CDZ Which Party are fascists?

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    Let's drop the term fascist and describe the behavior:

    Who supports equal rights and equal opportunities for all citizens?

    Who supports preventative health care for all citizens cradle to grave?

    Who supports Medicare, Medicaid and CHIP?

    Who supports universal suffrage?

    Who supports progressive taxation?

    Who supports Social Security?

    Who supports targeted tax credits for those at or below the poverty line?

    Who supports a regional minimum wage based on the CPI?

    Who supports the EPA?

    Who supports government support for green and renewable energy R&D?
     
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    Right there you are proving the long-mistaken idea that fascism is a right wing thing. Centralized government, autocratic, dictatorial, regimentation, these are all the mantra of the Big Government Lefties! Look at the kids at UC Berkeley that won't let anyone speak there whom they disagree with--- ---fascists! What is the point if you only listen to people who tell you what you want to hear? Where is the leaning?

    forcible suppression of opposition

    Are you not describing the Obama Administration? The weaponized IRS that suppressed Romney organizations so Obama could steal a second term? Lois Lerner? The unveiling of a hundred names to try to unmask Trump campaign people by Obama to help Hillary steal the election against the Espionage Act?

    The Hard Left Wing of today ARE your modern NeoFascists:


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    We have neither liberals nor conservatives now. We have neocons and neolibs who both foment societal division amongst the unsubstantial people while both pursue neoliberal economic policies that cannibalize american society to chase empire and redistribute wealth to the substantial people. The "good guys" and the "bad guys" are all riding on the same train running down the same tracks, merely in differnt cars.
     
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    Another poor fool caught in the mind crippling grips of partisanshitheadism.
     
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    What party is he in?
     
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    It's stupefying that those whose entire posting careers depend on the Composition Fallacy --- nevertheless need continuous education on how it works.

    Quick easy example --
    "David Duke founded his own chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.
    David Duke is a Republican.
    Therefore, all Republicans have founded their own chapter of the Ku Klux Klan".​

    Obviously not all Republicans have founded their own Klan chapter. The conclusion does not follow. This is a Composition Fallacy --- ass-uming a trait of a single entity is by extension true of any group he affiliates with.

    "Ed Markey is IMO a fascist. Ed Markey wears grey suits. Therefore all men who wear grey suits are fascists".

    Does not follow. FALLACY. Causation is not demonstrated.

    Not rocket surgery.
     
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    That doesn't change the fact hate speech laws are a step, a big step, toward fascism. And if you look his support comes from other Democrats. Conyers in Michigan is one of them, and a member of the Black caucus, which are Democrats.
     
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    It also doesn't change the fact that it's a Composition Fallacy.
    Nor does it fail to introduce a new one. The Congressional Black Caucus is nonpartisan and has included Republicans including Allen West and Mia Love.

    And as far as speech laws ---- Reince Priebus Admits Rump Administration Looking Into Changing First Amendment

    Again, it would be the same Composition Fallacy to suggest "therefore all Republicans are looking into changing the First Amendment, right after they found their own Klan chapter".

    Just so you know.
     
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    RINO's don't count.
     

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