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Many government jobs have a virtual, if not mandatory, requirement for a college degree, but the degree need not be in any particular field or major.
Most government jobs requiring a "professional" (small "p") degree, like accounting or engineering, are filled by people who barely graduated and their prospects in the competitive job market are quite limited. So they go to work as government auditors, inspectors, or regulators. Certainly, this is not true in ALL cases, but on average, the quality of accountants, engineers, and scientists in public sector is markedly lower than their counterparts in private industry.
Also consider that so-called "minorities" are more than welcome in the public sector, and they often walk over the threshhold with marginal degrees from "traditionally Black colleges," and from low-ranked state colleges, holding majors in "Ethnic Studies," "Communications," and other such lightweight nonsense.
I wouldn't be too impressed by the fact that public sector employees are more likely to have college degrees than private sector employees. Candidly speaking, it don't mean shit.
I spent three years in the Army, and worked in procurement for Department of Defense for 5 years.
Most of my colleagues had college degrees at the time, though I did not - I scored in the 98th percentile on the aptitude test (PACE) and, being a veteran, they hired me very reluctantly, assuming that a College Graduate with a degree in political science from bullshit U would be more capable than I was.
Because of my position I frequently saw government accountants (auditors) and engineers interfacing with their counterparts in the private companies who were our contractors. Rarely was a government guy able to "hold his own" in discussions and negotiations. Frequently, the contractors got screwed because the procurement officers were resentful and envious of the professionals on the other side of the table.
as a semi-humorour footnote, the Carter Administration was VERY unhappy with the Government's aptitude test because Blacks and Hispanics could never score high enough to get consideration for a position. His administrator for the Office of Personnel Management decreed that the test was dead - until they could develop one that was structured so that "minorities" would "pass" in the same proportion as caucasians. I laughed my ass off. The test, as described, as given up as an impossible task a few years later, and the Feds then started evaluating applicants purely on grades in college, which REWARDED you for going to a mediocre school and graduating with honors. Nice.
My co-workers were chronically lazy. No one worked a MINUTE of voluntary overtime in the 5 years I was there, despite the fact that we were considered "professionals." I saw people stand up and leave meetings when it was their quitting time (we were on "felex-time"). My whole office religiously look a 1/2 hour break - in the cafeteria - every morning at 9:30 and again at 2pm, something I have never seen in the private sector.
And yet they constantly talked about how busy and productive they were.
Just one office, so I shouldn't make assumptions, but...
lol, the quality of the workforce in government is much better...
yeah, you only have to wait an hour now instead of two at the DMV and the Post office...and talk about rude and dismissive people....but hey, they are working on that...lol
I worked for the guberment just out of high school as a keypunch operator.....and seeing the different types of jobs in government , not many of the jobs need or are required to have college educations...
rdean doesn't live in reality...
I worked for the guberment just out of high school as a keypunch operator.....and seeing the different types of jobs in government , not many of the jobs need or are required to have college educations...
rdean doesn't live in reality...
Keypunch Operator?
Did they let you work the mimeograph machine also?
National Institute on Retirement - Out of Balance?
The study provides an original analysis of data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and finds that:
Jobs in the public sector typically require more education than private sector positions. Thus, state and local employees are twice as likely to hold a college degree or higher as compared to private sector employees. Only 23% of private sector employees have completed college as compared to about 48% in the public sector.
Wages and salaries of state and local employees are lower than those for private sector employees with comparable earnings determinants such as education and work experience. State workers typically earn 11% less and local workers 12% less.
Public workers receive less pay, gap widens
The Center for State and Local Government Excellence's president, Elizabeth Kellar, said that there is a "looming workforce crisis" in the public sector, as a wave of retirement and low pay collide, leaving holes in many highly skilled slots.
"Hiring managers told us that, despite the economy, they find it difficult to fill vacancies for highly skilled [public sector] positions such as engineering, environmental science, information technology and health care professionals," said Kellar. "The compensation gap may have something to do with this."
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Those jobs aren't filled because half the country thinks education is unneeded, liberal and for snobs.
I worked for the guberment just out of high school as a keypunch operator.....and seeing the different types of jobs in government , not many of the jobs need or are required to have college educations...
rdean doesn't live in reality...
Keypunch Operator?
Did they let you work the mimeograph machine also?
I worked for the guberment just out of high school as a keypunch operator.....and seeing the different types of jobs in government , not many of the jobs need or are required to have college educations...
rdean doesn't live in reality...
Keypunch Operator?
Did they let you work the mimeograph machine also?
some of you go out of your way to be an ass.....back then (1972/73) that is what was used...I put in license plate renewal into the state system....but you all put down being a lunch lady that works in a school feeding the children too...so nothing new from you high and mighty snobs...
Keypunch Operator?
Did they let you work the mimeograph machine also?
some of you go out of your way to be an ass.....back then (1972/73) that is what was used...I put in license plate renewal into the state system....but you all put down being a lunch lady that works in a school feeding the children too...so nothing new from you high and mighty snobs...
I put down a Keypunch Operator from 40 years ago thinking that qualifies her to comment on the number of degreed government professionals today
I expect that public school teachers are grouped into government jobs. This results in a large percentage of the government jobs that require college degree.
I worked for the guberment just out of high school as a keypunch operator.....and seeing the different types of jobs in government , not many of the jobs need or are required to have college educations...
rdean doesn't live in reality...
As a "keypunch operator", what "different types" of government jobs did you see? Janitor? Switchboard?
I worked for the guberment just out of high school as a keypunch operator.....and seeing the different types of jobs in government , not many of the jobs need or are required to have college educations...
rdean doesn't live in reality...
As a "keypunch operator", what "different types" of government jobs did you see? Janitor? Switchboard?
like I said, reality and rdean don't go hand in hand
Keypunch Operator?
Did they let you work the mimeograph machine also?
some of you go out of your way to be an ass.....back then (1972/73) that is what was used...I put in license plate renewal into the state system....but you all put down being a lunch lady that works in a school feeding the children too...so nothing new from you high and mighty snobs...
I put down a Keypunch Operator from 40 years ago thinking that qualifies her to comment on the number of degreed government professionals today
I worked for the guberment just out of high school as a keypunch operator.....and seeing the different types of jobs in government , not many of the jobs need or are required to have college educations...
rdean doesn't live in reality...
Keypunch Operator?
Did they let you work the mimeograph machine also?
some of you go out of your way to be an ass.....back then (1972/73) that is what was used...I put in license plate renewal into the state system....but you all put down being a lunch lady that works in a school feeding the children too...so nothing new from you high and mighty snobs...
The government doesnt employ anyone as a Janitor. They hire private contractors to do menial taskssome of you go out of your way to be an ass.....back then (1972/73) that is what was used...I put in license plate renewal into the state system....but you all put down being a lunch lady that works in a school feeding the children too...so nothing new from you high and mighty snobs...
I put down a Keypunch Operator from 40 years ago thinking that qualifies her to comment on the number of degreed government professionals today
Governments typically hire people with degrees in waste management as janitors, regular companies just hire people like rdean.
I expect that public school teachers are grouped into government jobs. This results in a large percentage of the government jobs that require college degree.
Let's not forget Military officers
