Where is a democrat with christian values suppose to go?

[progressive hunter]

Where is a democrat with christian values suppose to go?

One's religious beliefs should not affect or influence their principles when it comes to government of, by, and for the people. PERIOD!!!!

That's the problem with the Jesus Nazi wing of the GOP. They apparently believe that all sin should be criminalized, which ironically tends to demonstrate a deep-seated and consciously repressed doubt in the existence of an afterlife. They also believe that Christianity must poke its nose into everything.

If Americans could have compartmentalized and separated their religious believes from their political ideology starting well over 100 years ago, we would have MUCH fewer problems.

LIBERTY should be the first concern of every American citizen, when it comes to political ideology.

My question remains: why is it THE LEAST of their concern?

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thier religious beliefs should effect their vote but not how the country is ran,,,thats what the constitution is for,,,

 

[Seawytch]

Don't blame the gays for wanting the same lollipops everyone else gets. The people did that to themselves.

doesnt change the fact you were wrong as to why the government is involved in marriage,,,

get rid of the lollipops and get the government out of personal lives like it should be

Which is what I said at the very beginning of our conversation.

But as long as the government is giving out lollipops, then we must abide by the Constitution and provide equal protection of the laws.

as per the 10th amendment the constitution forbids them being involved in marriage in anyway,,,
so I agree lets follow the constitution

The 10th amendment forbids who from being "involved"?

the feds in this case,,,

Well, over a couple score years of precedent says you're wrong, but go ahead and try to take away all the benefits associated with civil marriage. It won't be the gays fighting you tooth and nail.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Do you not understand what the point of a primary is?

Absolutely.

Do you understand that it's the First Amendment which guarantees the right to freedom of association? To force Independents to register as Democrat turns the constitution on its head.

 

[irosie91]

There is a special place in LIMBO ----where both Christian and Jewish democrats (like me) can wait it out

Rosie, you know that the democrats are the party of Antisemitism. They seek to destroy Israel and have aligned with Hamas and ISIS. democrats are not the party you grew up with. They really are the Nazi party reborn. You know this.

yes, of course---the donkey is TEMPORARILY (I hope) pixilated. Today people who
are democrats are mostly left-overs from the LSD era.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Im a registered democrat because you can't vote in the primary's as a independent where I live.

So much for free and fair elections.

Texas does this shit too. You can only vote in one primary and must declare a party affiliation to vote in the primaries.

One should be allowed to vote in all primaries or it looks like a rigged sham (it is).

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So you think Democrats should be able to choose who the Republican candidate for president should be?

Why does it matter, if Republicans can do the same?

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It's their party, their rules. Did you know that Democrats let independent voters vote in their primaries?...Republicans do not.

So, these parties who are asking us all to vote for their candidate in the general election will not allow us to do the same in the primaries?

What if there is a candidate in the Republican Party Primary who is MUCH more appealing to many more Americans than the front runner (Ron Paul comes to mind)? The GOP is telling voters (regardless of affiliation) that we cannot be trusted. They know best. We are only allowed to vote in the GA for their hand-picked shit stain. We really don't have a choice?

Maybe it's time for a constitutional amendment to eliminate political parties? I know that will never happen (given the duopoly strangle hold) so I am prepared to go to war over it.



.

 

[DOTR]

I heard a little of the lgbt town hall that CNN aired last night. They pointed out a women there they said has a 9 year old transgender girl and that wasn't right to me. That is way to young for a person to even know anything about that. I don't know if their is some kind of special situation but that to me should be in the realm of child abuse.

Im a registered democrat because you can't vote in the primary's as a independent where I live. I belive largely people should be able to live their lives the way they want. I was for gay's have civil unions and not marriage, marriage is biblical. Even the rainbow is biblical and how did the lgbt community take it?

The democrats running for president are going way too far to the left especially with the hole lgbt movment and some other things. To me republicans have their problems to. The republican party is like Gordon Gekko in the movie Wall Street. What do you do?

A Christian should go anywhere but the Democrat Party. The two are incomparable.

And yes it’s always kids they are after.

 

[progressive hunter]

doesnt change the fact you were wrong as to why the government is involved in marriage,,,

get rid of the lollipops and get the government out of personal lives like it should be

Which is what I said at the very beginning of our conversation.

But as long as the government is giving out lollipops, then we must abide by the Constitution and provide equal protection of the laws.

as per the 10th amendment the constitution forbids them being involved in marriage in anyway,,,
so I agree lets follow the constitution

The 10th amendment forbids who from being "involved"?

the feds in this case,,,

Well, over a couple score years of precedent says you're wrong, but go ahead and try to take away all the benefits associated with civil marriage. It won't be the gays fighting you tooth and nail.

precedent doesnt override constitutional law,,,and I cant help it if a bunch of freeloaders get their lollipops taken away,,,,

 

[Andylusion]

Where is a democrat with christian values suppose to go?

One's religious beliefs should not affect or influence their principles when it comes to government of, by, and for the people. PERIOD!!!!

That's the problem with the Jesus Nazi wing of the GOP. They apparently believe that all sin should be criminalized, which ironically tends to demonstrate a deep-seated and consciously repressed doubt in the existence of an afterlife. They also believe that Christianity must poke its nose into everything.

If Americans could have compartmentalized and separated their religious believes from their political ideology starting well over 100 years ago, we would have MUCH fewer problems.

LIBERTY should be the first concern of every American citizen, when it comes to political ideology.

My question remains: why is it THE LEAST of their concern?

.

You are insane. Religious beliefs should affect everything about your life, or you shouldn't bother pretending to have religious beliefs.

The founding of this country was based on religious beliefs. The justice system, the policies of government, the method of determining our leadership, was all based on religious beliefs.

Liberty itself, was a religious concept, ground in faith.

If you doubt that, look at the Soviet union were an absence of religious values, led to the enslavement and mass slaughter of millions.

 

[DOTR]

So much for free and fair elections.

Texas does this shit too. You can only vote in one primary and must declare a party affiliation to vote in the primaries.

One should be allowed to vote in all primaries or it looks like a rigged sham (it is).

.

So you think Democrats should be able to choose who the Republican candidate for president should be?

Why does it matter, if Republicans can do the same?

.

It's their party, their rules. Did you know that Democrats let independent voters vote in their primaries?...Republicans do not.

So, these parties who are asking us all to vote for their candidate in the general election will not allow us to do the same in the primaries?

What if there is a candidate in the Republican Party Primary who is MUCH more appealing to many more Americans than the front runner (Ron Paul comes to mind)? The GOP is telling voters (regardless of affiliation) that we cannot be trusted. They know best. We are only allowed to vote in the GA for their hand-picked shit stain. We really don't have a choice?

Maybe it's time for a constitutional amendment to eliminate political parties? I know that will never happen (given the duopoly strangle hold) so I am prepared to go to war over it.



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That’s right genius. The Republicans don’t trust Democrats to choose their candidate.
You are some kind of bright.

 

[Natural Citizen]

That’s right genius. The Republicans don’t trust Democrats to choose their candidate.
You are some kind of bright.

The RNC corrupts the nomination process the same way the DNC does. And the Republican party is no less authoritarian and anti-liberty than the Democrat party.

The RNC rules, like the DNC rules, are always changed in order to keep Independents off the debate stage, even after they've already won the right to participate.

As always, in the name of party 'unity'.

If anyone is under the illusion that the Republican Party is any less corrupt than the Democrat party, they're in dire need of reeducation.

Every year the number of Independents grows because people are sick of this fake two-party system. It was 50% during the 2016 cycle. Both sides of the party of one in D.C. know the percentage of Independent voters grows every cycle and both sides of the party of one in D.C. go out of their way to make sure they do something about it every election cycle.

 

[Billiejeens]

I heard a little of the lgbt town hall that CNN aired last night. They pointed out a women there they said has a 9 year old transgender girl and that wasn't right to me. That is way to young for a person to even know anything about that. I don't know if their is some kind of special situation but that to me should be in the realm of child abuse.

Im a registered democrat because you can't vote in the primary's as a independent where I live. I belive largely people should be able to live their lives the way they want. I was for gay's have civil unions and not marriage, marriage is biblical. Even the rainbow is biblical and how did the lgbt community take it?

The democrats running for president are going way too far to the left especially with the hole lgbt movment and some other things. To me republicans have their problems to. The republican party is like Gordon Gekko in the movie Wall Street. What do you do?

You are a Republican.
How many people did Gecko help to have a better life by spending money?

 

[Billiejeens]

There is a special place in LIMBO ----where both Christian and Jewish democrats (like me) can wait it out

Wait for what?

 

[Billiejeens]

I heard a little of the lgbt town hall that CNN aired last night. They pointed out a women there they said has a 9 year old transgender girl and that wasn't right to me. That is way to young for a person to even know anything about that. I don't know if their is some kind of special situation but that to me should be in the realm of child abuse.

Im a registered democrat because you can't vote in the primary's as a independent where I live. I belive largely people should be able to live their lives the way they want. I was for gay's have civil unions and not marriage, marriage is biblical. Even the rainbow is biblical and how did the lgbt community take it?

The democrats running for president are going way too far to the left especially with the hole lgbt movment and some other things. To me republicans have their problems to. The republican party is like Gordon Gekko in the movie Wall Street. What do you do?

An American is supposed to go for Trump and put American interest first.

That's a self-contradictory statement. One cannot be for Trump and for America at the same time.

False -
President Trump is America.

 

[Billiejeens]

A Christian Democrat is like a Jewish nazi. Either not a real Democrat or not a real Christian.

So tell me many ways Trump the adulter is a real Christian...

the pope does love the sinner-------uhm......are you a FIRST STONE caster?

Does God love only Republican sinners?

Francis is an easy going, fun loving, Latin american

That bears no resemblance to a true Religious Leader.

 

[Billiejeens]

I heard a little of the lgbt town hall that CNN aired last night. They pointed out a women there they said has a 9 year old transgender girl and that wasn't right to me. That is way to young for a person to even know anything about that. I don't know if their is some kind of special situation but that to me should be in the realm of child abuse.

Im a registered democrat because you can't vote in the primary's as a independent where I live. I belive largely people should be able to live their lives the way they want. I was for gay's have civil unions and not marriage, marriage is biblical. Even the rainbow is biblical and how did the lgbt community take it?

The democrats running for president are going way too far to the left especially with the hole lgbt movment and some other things. To me republicans have their problems to. The republican party is like Gordon Gekko in the movie Wall Street. What do you do?

I feel your pain.

I'm a conservative who leans libertarian. I was a Republican all my life. But Trump has made it impossible to be both at the same time, so I resigned as a Republican.

I have no party to go to. That is actually quite freeing. No longer am I a partisan straight party ticket voter.

I have stopped voting at the federal level. If you vote for the lesser of two EVILS, you are still voting for EVIL.

You can always write in a name l like I do from time to time.

When one of my daughters was in first grade, she asked for friend to have a sleepover. We said fine, it was cute.

The little girl was dropped off by her grandfather. She didn't live with her parents for unknown reasons.

She was filthy. He clothes were filthy and her body was streaked with dirt. So my wife an I made the very risky decision to give her a bath and wash her clothes. I asked my wife to do the bath since it was a little girl.

Well, it turns out "she" was a transgender. She had picked out her own girl name, too.

At that young an age, girls and boys have the same little kid bodies. You let a little boy's hair grow out, and they can easily pass as a girl.

For whatever reason, this kid wanted to be a girl. It could have been a phase. There certainly seemed to be something going on with the home life. Maybe she passed through it, maybe she didn't.

We didn't tell our kids about the situation. We let the kid be a girl with our kids being none the wiser.

As for gay marriage, I'm fine with it being called marriage. Religion does not own the word, and so-called religious people used to use their Bible to ban interracial marriage. There really isn't any difference between their arguments and the arguments of anti-gay bigots today.

This whole issue isn't about religion. It is about government cash and prizes. The bigots want gays to be denied access to the same government cash and prizes awarded to their marriages by the laws of the land.

This is about equal protection of the laws. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking it's about religion.

the constitution party is always a safe option,,,

They Governing well for you?

 

[progressive hunter]

I heard a little of the lgbt town hall that CNN aired last night. They pointed out a women there they said has a 9 year old transgender girl and that wasn't right to me. That is way to young for a person to even know anything about that. I don't know if their is some kind of special situation but that to me should be in the realm of child abuse.

Im a registered democrat because you can't vote in the primary's as a independent where I live. I belive largely people should be able to live their lives the way they want. I was for gay's have civil unions and not marriage, marriage is biblical. Even the rainbow is biblical and how did the lgbt community take it?

The democrats running for president are going way too far to the left especially with the hole lgbt movment and some other things. To me republicans have their problems to. The republican party is like Gordon Gekko in the movie Wall Street. What do you do?

I feel your pain.

I'm a conservative who leans libertarian. I was a Republican all my life. But Trump has made it impossible to be both at the same time, so I resigned as a Republican.

I have no party to go to. That is actually quite freeing. No longer am I a partisan straight party ticket voter.

I have stopped voting at the federal level. If you vote for the lesser of two EVILS, you are still voting for EVIL.

You can always write in a name l like I do from time to time.

When one of my daughters was in first grade, she asked for friend to have a sleepover. We said fine, it was cute.

The little girl was dropped off by her grandfather. She didn't live with her parents for unknown reasons.

She was filthy. He clothes were filthy and her body was streaked with dirt. So my wife an I made the very risky decision to give her a bath and wash her clothes. I asked my wife to do the bath since it was a little girl.

Well, it turns out "she" was a transgender. She had picked out her own girl name, too.

At that young an age, girls and boys have the same little kid bodies. You let a little boy's hair grow out, and they can easily pass as a girl.

For whatever reason, this kid wanted to be a girl. It could have been a phase. There certainly seemed to be something going on with the home life. Maybe she passed through it, maybe she didn't.

We didn't tell our kids about the situation. We let the kid be a girl with our kids being none the wiser.

As for gay marriage, I'm fine with it being called marriage. Religion does not own the word, and so-called religious people used to use their Bible to ban interracial marriage. There really isn't any difference between their arguments and the arguments of anti-gay bigots today.

This whole issue isn't about religion. It is about government cash and prizes. The bigots want gays to be denied access to the same government cash and prizes awarded to their marriages by the laws of the land.

This is about equal protection of the laws. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking it's about religion.

the constitution party is always a safe option,,,

They Governing well for you?

they havent lied cheated or stolen from me ,,,cant say the for the dems or repubes,,,

 

[Billiejeens]

I just figure the constitution is what made us the greatest nation the world has ever seen,,, at least they talk about it, where as the two fascist partys ignore and abuse it

I have an almost irrational reverence for the Constitution. That's why I harp on "equal protection of the laws" when it comes to gays, and their marriages.

the goveernment has no business being involved in marriage,,,

marriage is a personal thing between two people,,,

I agree! Absolutely! I've said that many times.

Gay marriage would not even be a political issue if the people of America had not demanded government get all up in their marriages.

The people arguing against gays receiving the same government cash and prizes as they do have no one but themselves to blame for this mess.

the only people wanting the government to get involved in marriage were the gays and racist,,which is about 3% of the population,,,

No, the American people demanded government in their marriages way before gays did.

Gimme joint tax returns! Gimme tax breaks for marriage and kids! Gimme spousal Social Security protections! Gimme literally one thousand government marriage protections. Gimme, gimme, gimme.

They have no one but themselves to blame.

All gays are asking for is the EXACT SAME GOVERNMENT CASH AND PRIZES.

Equal protection of the laws. Laws the hetero community enacted long ago.

Nope -
They were offered civil unions that provided all the legal benefits - just not "marriage"
The activists said no -
Because they wanted all the nonsense that we have today.
Some of us predicted the nonsense.

 

[Billiejeens]

I heard a little of the lgbt town hall that CNN aired last night. They pointed out a women there they said has a 9 year old transgender girl and that wasn't right to me. That is way to young for a person to even know anything about that. I don't know if their is some kind of special situation but that to me should be in the realm of child abuse.

Im a registered democrat because you can't vote in the primary's as a independent where I live. I belive largely people should be able to live their lives the way they want. I was for gay's have civil unions and not marriage, marriage is biblical. Even the rainbow is biblical and how did the lgbt community take it?

The democrats running for president are going way too far to the left especially with the hole lgbt movment and some other things. To me republicans have their problems to. The republican party is like Gordon Gekko in the movie Wall Street. What do you do?

I feel your pain.

I'm a conservative who leans libertarian. I was a Republican all my life. But Trump has made it impossible to be both at the same time, so I resigned as a Republican.

I have no party to go to. That is actually quite freeing. No longer am I a partisan straight party ticket voter.

I have stopped voting at the federal level. If you vote for the lesser of two EVILS, you are still voting for EVIL.

You can always write in a name l like I do from time to time.

When one of my daughters was in first grade, she asked for friend to have a sleepover. We said fine, it was cute.

The little girl was dropped off by her grandfather. She didn't live with her parents for unknown reasons.

She was filthy. He clothes were filthy and her body was streaked with dirt. So my wife an I made the very risky decision to give her a bath and wash her clothes. I asked my wife to do the bath since it was a little girl.

Well, it turns out "she" was a transgender. She had picked out her own girl name, too.

At that young an age, girls and boys have the same little kid bodies. You let a little boy's hair grow out, and they can easily pass as a girl.

For whatever reason, this kid wanted to be a girl. It could have been a phase. There certainly seemed to be something going on with the home life. Maybe she passed through it, maybe she didn't.

We didn't tell our kids about the situation. We let the kid be a girl with our kids being none the wiser.

As for gay marriage, I'm fine with it being called marriage. Religion does not own the word, and so-called religious people used to use their Bible to ban interracial marriage. There really isn't any difference between their arguments and the arguments of anti-gay bigots today.

This whole issue isn't about religion. It is about government cash and prizes. The bigots want gays to be denied access to the same government cash and prizes awarded to their marriages by the laws of the land.

This is about equal protection of the laws. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking it's about religion.

the constitution party is always a safe option,,,

They Governing well for you?

they havent lied cheated or stolen from me ,,,cant say the for the dems or repubes,,,

That made me laugh

 

[Billiejeens]

What being a Christian has to do with politics is beyond me?

It builds your core beliefs.

 

[DOTR]

That’s right genius. The Republicans don’t trust Democrats to choose their candidate.
You are some kind of bright.

The RNC corrupts the nomination process the same way the DNC does. And the Republican party is no less authoritarian and anti-liberty than the Democrat party.

The RNC rules, like the DNC rules, are always changed in order to keep Independents off the debate stage, even after they've already won the right to participate.

As always, in the name of party 'unity'.

If anyone is under the illusion that the Republican Party is any less corrupt than the Democrat party, they're in dire need of reeducation.

Every year the number of Independents grows because people are sick of this fake two-party system. It was 50% during the 2016 cycle. Both sides of the party of one in D.C. know the percentage of Independent voters grows every cycle and both sides of the party of one in D.C. go out of their way to make sure they do something about it every election cycle.

(1) enjoy your independent status
(2) don’t cry that you can’t participate in party politics at the same time.
Why is this not obvious?