When Do We Stop Being Cowards?

Granny

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I've been in a particularly political piss-off with politicians for the last few months - with the Republican Party no less! I keep working on this letter off and on between fatigue, tears, temper tantrums and fear of ending up in federal prison because I said the wrong thing.

The proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back" came from a questionnaire from the NRSC that just set me off. To make a long story short, during the course of trying to spill my venom in this letter I started doing some research about various things and came across this thing I never knew existed prior to my attempt to write a damned letter to a politician.

In the Congressional Record - Appendix, pp. A34-A35; January 10,1963, there is a list of 45 Communist Goals to overthrow the American government introduced by Congressman Albert Herlong, Jr. of Florida (1949-19169). A constituent brought these points up from a book titled The Naked Communist by Cleon Skoussen, a retired FBI agent.

Many of those who call themselves Progressives seem to be pushing these agenda in one way or another and I wonder why we don't just "call a spade a spade" and use the word "Communist." Elsewhere in my research I believe I read it was Marx who said that "Progressive" was a more palatable word for Americans than was "Communist."

Here is the list and I wish I could break it down so it could be easily discussed. It seems to me that in a short 50-year time span almost everything on the list has come to pass or is very close to it:

1. US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength."

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khruschev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under the supervision of the UN.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN.

11. Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the word can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the US.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic America institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to forment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture": Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as a institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not [sic] prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
 
I've been in a particularly political piss-off with politicians for the last few months - with the Republican Party no less! I keep working on this letter off and on between fatigue, tears, temper tantrums and fear of ending up in federal prison because I said the wrong thing.

The proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back" came from a questionnaire from the NRSC that just set me off. To make a long story short, during the course of trying to spill my venom in this letter I started doing some research about various things and came across this thing I never knew existed prior to my attempt to write a damned letter to a politician.

In the Congressional Record - Appendix, pp. A34-A35; January 10,1963, there is a list of 45 Communist Goals to overthrow the American government introduced by Congressman Albert Herlong, Jr. of Florida (1949-19169). A constituent brought these points up from a book titled The Naked Communist by Cleon Skoussen, a retired FBI agent.

Many of those who call themselves Progressives seem to be pushing these agenda in one way or another and I wonder why we don't just "call a spade a spade" and use the word "Communist." Elsewhere in my research I believe I read it was Marx who said that "Progressive" was a more palatable word for Americans than was "Communist."

Here is the list and I wish I could break it down so it could be easily discussed. It seems to me that in a short 50-year time span almost everything on the list has come to pass or is very close to it:

1. US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength."

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khruschev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under the supervision of the UN.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN.

11. Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the word can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the US.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic America institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to forment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture": Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as a institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not [sic] prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

You are of course aware that the party of progressives is the Democratic party right? Sure there are some RINO's that support it too but the party is democratic.
 
I do realize that the Progressives attached themselves to the Democratic Party because it was more in line with what they could do than if they aligned themselves with the Republican Party. I also realize there are "variants" within each party as to how "hard core" one politician can be than another.

I'm a Republican but I will vote for another candidate if I think it's the right thing to do for the country. Being a Republican does not mean I can't be pissed as hell with the Republic Party or the Democratic Party.
 
I've been in a particularly political piss-off with politicians for the last few months - with the Republican Party no less! I keep working on this letter off and on between fatigue, tears, temper tantrums and fear of ending up in federal prison because I said the wrong thing.

The proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back" came from a questionnaire from the NRSC that just set me off. To make a long story short, during the course of trying to spill my venom in this letter I started doing some research about various things and came across this thing I never knew existed prior to my attempt to write a damned letter to a politician.

In the Congressional Record - Appendix, pp. A34-A35; January 10,1963, there is a list of 45 Communist Goals to overthrow the American government introduced by Congressman Albert Herlong, Jr. of Florida (1949-19169). A constituent brought these points up from a book titled The Naked Communist by Cleon Skoussen, a retired FBI agent.

Many of those who call themselves Progressives seem to be pushing these agenda in one way or another and I wonder why we don't just "call a spade a spade" and use the word "Communist." Elsewhere in my research I believe I read it was Marx who said that "Progressive" was a more palatable word for Americans than was "Communist."

Here is the list and I wish I could break it down so it could be easily discussed. It seems to me that in a short 50-year time span almost everything on the list has come to pass or is very close to it:

1. US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength."

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khruschev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under the supervision of the UN.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN.

11. Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the word can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the US.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic America institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to forment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture": Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as a institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not [sic] prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

You are of course aware that the party of progressives is the Democratic party right? Sure there are some RINO's that support it too but the party is democratic.

Progressivism, ie , fascism, is supported by members of both parties.

The movement began in during the Lincoln administration. He originated the idea of central government control, paper money and the income tax.

.
 
Seems a paranoid Bircher came up with this list rather than a communist, it's been making the rounds of the conservative blogs for ages, and is more a McCarthyist red scare sort of thing against progressivism rather than any accurate depiction of actual communist dogma.
 
I would think if it's in the Congressional Record with reference to the source it would be pretty reliable. In any event, I don't get into blogs or other message boards. I don't have that much free time on my hands.
 
I've been in a particularly political piss-off with politicians for the last few months - with the Republican Party no less! I keep working on this letter off and on between fatigue, tears, temper tantrums and fear of ending up in federal prison because I said the wrong thing.

The proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back" came from a questionnaire from the NRSC that just set me off. To make a long story short, during the course of trying to spill my venom in this letter I started doing some research about various things and came across this thing I never knew existed prior to my attempt to write a damned letter to a politician.

In the Congressional Record - Appendix, pp. A34-A35; January 10,1963, there is a list of 45 Communist Goals to overthrow the American government introduced by Congressman Albert Herlong, Jr. of Florida (1949-19169). A constituent brought these points up from a book titled The Naked Communist by Cleon Skoussen, a retired FBI agent.

Many of those who call themselves Progressives seem to be pushing these agenda in one way or another and I wonder why we don't just "call a spade a spade" and use the word "Communist." Elsewhere in my research I believe I read it was Marx who said that "Progressive" was a more palatable word for Americans than was "Communist."

Here is the list and I wish I could break it down so it could be easily discussed. It seems to me that in a short 50-year time span almost everything on the list has come to pass or is very close to it:

1. US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength."

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khruschev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under the supervision of the UN.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN.

11. Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the word can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the US.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic America institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to forment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture": Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as a institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not [sic] prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
The sky is falling!
The sky is falling!!!
 
Granny:

I just read your list of goals concerning the communists plans to overthrow the United States government and in consideration of these goals offer the following:

1. Communism is no longer a threat to the United States.

2. I find nothing on the list which indicates that we are cowards.

3. I think the entire list is a historical curiosity and nothing to be excited about.

4. We have things far more serious and dangerous to worry about than this list of items.

Personally, I do not think Americans are cowards. The problem is that we are hopelessly brainwashed and victims of our past. America is not the nation it is supposed to be and the vast majority of all Americans think (brained washed) what it is supposed to be is passe, unworkable, simplistic, and worst of all, subversive and un-American. How truly sad that Americans, whose birthright was the greatest and best form of government devised by man, proved themselves to be just as ignorant and stupid as everyone else in the world. Benjamin Franklin challenged us to "keep it". To our shame and discredit, we have not.
 

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