What would you have done with Afghanistan?

They did. The Jews were no longer welcome in what became KSA, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Jordan. So they went back to their ancient homeland and made a country. The Brits lied to the Arabs. Their plan was colonialism all along. Come on man. Read up on TE Lawrence. You are right about many coming from Europe. Kind of like we have at our border now…

No, Jews were NEVER kicked out of any Arab nation.
And in fact, laws were passed making it illegal for them to leave and go to Palestine/Israel.
They had to sneak out at night.
And Jews were always treated well in Arab nations until the Zionist massacres of Palestinians started around 1946,

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PRE-STATE ALIYAH

While Herzl and others were laying the groundwork outside of Palestine for a state, many Jews were moving there from Europe in waves called aliyot. The first wave, known as the “First Aliyah,” took place prior to political Zionism, in the late 1800s. Most of these new immigrants came from Russia and Yemen, and set up towns including Petah Tikvah, Rishon LeZion and Zikhron Ya’akov. The Second Aliyah , prior to World War I, was almost exclusively made up of Russian Jews, following pogroms and anti-Semitism in their country. Inspired by Socialism and Jewish nationalism, this group started the first kibbutz and revived the Hebrew language.

After World War I and until 1923, the Third Aliyah came to Israel. This group was also from Russia, but they arrived after the establishment of the British Mandate over Palestine and the Balfour Declaration and set about creating a sustainable Jewish agricultural economy by strengthening and building the kibbutz movement and its ancillary institutions. The Fourth Aliyah, which took place over a short period of time from 1924 to 1929, was mostly made up of Jews seeking to escape anti-Semitism in Poland and Hungary. Many of these immigrants were made up of middle-class families who established small businesses and created a more rounded economy.

The Fifth Aliyah coincided with the rise of Nazism in Germany and extreme nationalism across Eastern Europe and included the largest number of immigrants to date- nearly one quarter of a million Jews entered Mandate Palestine between 1929 and the beginning of World War II. This group of immigrants included professionals, doctors, lawyers and artists. They created a thriving art and architecture scene, and with the establishment of the Port of Haifa, a thriving economy. Most arrived prior to 1936, when the British began imposing harsh restrictions on Jewish immigration as a result of increasing anger and violence in the Palestinian Arab community. In 1939, the British issued the White Paper of 1939, which severely restricted Jewish immigration, leaving many European Jews during the Holocaust with nowhere to go. Illegal immigration, though dangerous, became a necessity. By the time the United Nations agreed to split Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, a very well ordered and lively Jewish society had been created there.

ARAB-JEWISH REFUGEES

When war broke out between Israel and the Arab states in 1948, many of the Jews living in Arab countries fled to Israel under threat of persecution and a desire to fulfill the Zionist dream. As anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism increased in the Arab world, Jewish emigration continued until the early 1970s. Many were forced to abandon their properties and belongings before leaving. Today, there are only a few very small Jewish communities remaining in the Middle East outside of Israel.
...}

I have read up on T. E. Lawrence, and he was against the way the British were treating the Palestinians after WWI was over.
He likely would have done more if he had not died in that motorcycle crash, only 2 months after leaving the army for the final time, in 1935
 
Man you are clearly living a fanbtasy.
Turn off the X-files!


If you do not know the CIA started al Qaeda, then you know nothing of the Mideast.
Bin Laden was just a teenager when the CIA started al Qaeda in Afghanistan, in 1979.
Bin Laden did not take over al Qaeda until after the Soviet and US had both left Afghanistan.
 
Well we did that while nation building there for 20 years. It did not work so there was no chance it would have been any better back then. Afganistan is and always has been a lost cause.

No we never did any nation building in Afghanistan.
All we ever did was supply weapons and stir up trouble against the Soviets.
If you mean the time after we defeated the legitimate Taliban government in 2003, that was not nation building.
That imperialism and colonialism, that the Afghans hated.
 
No, Jews were NEVER kicked out of any Arab nation.
And in fact, laws were passed making it illegal for them to leave and go to Palestine/Israel.
They had to sneak out at night.
And Jews were always treated well in Arab nations until the Zionist massacres of Palestinians started around 1946,

{...

PRE-STATE ALIYAH

While Herzl and others were laying the groundwork outside of Palestine for a state, many Jews were moving there from Europe in waves called aliyot. The first wave, known as the “First Aliyah,” took place prior to political Zionism, in the late 1800s. Most of these new immigrants came from Russia and Yemen, and set up towns including Petah Tikvah, Rishon LeZion and Zikhron Ya’akov. The Second Aliyah , prior to World War I, was almost exclusively made up of Russian Jews, following pogroms and anti-Semitism in their country. Inspired by Socialism and Jewish nationalism, this group started the first kibbutz and revived the Hebrew language.

After World War I and until 1923, the Third Aliyah came to Israel. This group was also from Russia, but they arrived after the establishment of the British Mandate over Palestine and the Balfour Declaration and set about creating a sustainable Jewish agricultural economy by strengthening and building the kibbutz movement and its ancillary institutions. The Fourth Aliyah, which took place over a short period of time from 1924 to 1929, was mostly made up of Jews seeking to escape anti-Semitism in Poland and Hungary. Many of these immigrants were made up of middle-class families who established small businesses and created a more rounded economy.

The Fifth Aliyah coincided with the rise of Nazism in Germany and extreme nationalism across Eastern Europe and included the largest number of immigrants to date- nearly one quarter of a million Jews entered Mandate Palestine between 1929 and the beginning of World War II. This group of immigrants included professionals, doctors, lawyers and artists. They created a thriving art and architecture scene, and with the establishment of the Port of Haifa, a thriving economy. Most arrived prior to 1936, when the British began imposing harsh restrictions on Jewish immigration as a result of increasing anger and violence in the Palestinian Arab community. In 1939, the British issued the White Paper of 1939, which severely restricted Jewish immigration, leaving many European Jews during the Holocaust with nowhere to go. Illegal immigration, though dangerous, became a necessity. By the time the United Nations agreed to split Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, a very well ordered and lively Jewish society had been created there.

ARAB-JEWISH REFUGEES

When war broke out between Israel and the Arab states in 1948, many of the Jews living in Arab countries fled to Israel under threat of persecution and a desire to fulfill the Zionist dream. As anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism increased in the Arab world, Jewish emigration continued until the early 1970s. Many were forced to abandon their properties and belongings before leaving. Today, there are only a few very small Jewish communities remaining in the Middle East outside of Israel.
...}

I have read up on T. E. Lawrence, and he was against the way the British were treating the Palestinians after WWI was over.
He likely would have done more if he had not died in that motorcycle crash, only 2 months after leaving the army for the final time, in 1935
I asked you to keep your posts brief and you rudely ignore me. In the 70s in the US we had anti discrimination laws but many Jews still didn’t feel welcome so they formed their own neighborhoods. The Jews in what is now shit hole Islamic Middle East, didn’t feel welcome. They felt the pressure to leave.

See how my post was brief yet relevant. Try it.
 
I asked you to keep your posts brief and you rudely ignore me. In the 70s in the US we had anti discrimination laws but many Jews still didn’t feel welcome so they formed their own neighborhoods. The Jews in what is now shit hole Islamic Middle East, didn’t feel welcome. They felt the pressure to leave.

See how my post was brief yet relevant. Try it.

MY post was brief. Only 7 sentences.
The quote as only there is you were interested and wanted to read it.
Totally optional.

You forget I am Jewish.
You can't blame other for Jews being elitist, feeling superior, isolating from others, etc.
My Jewish relatives are incredibly elitist and hate even being around non-Jews.
 
MY post was brief. Only 7 sentences.
The quote as only there is you were interested and wanted to read it.
Totally optional.

You forget I am Jewish.
You can't blame other for Jews being elitist, feeling superior, isolating from others, etc.
My Jewish relatives are incredibly elitist and hate even being around non-Jews.
We are our own worst enemies and many stereotypes about us are true. I too suffer from similar relatives and friends.
 
If you do not know the CIA started al Qaeda, then you know nothing of the Mideast.
Bin Laden was just a teenager when the CIA started al Qaeda in Afghanistan, in 1979.
Bin Laden did not take over al Qaeda until after the Soviet and US had both left Afghanistan.
I may not be an expert on the middle - east
but
What I know isn't imagined.
 

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