Where's That Executive Order?

[Dana7360]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

 

[pinqy]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

I’m sure he’ll draft the EO right after he makes public his tax returns like he promised.

 

[BlackFlag]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

I’m sure he’ll draft the EO right after he makes public his tax returns like he promised.

Or after Mexico sends the check for the wall

 

[Natural Citizen]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

There's nothing in the 14th which establishes birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants who another country can claim allegiance.

Nothing at all.

Here's the thing. It's not always about just trying to hurry up and get elected.

It's about changing the course of history. Ya know? It's about changing and controlling the terms of controversy. It's about winning the conversation.

So, finally we're talking about something very, very important that needs to be resolved.

Birthright citizenship for children of parents of whom another country can claim allegiance has never been adjudicated. Nor is it any place to be found in the 14th.

It's not going away. It's out there now.

 

[Crixus]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

Where were you?

 

[Natural Citizen]

And if anyone thinks it has been adjudicated, please do tell me when and where and who adjudicated it. Thanks!

 

[peach174]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

Signed 2 days after election.
President Trump Signs Executive Order Denying Asylum to Illegal Border Crossers - Live Trading News

President Trump Signs Executive Order Denying Asylum to Illegal Border Crossers

Friday, US President Donald Trump invoked extraordinary national security powers to deny asylum to migrants who enter the country illegally, tightening the border as caravans of Central Americans slowly approach the United States.

President Trump is using the same powers he used to push through a version of the travel ban that was upheld by the Supreme Court. The proclamation puts into place regulations adopted Thursday that circumvent laws stating that anyone is eligible for asylum no matter how he or she enters the country.

“We need people in our country but they have to come in legally and they have to have merit,” President Trump said Friday as he prepared to depart for Paris.

 

[BookShaka]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

This is you. Just add an “I hate Trump” in there.

 

[OldLady]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

There's nothing in the 14th which establishes birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants who another country can claim allegiance.

Nothing at all.

Here's the thing. It's not always about just trying to hurry up and get elected.

It's about changing the course of history. Ya know? It's about changing and controlling the terms of controversy. It's about winning the conversation.

So, finally we're talking about something very, very important that needs to be resolved.

Birthright citizenship for children of parents of whom another country can claim allegiance has never been adjudicated. Nor is it any place to be found in the 14th.

It's not going away. It's out there now.

I don't see what's wrong with the President's idea. If neither parent is documented, they aren't supposed to be here in the first place, and why should the children be given citizenship? That's nuts. The biggest problem with enforcing it that I see is, parents will have to show proof of citizenship in order to get a birth certificate for the child, and a lot of kids will start being born in the bedroom instead of in the hospital, which is probably not the healthiest thing for them.

 

[Claudette]

And if anyone thinks it has been adjudicated, please do tell me when and where and who adjudicated it. Thanks!

It hasn't been but it should have been long, long ago.

 

[Claudette]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

You are a real joke and worth a laugh.

Your blue wave was barely a ripple and the 14th will land in the SC.

Carry on laughable.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I don't see what's wrong with the President's idea. If neither parent is documented, they aren't supposed to be here in the first place, and why should the children be given citizenship? That's nuts. The biggest problem with enforcing it that I see is, parents will have to show proof of citizenship in order to get a birth certificate for the child, and a lot of kids will start being born in the bedroom instead of in the hospital, which is probably not the healthiest thing for them.

I doubt it was the President's idea. He's a moron, he'd never think of something like that. Someone told him and it was clearly someone who knew what they were talking about, even though the mainstream media tried to spin the whole thing out of whack.

 

[Dana7360]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

I’m sure he’ll draft the EO right after he makes public his tax returns like he promised.

Exactly.

 

[Dana7360]

I've read the replies from republicans in this thread. It's obvious to me the point of my post went very much over their heads.

The man lied to you. He manipulated you. Yet you have no problem with it. You ignore it and try to make excuses for it. You go off on that amendment while knowing that it's the law of the land and nothing will ever change that.

Keep ignoring that you're being played, that you're being manipulated, that you're being lied to non stop.

Elections have consequences.

So do people who lie and try to manipulate. There are consequences.

The congress will unfortunately be reduced to non stop investigations into the non stop crimes and conspiracies of the trump administration and campaign.

The republicans will not budge on anything so all the legislation that comes out of the House of Reps will be killed in the senate. All the legislation that the republicans try to pass in the Senate will be filibustered by the democrats. The only things that will get done are things that neither party can stop the other party from doing.

So with non stop reporting of all the crimes and conspiracies of trump, his campaign and administration, it's going to be much harder for republicans to win elections they don't suppress the votes.

This is very bad for our nation. We need two strong parties for our nation to remain a democratic republic. Republicans are destroying their party with trump as the head of their party and what he's turning it into.

Yet republicans just lap up the lies and manipulations while their own party is being torn to shreds from within.

 

[Claudette]

I've read the replies from republicans in this thread. It's obvious to me the point of my post went very much over their heads.

The man lied to you. He manipulated you. Yet you have no problem with it. You ignore it and try to make excuses for it. You go off on that amendment while knowing that it's the law of the land and nothing will ever change that.

Keep ignoring that you're being played, that you're being manipulated, that you're being lied to non stop.

Elections have consequences.

So do people who lie and try to manipulate. There are consequences.

The congress will unfortunately be reduced to non stop investigations into the non stop crimes and conspiracies of the trump administration and campaign.

The republicans will not budge on anything so all the legislation that comes out of the House of Reps will be killed in the senate. All the legislation that the republicans try to pass in the Senate will be filibustered by the democrats. The only things that will get done are things that neither party can stop the other party from doing.

So with non stop reporting of all the crimes and conspiracies of trump, his campaign and administration, it's going to be much harder for republicans to win elections they don't suppress the votes.

This is very bad for our nation. We need two strong parties for our nation to remain a democratic republic. Republicans are destroying their party with trump as the head of their party and what he's turning it into.

Yet republicans just lap up the lies and manipulations while their own party is being torn to shreds from within.

You sure do provide a good belly laugh.

 

[pinqy]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

There's nothing in the 14th which establishes birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants who another country can claim allegiance.

Nothing at all.

Here's the thing. It's not always about just trying to hurry up and get elected.

It's about changing the course of history. Ya know? It's about changing and controlling the terms of controversy. It's about winning the conversation.

So, finally we're talking about something very, very important that needs to be resolved.

Birthright citizenship for children of parents of whom another country can claim allegiance has never been adjudicated. Nor is it any place to be found in the 14th.

It's not going away. It's out there now.

I don't see what's wrong with the President's idea..

What’s wrong with it is that an EO doesn’t override the Constitution.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

And “under the jurisdiction of” means “subject to the laws of.” Those with diplomatic immunity are not, and, at the time, Indian Reservations were not.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

I’m sure he’ll draft the EO right after he makes public his tax returns like he promised.

beat me to it!

 

[Claudette]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

There's nothing in the 14th which establishes birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants who another country can claim allegiance.

Nothing at all.

Here's the thing. It's not always about just trying to hurry up and get elected.

It's about changing the course of history. Ya know? It's about changing and controlling the terms of controversy. It's about winning the conversation.

So, finally we're talking about something very, very important that needs to be resolved.

Birthright citizenship for children of parents of whom another country can claim allegiance has never been adjudicated. Nor is it any place to be found in the 14th.

It's not going away. It's out there now.

I don't see what's wrong with the President's idea..

What’s wrong with it is that an EO doesn’t override the Constitution.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

And “under the jurisdiction of” means “subject to the laws of.” Those with diplomatic immunity are not, and, at the time, Indian Reservations were not.

Jurisdiction is the key word. Are they from America or are they loyal to another country. Are they citizens of another Country,

Birthright citizenship for children of parents of whom another country can claim allegiance has never been adjudicated. Nor is it any place to be found in the 14th.

This is from a previous post by a guy who knows more about it than I do. Natural Citizen.

The SC will decide and its about damned time they took a look at the 14th and what it means.

 

[Issa]

Just before the election trump was saying that he had the authority to void the 14th amendment with an executive order. Saying that he was going to write that order.

He didn't write that order.

I wonder why?

Could it be that he was full of garbage and he knew it? That he only wanted to "fire up" republicans to vote so that the blue wave he knew was coming wasn't as bad?

That blue wave came. It was bad for trump. He expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the Senate but he only got a couple. He went to Montana many times to get rid of Jon Tester yet Tester still won. Same with a couple other democrats he thought he could get voted out of office. The House of Reps is solidly in the hands of the democrats. The democrats control all legislation in the Senate with the filibuster. The next two years don't look very good for trump.

This man lies and manipulates republicans and the republicans just don't care.

The 14th Amendment is never going away.

No matter how much trump lies and says he's going to get rid of it.

All he was doing is lying to you to get people out to vote. Nothing more and it didn't work the way he wanted it to work.

The orange says lot of shit haha...I say let's elect him for the 2nd term just take the house and Senate from him LOL

 

[kyzr]

I've read the replies from republicans in this thread. It's obvious to me the point of my post went very much over their heads.

The man lied to you. He manipulated you. Yet you have no problem with it. You ignore it and try to make excuses for it. You go off on that amendment while knowing that it's the law of the land and nothing will ever change that.

Keep ignoring that you're being played, that you're being manipulated, that you're being lied to non stop.

Elections have consequences.

So do people who lie and try to manipulate. There are consequences.

The congress will unfortunately be reduced to non stop investigations into the non stop crimes and conspiracies of the trump administration and campaign.

The republicans will not budge on anything so all the legislation that comes out of the House of Reps will be killed in the senate. All the legislation that the republicans try to pass in the Senate will be filibustered by the democrats. The only things that will get done are things that neither party can stop the other party from doing.

So with non stop reporting of all the crimes and conspiracies of trump, his campaign and administration, it's going to be much harder for republicans to win elections they don't suppress the votes.

This is very bad for our nation. We need two strong parties for our nation to remain a democratic republic. Republicans are destroying their party with trump as the head of their party and what he's turning it into.

Yet republicans just lap up the lies and manipulations while their own party is being torn to shreds from within.

Get over yourself. Trump is a different type of politician, since he's not really a politician. Trump will try to keep his promises, but his team needs to dot the I's and cross the T's for any EO that won't need 3 tries like the travel ban. We agree that "elections have consequences". Trump has the presidency, and the GOP still has the Senate.

As for lying, I'm still waiting for Obama's promised $2,500 saving on Obamacare. Instead my deductibles are so high we can't afford to see a doctor.

The dem Congress can investigate all they want, that clown car makes the dumb & dumber look like brain trusts. They will get nowhere because they're idiots, and have always been low IQ idiots.

Gridlock is a good thing where dems are concerned, so lets hope the GOP lame duck session gets the wall, immigration reform, and kills Obamacare.

You may be right about Trump, but we're still looking forward to 2020. Got any candidates that can beat Trump? Didn't think so.
Hope RBG can hang in...6 more years...