the post office next.

Funny you should bring that up again Henry. You know, after the last time? When I described how the post office got me stuff from Maine and California in as little as six days (from China), while it took UPS three fucking weeks to bring my package from Kansas City, crying the blues about "oh dear, there's snow on the ground"?