Whites Died to Free Blacks They Tell Us.

[EvilCat Breath]

There is no greater waste of time than time spent arguing over slavery.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

wrong there were no slaves in the Northern US. But my point is according to IM2 blacks did not sell blacks into slavery at all.

Slavery did exist in the northern states and colonies for more than 100 years.

Yes, Blacks sold Blacks to slavers, which does not mitigate American Negro chattel slavery at all.

"Yes, slavery existed in the British northern colonies and American states before the Civil War. The privateer The White Lion brought 20 enslaved Africans ashore in the British colony of Jamestown, Virginia in 1619 1. Throughout the 17th century, European settlers in North America turned to enslaved Africans as a cheaper, more plentiful labor source than indentured servants 1. By the mid-19th century, America’s westward expansion and the abolition movement provoked a great debate over slavery that would tear the nation apart in the bloody Civil War 1." Bing AI.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Slavery did exist in the northern states and colonies for more than 100 years.

Yes, Blacks sold Blacks to slavers, which does not mitigate American Negro chattel slavery at all.

"Yes, slavery existed in the British northern colonies and American states before the Civil War. The privateer The White Lion brought 20 enslaved Africans ashore in the British colony of Jamestown, Virginia in 1619 1. Throughout the 17th century, European settlers in North America turned to enslaved Africans as a cheaper, more plentiful labor source than indentured servants 1. By the mid-19th century, America’s westward expansion and the abolition movement provoked a great debate over slavery that would tear the nation apart in the bloody Civil War 1." Bing AI.

By the time of the civil war slavery was not legal in the northern states but anyone visiting from a slave state could keep their slaves.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

By the time of the civil war slavery was not legal in the northern states but anyone visiting from a slave state could keep their slaves.

Thank your acceptance of the facts. Here are more facts, according to Bing AI:

"No, slaveowners could not keep their slaves in northern free states in 1860. Slavery was illegal in all but 15 states by 1860 1. However, there were still some slaves in most free states up to the 1840 census, and the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 specifically stated that a slave did not become free by entering a free state 2."

 

[hadit]

The Civil War was not fought to end slavery.

Yet that was the result.

 

[marvin martian]

But, that's not how it went. During slavery, there was constant fighting and various methods used by blacks to revolt. In Africa there was a fight between blacks and whites that lasted 400 years. Quite a number of whites died trying to get slaves. You won't learn this at stormfront.

In America slaves would organize work stoppages and slowdowns as well as direct confrontation. Nat Turner was not the only black person to euthanize a slaveowner.

This video is the story of the great John Horse, a Black Seminole who was left out of the history books for a very good reason.

"The story of John Horse and the Black Seminoles has been largely untold, but they deserve to be remembered for a number of reasons: - They created the largest haven in the U.S. South for runaway slaves.- They led the largest slave revolt in U.S. history.- They secured the only emancipation of rebellious slaves prior to the U.S. Civil War.- The formed the largest mass exodus of slaves across the United States and, ultimately, to Mexico."

Then you turned around and shit on it by voting for scum like this:

 

[my2¢]

This video is the story of the great John Horse, a Black Seminole who was left out of the history books for a very good reason.

Watching the linked video brought to my mind The Trail of Tears and the plight of the Cherokee rather than slavery.

 

[marvin martian]

Watching the linked video brought to my mind The Trail of Tears and the plight of the Cherokee rather than slavery.

The Cherokee people owned black slaves.

Native American slave ownership - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[The Irish Ram]

The Civil War was not fought to end slavery.

Then you need to get back in that cotton field, boy...

 

[IM2]

How two centuries of slave revolts shaped American history​

The daring and desperate acts of rebellion from New York to the Caribbean shattered contemporary stereotypes of enslaved peoples and challenged the institution of slavery itself.

The beginning of chattel slavery in North America birthed something else: Rebellion. Enslaved people didn’t just engage in passive resistance against slaveholders—they planned and participated in armed revolts. Between the 17th and 19th centuries, enslaved Africans and African Americans in British North America and the United States staged hundreds of revolts.

Fed by a longing for freedom and occasionally inspired by slave actions in other parts of the region— especially the Caribbean—slave uprisings in the United States were daring, desperate, and inevitably doomed. Along the way, the organizers and participants of the rebellions shattered stereotypes of compliant, contented slaves, and challenged the institution of slavery itself.

Revolts evolved alongside slavery. The first known slave rebellion in one of England’s American colonies took place in Gloucester County, Virginia in 1663, 44 years after the first slaves arrived in the British colony. The Servants Plot, as it was known, involved white and black indentured servants who rebelled against the colony’s exploitative tobacco cultivation industry. Their plot failed and at least four men were hanged.

These are just a few of the revolts.

1663: Servants Plot, Gloucester County, Virginia (four or more executed)

1739: Stono Rebellion, Stono, South Carolina (44 executed)

1791: Haitian Revolution

1741: New York City Conspiracy (over 100 executed or otherwise punished)

1811: German Coast Uprising (at least 84 killed in battle or executed)

1822: Denmark Vesey’s Revolt (35 executed)

1831: Nat Turner’s Revolt (30 executed)

1859: Harper’s Ferry Raid (five executed)

How two centuries of slave revolts shaped American history

The daring and desperate acts of rebellion from New York to the Caribbean shattered contemporary stereotypes of enslaved peoples and challenged the institution of slavery itself.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Blacks chose to die rather than to be enslaved. Blacks did not wait on whites to have a civil war in order to be saved. Learn your real history. Knowledge of self is freedom. You racists are slaves

 

[IM2]

Watching the linked video brought to my mind The Trail of Tears and the plight of the Cherokee rather than slavery.

I started a thread about those things. But, I prefer to let my Native American brothers here comment on their experience unlike some whites here who think they can speak for everybody else.

Those acts were bad too, but your post is evidence of your problem.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

How two centuries of slave revolts shaped American history​

The daring and desperate acts of rebellion from New York to the Caribbean shattered contemporary stereotypes of enslaved peoples and challenged the institution of slavery itself.

The beginning of chattel slavery in North America birthed something else: Rebellion. Enslaved people didn’t just engage in passive resistance against slaveholders—they planned and participated in armed revolts. Between the 17th and 19th centuries, enslaved Africans and African Americans in British North America and the United States staged hundreds of revolts.

Fed by a longing for freedom and occasionally inspired by slave actions in other parts of the region— especially the Caribbean—slave uprisings in the United States were daring, desperate, and inevitably doomed. Along the way, the organizers and participants of the rebellions shattered stereotypes of compliant, contented slaves, and challenged the institution of slavery itself.

Revolts evolved alongside slavery. The first known slave rebellion in one of England’s American colonies took place in Gloucester County, Virginia in 1663, 44 years after the first slaves arrived in the British colony. The Servants Plot, as it was known, involved white and black indentured servants who rebelled against the colony’s exploitative tobacco cultivation industry. Their plot failed and at least four men were hanged.

These are just a few of the revolts.

1663: Servants Plot, Gloucester County, Virginia (four or more executed)

1739: Stono Rebellion, Stono, South Carolina (44 executed)

1791: Haitian Revolution

1741: New York City Conspiracy (over 100 executed or otherwise punished)

1811: German Coast Uprising (at least 84 killed in battle or executed)

1822: Denmark Vesey’s Revolt (35 executed)

1831: Nat Turner’s Revolt (30 executed)

1859: Harper’s Ferry Raid (five executed)

How two centuries of slave revolts shaped American history

The daring and desperate acts of rebellion from New York to the Caribbean shattered contemporary stereotypes of enslaved peoples and challenged the institution of slavery itself.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Blacks chose to die rather than to be enslaved. Blacks did not wait on whites to have a civil war in order to be saved. Learn your real history. Knowledge of self is freedom. You racists are slaves

Some blacks chose to die rather than to be enslaved.

Most waited until the Civil War came and more than a million walked into Union lines.

 

[IM2]

Some blacks chose to die rather than to be enslaved.

Most waited until the Civil War came and more than a million walked into Union lines.

It was more than some and yes there were blacks who walked into Union lines.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It was more than some and yes there were blacks who walked into Union lines.

Only the Civil War ended black slavery literally and the 13th Amendment constitutionally.

 

[TNHarley]

They didnt die to free blacks. They died because of $$$
The civil war was not fought over slavery.

 

[toobfreak]

Whites Died to Free Blacks They Tell Us.​

Too bad no one can claim that blacks ever died to free whites!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

They didnt die to free blacks. They died because of $$$
The civil war was not fought over slavery.

and yet ever state that left the Union STATED they left over slavery go figure.

 

[TNHarley]

and yet ever state that left the Union STATED they left over slavery go figure.

Yes, states seceded over slavery. But slavery is not why the war was fought. The war fought over money. Lincoln even said so, himself.
Lincoln said if no one seceded, they would get permanent slavery, FFS.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes, states seceded over slavery. But slavery is not why the war was fought. The war fought over money. Lincoln even said so, himself.
Lincoln said if no one seceded, they would get permanent slavery, FFS.

No, he said he had no intention of doing anything about slavery while President. The South overreacted and caused what they feared to happen. They left because they thought Lincoln would end slavery. They worried that no more slave states would be admitted and that eventually the vote would be there to outlaw it in congress. Instead of 20 more years of slavery they got 4 and a war.

 

[TNHarley]

No, he said he had no intention of doing anything about slavery while President. The South overreacted and caused what they feared to happen. They left because they thought Lincoln would end slavery. They worried that no more slave states would be admitted and that eventually the vote would be there to outlaw it in congress. Instead of 20 more years of slavery they got 4 and a war.

Wrong.
“I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution—which amendment, however, I have not seen—has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service ... holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.”
Meaning he was going to sign the bill.
Again, the reason for secession doesnt matter. Secession and war is two different events. The war was fought over the economy.
Lincoln even said if the states came back to the union, they could keep their slaves. I mean, come on. You can keep up the lie that people died to free the slaves but it isnt true. People just hold on to that, for some ludicrous reason, like it diminishes the historical racism of this country.
It doesnt.