What the GOP is NOT offering the Middle class!!!!

Obviously you are very naive when it comes to EPA rules and regulations and long term contracts!
Not going to try to educate you because it goes over your point head ... but the other readers/thinkers can comprehend that utilities look at the costs of installing
EPA mandated equipment.
Look at this report http://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/Is_converting_coal_to_gas_the_right_move/$FILE/5_PU_coal%20to%20gas%20conversion.pdf

The cost of operating a coal-fired plant is rising. A multitude of EPA regulations requiring utilities to meet new emission standards under the Clean Air Act is a contributing cost factor, but it is not the sole source of rising costs. thereby increasing the domestic supply of natural gas and making the fuel economics of running a gas plant highly attractive versus running a coal plan.


The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed a rule for new power plants to limit greenhouse gases. If approved, the new regulation would effectively ban the construction of new coal-fired power plants, marking a pivotal turning point in President Obama’s war on coal and the culmination of a lie arguably bigger than “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
RealClearEnergy - EPA's New Power Plant Rule Will Doom King Coal

Nothing to do with prices. Commodities prices are to make fast cash at the expense of the the middle class and poor. Anything that is price set in commodities screws the middle class because there isn't a supply and demand quotient.
YOU know that's bull crap!
Reason why? YOU telling me that when the Middle East heats up the price of OIL doesn't go up? Idiot why does it go up?
BECAUSE the supply gets threatened!
OK... dummy!!!! Utilities see their supplies "coal"... getting threatened by the EPA! Same thing!
So they turn to natural gas as an alternative and thus the cost of following EPA means LESS coal being mined, less people working and that certainly is not good for anyone!
All because some idiots in the EPA THINK the cost is worth it! YUP they do cost analysis "supposedly" and they recognize people will be put out of work but so what?
Cost of reducing by 30% CO2 because of what? Global warming?
All the while these idiots at EPA totally ignoring the simple fact that the US landscape absorbs all the CO2 admitted by coal plants TODAY!
And this landscape sequestration is increasing because idiots like you forget something!!!
Timber companies are like farmers. The farmer doesn't harvest one crop and that's it. The farmer/timber owner replant!
THINK for once you idiots!!!

The Forest Resource

Why do logging companies sometimes take all of the trees out of an area?
A. That logging technique is called even-age management - removing all of the trees from a stand rather than picking and choosing. Some seedlings won't grow in the shade of mature trees, so removing all of the trees in the stand allows the light to reach the forest floor. And sometimes something calamitous, like a fire or windstorm, a tree disease, or an insect epidemic, requires that the damaged trees be removed so that new trees can get a start. In each case, the type of harvest method (eg. selective thinning and even-age management) used is dictated by the type of tree being harvested, the terrain, and what conditions are needed to start the next forest there.

Q. How long does it take for a logged area to look good again?
A. You can see new life begin to flourish almost immediately. Within one to two years, the area will be abundantly covered with grasses, bushes and seedlings, and there will be a noticeable increase in wildlife. Within five years, the meadowlands will begin to fill in as those seedlings become young trees. Depending upon the soil and climatic conditions of the region, you will see the first signs of the forest within 10 to 15 years.
When a select harvest is completed, the smaller trees left in the area will increase in size rapidly with the new infusion of light and moisture.

Q. Do timber companies replant when they cut?
A. Yes. Forest products companies are in the business of growing and harvesting trees, so reforestation is important to them.
In fact, three quarters of all the trees planted in America last year were planted by forest products companies and private timberland owners.
And logging companies pay a special fee to fund for replanting and reforestation when they buy the right to harvest a section of timber on state or national forests.
In the Appalachian hardwood forest, nature replants on its own using seeds and stump sprout to grow trees for the future.
Foresters often leave areas to reforest naturally from cones and seeds.

Q. How many trees are planted each year?
A. Last year, more than 2.3 billion seedlings were planted in the United States by the forestry community.
That's more than nine new trees for every man, woman and child in America.

So here we have the EPA destroying the coal industry because of CO2 and the lumber industry replanting trees equal 2.3 billion future trees EACH YEAR!!!
Of course the IDIOTS at the EPA didn't take that in consideration!!!

Dear Dumb Fuck,

It's a commodity! The price is fixed! Every commodity traded is fixed!
 
A Harvard University study concluded that 17,000 Americans a year will die because 22 Republican governors refused to expand Medicaid.
 
Nothing to do with prices. Commodities prices are to make fast cash at the expense of the the middle class and poor. Anything that is price set in commodities screws the middle class because there isn't a supply and demand quotient.
YOU know that's bull crap!
Reason why? YOU telling me that when the Middle East heats up the price of OIL doesn't go up? Idiot why does it go up?
BECAUSE the supply gets threatened!
OK... dummy!!!! Utilities see their supplies "coal"... getting threatened by the EPA! Same thing!
So they turn to natural gas as an alternative and thus the cost of following EPA means LESS coal being mined, less people working and that certainly is not good for anyone!
All because some idiots in the EPA THINK the cost is worth it! YUP they do cost analysis "supposedly" and they recognize people will be put out of work but so what?
Cost of reducing by 30% CO2 because of what? Global warming?
All the while these idiots at EPA totally ignoring the simple fact that the US landscape absorbs all the CO2 admitted by coal plants TODAY!
And this landscape sequestration is increasing because idiots like you forget something!!!
Timber companies are like farmers. The farmer doesn't harvest one crop and that's it. The farmer/timber owner replant!
THINK for once you idiots!!!

The Forest Resource

Why do logging companies sometimes take all of the trees out of an area?
A. That logging technique is called even-age management - removing all of the trees from a stand rather than picking and choosing. Some seedlings won't grow in the shade of mature trees, so removing all of the trees in the stand allows the light to reach the forest floor. And sometimes something calamitous, like a fire or windstorm, a tree disease, or an insect epidemic, requires that the damaged trees be removed so that new trees can get a start. In each case, the type of harvest method (eg. selective thinning and even-age management) used is dictated by the type of tree being harvested, the terrain, and what conditions are needed to start the next forest there.

Q. How long does it take for a logged area to look good again?
A. You can see new life begin to flourish almost immediately. Within one to two years, the area will be abundantly covered with grasses, bushes and seedlings, and there will be a noticeable increase in wildlife. Within five years, the meadowlands will begin to fill in as those seedlings become young trees. Depending upon the soil and climatic conditions of the region, you will see the first signs of the forest within 10 to 15 years.
When a select harvest is completed, the smaller trees left in the area will increase in size rapidly with the new infusion of light and moisture.

Q. Do timber companies replant when they cut?
A. Yes. Forest products companies are in the business of growing and harvesting trees, so reforestation is important to them.
In fact, three quarters of all the trees planted in America last year were planted by forest products companies and private timberland owners.
And logging companies pay a special fee to fund for replanting and reforestation when they buy the right to harvest a section of timber on state or national forests.
In the Appalachian hardwood forest, nature replants on its own using seeds and stump sprout to grow trees for the future.
Foresters often leave areas to reforest naturally from cones and seeds.

Q. How many trees are planted each year?
A. Last year, more than 2.3 billion seedlings were planted in the United States by the forestry community.
That's more than nine new trees for every man, woman and child in America.

So here we have the EPA destroying the coal industry because of CO2 and the lumber industry replanting trees equal 2.3 billion future trees EACH YEAR!!!
Of course the IDIOTS at the EPA didn't take that in consideration!!!

Dear Dumb Fuck,

It's a commodity! The price is fixed! Every commodity traded is fixed!

So you are saying that supply and demand do not affect the price of commodities. I didn't know that. I'm learning a great deal from you.
 
YOU know that's bull crap!
Reason why? YOU telling me that when the Middle East heats up the price of OIL doesn't go up? Idiot why does it go up?
BECAUSE the supply gets threatened!
OK... dummy!!!! Utilities see their supplies "coal"... getting threatened by the EPA! Same thing!
So they turn to natural gas as an alternative and thus the cost of following EPA means LESS coal being mined, less people working and that certainly is not good for anyone!
All because some idiots in the EPA THINK the cost is worth it! YUP they do cost analysis "supposedly" and they recognize people will be put out of work but so what?
Cost of reducing by 30% CO2 because of what? Global warming?
All the while these idiots at EPA totally ignoring the simple fact that the US landscape absorbs all the CO2 admitted by coal plants TODAY!
And this landscape sequestration is increasing because idiots like you forget something!!!
Timber companies are like farmers. The farmer doesn't harvest one crop and that's it. The farmer/timber owner replant!
THINK for once you idiots!!!

The Forest Resource

Why do logging companies sometimes take all of the trees out of an area?
A. That logging technique is called even-age management - removing all of the trees from a stand rather than picking and choosing. Some seedlings won't grow in the shade of mature trees, so removing all of the trees in the stand allows the light to reach the forest floor. And sometimes something calamitous, like a fire or windstorm, a tree disease, or an insect epidemic, requires that the damaged trees be removed so that new trees can get a start. In each case, the type of harvest method (eg. selective thinning and even-age management) used is dictated by the type of tree being harvested, the terrain, and what conditions are needed to start the next forest there.

Q. How long does it take for a logged area to look good again?
A. You can see new life begin to flourish almost immediately. Within one to two years, the area will be abundantly covered with grasses, bushes and seedlings, and there will be a noticeable increase in wildlife. Within five years, the meadowlands will begin to fill in as those seedlings become young trees. Depending upon the soil and climatic conditions of the region, you will see the first signs of the forest within 10 to 15 years.
When a select harvest is completed, the smaller trees left in the area will increase in size rapidly with the new infusion of light and moisture.

Q. Do timber companies replant when they cut?
A. Yes. Forest products companies are in the business of growing and harvesting trees, so reforestation is important to them.
In fact, three quarters of all the trees planted in America last year were planted by forest products companies and private timberland owners.
And logging companies pay a special fee to fund for replanting and reforestation when they buy the right to harvest a section of timber on state or national forests.
In the Appalachian hardwood forest, nature replants on its own using seeds and stump sprout to grow trees for the future.
Foresters often leave areas to reforest naturally from cones and seeds.

Q. How many trees are planted each year?
A. Last year, more than 2.3 billion seedlings were planted in the United States by the forestry community.
That's more than nine new trees for every man, woman and child in America.

So here we have the EPA destroying the coal industry because of CO2 and the lumber industry replanting trees equal 2.3 billion future trees EACH YEAR!!!
Of course the IDIOTS at the EPA didn't take that in consideration!!!

Dear Dumb Fuck,

It's a commodity! The price is fixed! Every commodity traded is fixed!

So you are saying that supply and demand do not affect the price of commodities. I didn't know that. I'm learning a great deal from you.

Supply and demand doesn't effect/affect the way commodities prices are set, trades do.
 
Dear Dumb Fuck,

It's a commodity! The price is fixed! Every commodity traded is fixed!

So you are saying that supply and demand do not affect the price of commodities. I didn't know that. I'm learning a great deal from you.

Supply and demand doesn't effect/affect the way commodities prices are set, trades do.

And trades have nothing to do with supply and demand?

Hope you don't mind, I need to get better educated.

P.S. "Affect" is a verb. "Effect" is a noun!
 
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So you are saying that supply and demand do not affect the price of commodities. I didn't know that. I'm learning a great deal from you.

Supply and demand doesn't effect/affect the way commodities prices are set, trades do.

And trades have nothing to do with supply and demand?

Hope you don't mind, I need to get better educated.

P.S. "Affect" is a verb. "Effect" is a noun!

Supply and demand only enter commodities when a profit can be made. Take coffee. Coffee is now an admitted glut status even though it's been in a glut for the last 20 years. Why? Margin calls, which mean a lowering of price (we'll see) and more money for investors.

Here's a great link that explains it. Note: The 2011 poor weather and a fungus outbreak never really materialized, and look at Starbucks. It's all about placement.

http://beta.fool.com/robertbaillieul/2013/06/17/the-great-coffee-glut/37454/

Affect refers to the experience of feeling or emotion. Doesn't playing feelings effect trading?
 
The real question is what is it the liberals think the middle class wants or needs?
 

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