Whistleblower Complaint Changes, and Ukraine Treay Show Unraveling of Impeachment Theory

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This is such a tangled up ball of snarling yarn.

It appears that the whistleblower did tell the IG that key elements of his complaint were in fact gathered first hand.

Intelligence watchdog now says whistleblower claimed 'first-hand' knowledge, in departure from declassified complaint

While the declassified complaint left open the possibility of having some firsthand knowledge -- by saying he or she was not a direct witness to "most" events -- the latest ICIG statement suggests the apparent direct knowledge composed a key part of the initial filing. This would be at odds as well with acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire's testimony describing the claims as "hearsay." 0requests for comment from Fox News about the apparent discrepancy.

Republicans, meanwhile, sought answers from the intelligence community on Monday, after a report in The Federalist revealed the intelligence community's whistleblower form was recently revised to drop a requirement that such complaints include firsthand information in order to be sent to Congress.

Although such a requirement does not appear in relevant law, it was seemingly an important procedural hurdle for intelligence community whistleblowers -- who had been required to certify that they had firsthand information in order to escalate their complaints.​


But on top of all this lying and 'adaptive testimony', we are now told that we have all along had a treaty to cooperate with Ukraine, and vice versa, on law enforcement matters.

A Little-Known, Clinton-Approved Treaty Lets Ukraine Help US Investigate Criminal Cases

The treaty in question is the Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, ratified by the U.S. Senate on Oct. 18, 2000.

While lawyers will have to dig into the exact wording of the treaty to tease out its applicability, an initial reading certainly lends itself to Trump’s defense....

The treaty, crafted with drug trafficking in mind, allows either country to call on the other for assistance in “taking the testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records and other items of evidence; locating or identifying persons or items; serving documents; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to immobilization and forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and, rendering any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the Requested State,” according to the State Department’s summary.

That’s a long list, and according to the State Department, it’s “non-exclusive,” which means that there are many other forms of assistance the treaty could facilitate. One such form could be an investigation of a group called Crowdstrike, which is the same group that the DNC brought in to investigate hacking and are, as Buzzfeed senior reporter Ryan Broderick said in an NPR interview, “sort of the ones that started the whole idea of collusion with Russia.”​

This whole thing is crumbling around the Democrats ears with the only obvious colateral damage being done is to the Biden Clan and the Intel Community Praetorian Guard.
 
This is such a tangled up ball of snarling yarn.

It appears that the whistleblower did tell the IG that key elements of his complaint were in fact gathered first hand.

Intelligence watchdog now says whistleblower claimed 'first-hand' knowledge, in departure from declassified complaint

While the declassified complaint left open the possibility of having some firsthand knowledge -- by saying he or she was not a direct witness to "most" events -- the latest ICIG statement suggests the apparent direct knowledge composed a key part of the initial filing. This would be at odds as well with acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire's testimony describing the claims as "hearsay." 0requests for comment from Fox News about the apparent discrepancy.

Republicans, meanwhile, sought answers from the intelligence community on Monday, after a report in The Federalist revealed the intelligence community's whistleblower form was recently revised to drop a requirement that such complaints include firsthand information in order to be sent to Congress.

Although such a requirement does not appear in relevant law, it was seemingly an important procedural hurdle for intelligence community whistleblowers -- who had been required to certify that they had firsthand information in order to escalate their complaints.​


But on top of all this lying and 'adaptive testimony', we are now told that we have all along had a treaty to cooperate with Ukraine, and vice versa, on law enforcement matters.

A Little-Known, Clinton-Approved Treaty Lets Ukraine Help US Investigate Criminal Cases

The treaty in question is the Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, ratified by the U.S. Senate on Oct. 18, 2000.

While lawyers will have to dig into the exact wording of the treaty to tease out its applicability, an initial reading certainly lends itself to Trump’s defense....

The treaty, crafted with drug trafficking in mind, allows either country to call on the other for assistance in “taking the testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records and other items of evidence; locating or identifying persons or items; serving documents; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to immobilization and forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and, rendering any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the Requested State,” according to the State Department’s summary.

That’s a long list, and according to the State Department, it’s “non-exclusive,” which means that there are many other forms of assistance the treaty could facilitate. One such form could be an investigation of a group called Crowdstrike, which is the same group that the DNC brought in to investigate hacking and are, as Buzzfeed senior reporter Ryan Broderick said in an NPR interview, “sort of the ones that started the whole idea of collusion with Russia.”​

This whole thing is crumbling around the Democrats ears with the only obvious colateral damage being done is to the Biden Clan and the Intel Community Praetorian Guard.

So. They revised the requirements??


report in The Federalist revealed the intelligence community's whistleblower form was recently revised to drop a requirement that such complaints include firsthand information in order to be sent to Congress.

Now doesn't that seem a little coincidental??
 
So. They revised the requirements??
report in The Federalist revealed the intelligence community's whistleblower form was recently revised to drop a requirement that such complaints include firsthand information in order to be sent to Congress.
Now doesn't that seem a little coincidental??
I do not believe in the plausibility of such extreme 'coincidence'.

This is evidence of a cross agency conspiracy.
 
This is such a tangled up ball of snarling yarn.

It appears that the whistleblower did tell the IG that key elements of his complaint were in fact gathered first hand.

Intelligence watchdog now says whistleblower claimed 'first-hand' knowledge, in departure from declassified complaint

While the declassified complaint left open the possibility of having some firsthand knowledge -- by saying he or she was not a direct witness to "most" events -- the latest ICIG statement suggests the apparent direct knowledge composed a key part of the initial filing. This would be at odds as well with acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire's testimony describing the claims as "hearsay." 0requests for comment from Fox News about the apparent discrepancy.

Republicans, meanwhile, sought answers from the intelligence community on Monday, after a report in The Federalist revealed the intelligence community's whistleblower form was recently revised to drop a requirement that such complaints include firsthand information in order to be sent to Congress.

Although such a requirement does not appear in relevant law, it was seemingly an important procedural hurdle for intelligence community whistleblowers -- who had been required to certify that they had firsthand information in order to escalate their complaints.​


But on top of all this lying and 'adaptive testimony', we are now told that we have all along had a treaty to cooperate with Ukraine, and vice versa, on law enforcement matters.

A Little-Known, Clinton-Approved Treaty Lets Ukraine Help US Investigate Criminal Cases

The treaty in question is the Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, ratified by the U.S. Senate on Oct. 18, 2000.

While lawyers will have to dig into the exact wording of the treaty to tease out its applicability, an initial reading certainly lends itself to Trump’s defense....

The treaty, crafted with drug trafficking in mind, allows either country to call on the other for assistance in “taking the testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records and other items of evidence; locating or identifying persons or items; serving documents; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to immobilization and forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and, rendering any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the Requested State,” according to the State Department’s summary.

That’s a long list, and according to the State Department, it’s “non-exclusive,” which means that there are many other forms of assistance the treaty could facilitate. One such form could be an investigation of a group called Crowdstrike, which is the same group that the DNC brought in to investigate hacking and are, as Buzzfeed senior reporter Ryan Broderick said in an NPR interview, “sort of the ones that started the whole idea of collusion with Russia.”​

This whole thing is crumbling around the Democrats ears with the only obvious colateral damage being done is to the Biden Clan and the Intel Community Praetorian Guard.

So. They revised the requirements??


report in The Federalist revealed the intelligence community's whistleblower form was recently revised to drop a requirement that such complaints include firsthand information in order to be sent to Congress.

Now doesn't that seem a little coincidental??

Just an itsy bitsy
 
So. They revised the requirements??
report in The Federalist revealed the intelligence community's whistleblower form was recently revised to drop a requirement that such complaints include firsthand information in order to be sent to Congress.
Now doesn't that seem a little coincidental??
I do not believe in the plausibility of such extreme 'coincidence'.

This is evidence of a cross agency conspiracy.


They are trying to discredit info coming out of Ukraine
such as the 2 that were Prosecuted and convicted for election interference on behalf of Hillary
 

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