What will Obama Do About Iraq Now?

Sadly, our Government has considered ISIS a 'Friend' in Syria. Now it looks like we'll have to fight against them and the weapons we supplied. More of your Tax Dollars at work. What a tragedy.


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Gosh that makes a ton of assumptions. But its never stopped your flaming anti Americanism.

Our Government has been funding & arming Sunni terror-linked Rebel groups in Syria. That is the reality. And these groups are wreaking havoc all across Syria and Iraq. They're not good people.

Obama blew it. He shouldn't have gotten us involved in the Syrian War. Now our Country is in an awful Catch 22 situation. We'll likely have to support Shia Iran and the Iranian-backed Iraq Government. It's a no-win scenario for Americans. Hopefully Obama will decide to do the right thing and stay out of this awful mess. But i'm not optimistic.

Obama you say?

'Thank God for the Saudis': ISIS, Iraq, and the Lessons of Blowback - Steve Clemons - The Atlantic

“Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar,” John McCain told CNN’s Candy Crowley in January 2014. “Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar, and for our Qatari friends,”

McCain was praising Prince Bandar bin Sultan, then the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services and a former ambassador to the United States, for supporting forces fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria. McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham had previously met with Bandar to encourage the Saudis to arm Syrian rebel forces.

The worry at the time, punctuated by a February meeting between U.S. National Security Adviser Susan Rice and the intelligence chiefs of Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, and others in the region, was that ISIS and al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra had emerged as the preeminent rebel forces in Syria. The governments who took part reportedly committed to cut off ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra, and support the FSA instead.

John McCain’s desire to help rebel forces toss off a brutal dictator and fight for a more just and inclusive Syria is admirable. But as has been proven repeatedly in the Middle East, ousting strongmen doesn’t necessarily produce more favorable successor governments. Embracing figures like Bandar, who may have tried to achieve his objectives in Syria by building a monster, isn't worth it.

Seriously? The Atlantic? A far left wing blog site?
 
Our Government has been funding & arming Sunni terror-linked Rebel groups in Syria. That is the reality. And these groups are wreaking havoc all across Syria and Iraq. They're not good people.

Obama blew it. He shouldn't have gotten us involved in the Syrian War. Now our Country is in an awful Catch 22 situation. We'll likely have to support Shia Iran and the Iranian-backed Iraq Government. It's a no-win scenario for Americans. Hopefully Obama will decide to do the right thing and stay out of this awful mess. But i'm not optimistic.

Obama you say?

'Thank God for the Saudis': ISIS, Iraq, and the Lessons of Blowback - Steve Clemons - The Atlantic

“Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar,” John McCain told CNN’s Candy Crowley in January 2014. “Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar, and for our Qatari friends,”

McCain was praising Prince Bandar bin Sultan, then the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services and a former ambassador to the United States, for supporting forces fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria. McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham had previously met with Bandar to encourage the Saudis to arm Syrian rebel forces.

The worry at the time, punctuated by a February meeting between U.S. National Security Adviser Susan Rice and the intelligence chiefs of Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, and others in the region, was that ISIS and al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra had emerged as the preeminent rebel forces in Syria. The governments who took part reportedly committed to cut off ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra, and support the FSA instead.

John McCain’s desire to help rebel forces toss off a brutal dictator and fight for a more just and inclusive Syria is admirable. But as has been proven repeatedly in the Middle East, ousting strongmen doesn’t necessarily produce more favorable successor governments. Embracing figures like Bandar, who may have tried to achieve his objectives in Syria by building a monster, isn't worth it.

Seriously? The Atlantic? A far left wing blog site?

To a rabid rightie anything to the left of that bratphart rag is left wing.

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Our Government has been funding & arming Sunni terror-linked Rebel groups in Syria. That is the reality. And these groups are wreaking havoc all across Syria and Iraq. They're not good people.

Obama blew it. He shouldn't have gotten us involved in the Syrian War. Now our Country is in an awful Catch 22 situation. We'll likely have to support Shia Iran and the Iranian-backed Iraq Government. It's a no-win scenario for Americans. Hopefully Obama will decide to do the right thing and stay out of this awful mess. But i'm not optimistic.

Obama you say?

'Thank God for the Saudis': ISIS, Iraq, and the Lessons of Blowback - Steve Clemons - The Atlantic

“Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar,” John McCain told CNN’s Candy Crowley in January 2014. “Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar, and for our Qatari friends,”

McCain was praising Prince Bandar bin Sultan, then the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services and a former ambassador to the United States, for supporting forces fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria. McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham had previously met with Bandar to encourage the Saudis to arm Syrian rebel forces.

The worry at the time, punctuated by a February meeting between U.S. National Security Adviser Susan Rice and the intelligence chiefs of Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, and others in the region, was that ISIS and al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra had emerged as the preeminent rebel forces in Syria. The governments who took part reportedly committed to cut off ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra, and support the FSA instead.

John McCain’s desire to help rebel forces toss off a brutal dictator and fight for a more just and inclusive Syria is admirable. But as has been proven repeatedly in the Middle East, ousting strongmen doesn’t necessarily produce more favorable successor governments. Embracing figures like Bandar, who may have tried to achieve his objectives in Syria by building a monster, isn't worth it.

Seriously? The Atlantic? A far left wing blog site?

Yes it is a Communist/Progressive propaganda blog, but it is accurately summing up McInsane's take. However, it's conveniently ignoring the fact Obama agrees with McInsane on this. He's the President. And he has funded & armed these terror-linked Rebel groups in Syria.
 
The only real solution is to dig up Saddam, stuff him, pretend he has never been dead. The whole thing was an American ruse created by Bush. It could be done with today's technology, or perhaps a second coming thing would be better. Maybe there are some look-a-likes around, not of Bush, but Saddam?
 
The only real solution is to dig up Saddam, stuff him, pretend he has never been dead. The whole thing was an American ruse created by Bush. It could be done with today's technology, or perhaps a second coming thing would be better. Maybe there are some look-a-likes around, not of Bush, but Saddam?

Yeah...the American government could install another ruthless dictator who can take control of the country. They have done it before. Why not again?

Proof that foreign interventions our government has committed, never work. Just stop intervening. It is that simple, but the elites get rich when we are at war...so it will continue.
 
The only real solution is to dig up Saddam, stuff him, pretend he has never been dead. The whole thing was an American ruse created by Bush. It could be done with today's technology, or perhaps a second coming thing would be better. Maybe there are some look-a-likes around, not of Bush, but Saddam?

Yeah...the American government could install another ruthless dictator who can take control of the country. They have done it before. Why not again?

Proof that foreign interventions our government has committed, never work. Just stop intervening. It is that simple, but the elites get rich when we are at war...so it will continue.

As the Europeans went through their ideas of of governments and finally in the Age of Enlightenment began to think people should be involved in government, perhaps some people just need more time? We always think our government is the best and try to coerce people into using the same type and maybe they are not ready. As I read these boards I can believe some Americans are not quite ready for democracy either.
 
It looks like we'll be intervening soon. Obama is sending Military 'Advisers' in there. Sadly, this permanent state of war continues on.
 
It looks like we'll be intervening soon. Obama is sending Military 'Advisers' in there. Sadly, this permanent state of war continues on.

How about this for a false flag event?

An ISIS suicide bomber 'somehow' gets into our massive and very expensive Baghdad embassy and detonates killing many Americans. Not a nice scenario, but one the elites would love to perpetrate to force the American public to accept another idiotic war.
 
This is a religious war that has been going on for 1,400 years between two sects of Islam. If we bomb them, they will keep fighting and the terrorist risk will remain the same. If we don't bomb, they will keep fighting and the terrorist risk will remain the same. They didn't stop when Britain tried to control the region and they won't stop when we try to control it.

Only a Republican would think Washington should and can fix this centuries long war.

These are the same fucking morons who predicted the Domino Theory if we left Vietnam's civil war. Yet we left Vietnam and Hawaii didn't fall. The only thing that happened was that we went deeper into debt.

When will Republicans stop putting their faith in the power of Washington to save the world?

When will Republicans stop bankrupting this nation by sending us into civil wars?

When will Republicans realize that there are some problems that Washington can't fix?

The world is very dangerous place. The sectarian tribes in Iraq have been fighting forever. This is their conflict, not ours. Sure, we can make them stop for a little while, but the problem will always come back . . . as the monsters seep in from Syria and Iran.

Washington can't even manage this country - and now these fucking Republicans want to put it in charge of Iraq.

Can you say "the law of unintended consequences?"

Stop stealing my money and giving it to Halliburton and Lockheed Martin.

Turn off FOX News and stop making government bigger. We can't afford to put Washington in charge of whole Arab cultures. We can't run back to Iraq every time these terrorist monkeys try to kill each other. Washington isn't competent enough to turn Iraq into Western Democracy. We don't have the fucking money to save the world.

Folks, hide your wallets because the Republicans are coming back in 2016. And they're going to bring back the war on terrorism on steroids. They're going to start wars we can't afford, and they're going to send our troops off to get slaughtered in age-old civil conflicts . . . and they're going to use the fear manufactured by their terrorist boogiemen to create an even more invasive Patriot Act.

Hide your wallet. The Republicans are coming back.
 
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This is a religious war that has been going on for 1,400 years between two sects of Islam. If we bomb them, they will keep fighting and the terrorist risk will remain the same. If we don't bomb, they will keep fighting and the terrorist risk will remain the same. They didn't stop when Britain tried to control the region and they won't stop when we try to control it.

Only a Republican would think Washington should and can fix this centuries long war.

These are the same fucking morons who predicted the Domino Theory if we left Vietnam's civil war. Yet we left Vietnam and Hawaii didn't fall. The only thing that happened was that we went deeper into debt.

When will Republicans stop putting their faith in the power of Washington to save the world?

When will Republicans stop bankrupting this nation by sending us into civil wars?

When will Republicans realize that there are some problems that Washington can't fix?

The world is very dangerous place. The sectarian tribes in Iraq have been fighting forever. This is their conflict, not ours. Sure, we can make them stop for a little while, but the problem will always come back . . . as the monsters seep in from Syria and Iran.

Washington can't even manage this country - and now these fucking Republicans want to put it in charge of Iraq.

Can you say "the law of unintended consequences?"

Stop stealing my money and giving it to Halliburton and Lockheed Martin.

Turn off FOX News and stop making government bigger. We can't afford to put Washington in charge of whole Arab cultures. We can't run back to Iraq every time these terrorist monkeys try to kill each other. Washington isn't competent enough to turn Iraq into Western Democracy. We don't have the fucking money to save the world.

Folks, hide your wallets because the Republicans are coming back in 2016. And they're going to bring back the war on terrorism on steroids. They're going to start wars we can't afford, and they're going to send our troops off to get slaughtered in age-old civil conflicts . . . and they're going to use the fear manufactured by their terrorist boogiemen to create an even more invasive Patriot Act.

Hide your wallet. The Republicans are coming back.

The Rs are only PART of the problem. The Ds are the other part.

Interventions leading to war is not partisan. It has always been bipartisan.

Every major war in the 20th century, was started by a Dem POTUS.
 
Gosh that makes a ton of assumptions. But its never stopped your flaming anti Americanism.

Our Government has been funding & arming Sunni terror-linked Rebel groups in Syria. That is the reality. And these groups are wreaking havoc all across Syria and Iraq. They're not good people.

Obama blew it. He shouldn't have gotten us involved in the Syrian War. Now our Country is in an awful Catch 22 situation. We'll likely have to support Shia Iran and the Iranian-backed Iraq Government. It's a no-win scenario for Americans. Hopefully Obama will decide to do the right thing and stay out of this awful mess. But i'm not optimistic.

Agreed.

I am not optimistic either. The war parties that run our government will do their best to get America into another unjust war.

Expect a false flag event, as has been done so many times before by our leaders, to push Americans to accept another damaging and worthless war.

Obama is sending military "advisers" to Iraq. You do the math.

How To Start a War: The American Use of War Pretext Incidents

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Our Government has been funding & arming Sunni terror-linked Rebel groups in Syria. That is the reality. And these groups are wreaking havoc all across Syria and Iraq. They're not good people.

Obama blew it. He shouldn't have gotten us involved in the Syrian War. Now our Country is in an awful Catch 22 situation. We'll likely have to support Shia Iran and the Iranian-backed Iraq Government. It's a no-win scenario for Americans. Hopefully Obama will decide to do the right thing and stay out of this awful mess. But i'm not optimistic.

Agreed.

I am not optimistic either. The war parties that run our government will do their best to get America into another unjust war.

Expect a false flag event, as has been done so many times before by our leaders, to push Americans to accept another damaging and worthless war.

Obama is sending military "advisers" to Iraq. You do the math.

How To Start a War: The American Use of War Pretext Incidents

.

Yep just saw on the news that he sent three hundred Special Forces troops back into Iraq.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-legal-protections-forces-iraq-24268673

The guys a moron and no friend to the military in this country. Its been three years and any troops we send will have a tough row to hoe and you can bet Obama could care less how many of those very special troops get killed.

He's a fucking moron and I for one can't wait to see the backside of that idiot. I sure hope the next POTUS can straighten out the mess this idiot will be leaving. He vowed to fundamentaly change America per his hero's Cloward and Piven and I think he's got his plan right on track.
 
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Our Government's constant meddling has created this awful mess over there. Only a poor misguided dupe would believe more meddling is gonna fix it.
 
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The difference between other presidents sending advisors and obama sending advisors is that obama intends that the advisors die. Then he can say he was forced to send advisors by republicans and "See, what happened. They were all killed."
 
Bob Woodward said Generals were begging Obama keep 10,000 troops there because this is what would happen. Then Obama lied again about the complete withdrawal being Malaki's idea. Obama is an ignorant lying fool.
 
The difference between other presidents sending advisors and obama sending advisors is that obama intends that the advisors die. Then he can say he was forced to send advisors by republicans and "See, what happened. They were all killed."

Who knows? Obama should have been Impeached by now. He's a lawless megalomaniac. So i can't defend him much. He's definitely making a big mistake getting us involved with this mess again. He also committed a huge blunder funding & arming terror-linked Sunni Rebel groups in Syria. This is the Blow Back on that. Our Government's meddling is the cause of this chaos. So more meddling isn't the solution.
 
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Bob Woodward said Generals were begging Obama keep 10,000 troops there because this is what would happen. Then Obama lied again about the complete withdrawal being Malaki's idea. Obama is an ignorant lying fool.

So what were the Generals asking for in 2008 when President Bush signed the agreement to remove all troops by 2012?

Or is that signing another Oblamy lie in your world?
 
Bob Woodward said Generals were begging Obama keep 10,000 troops there because this is what would happen. Then Obama lied again about the complete withdrawal being Malaki's idea. Obama is an ignorant lying fool.

So what were the Generals asking for in 2008 when President Bush signed the agreement to remove all troops by 2012?

Or is that signing another Oblamy lie in your world?

If that's true then what were Obama and Malaki negotiating in 2011 for?
http://m.nationalreview.com/article/380907/obama-stops-bragging-about-withdrawal-iraq-spencer-case
 
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