Speaking of death... Do you believe in an afterlife?Phaedrus said:"the more you live the more you die". And most of all I want them to be alright with that.
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Speaking of death... Do you believe in an afterlife?Phaedrus said:"the more you live the more you die". And most of all I want them to be alright with that.
But doesn't that really remove hope?Phaedrus said:Nope, but that's ok, we have life. I count myself lucky for that.
Now, back to the faith part. You say you have faith in people. Do you believe that people will never let you or others down?Phaedrus said:Not at all, in fact I think that's a non sequitur.
Phaedrus said:Nope, but that's ok, we have life. I count myself lucky for that.
When you get back from class, please check in! I'm really interested in your POV.Phaedrus said:Of course they will, I believe in the potential for them not to.
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mom4 said:So... you believe in the potential for people to choose to do good. Yet, you admit that they often choose NOT to do good. So, what factor in "people" causes your faith to stem from them? If they are known to choose to "not do good"?
Dr Grump said:Because most people do do good. Just because some don't doesn't mean you should lose faith in all humanity...
dmp said:People aren't inherently good. Ever read Lord of the Flies?
Human nature is such that w/o discipline - if left alone - people will NOT do the right thing.
dmp said:People aren't inherently good. Ever read Lord of the Flies? .
Dr Grump said:Some are. I know lotsa folks who are. Lord of the Flies was as fiction book...a good one, and one with a good moral, but a work of fiction nonetheless. Time to head off...have a good one DMP...Jillian, Mom...
mom4 said:When you get back from class, please check in! I'm really interested in your POV.
So... you believe in the potential for people to choose to do good. Yet, you admit that they often choose NOT to do good. So, what factor in "people" causes your faith to stem from them? If they are known to choose to "not do good"?
jillian said:That's certainly Hobbesian philosophy. I don't buy it. I don't think we need a divine and punishing being to control our actions. Though I do believe it is important to do good.
I've known church-going folk who were both moral and immoral, IMO. Not having religion doesn't make one immoral.
Bullypulpit said:In this, you are correct. When our morals are rooted in their consequences to this human life, in this world, we arrive at a more human and humane ethical system than many rooted in deontological ethics.
Human life? Do you mean the state of being alive? Or the series of events that make up the human life?Bullypulpit said:When human life is the yardstick by which we measure the morality of the actions of others...their ability to choose to do good...there is no need to rely upon some supposedly divine writ.