what so bad about socialism

[EdwardBaiamonte]

just bad management, last millennium; .

yes, bad management slowly starved 120 million to death in last century and yet this total perfect idiot liberal wants more Caesars Attilas Hitlers Stalins and Mao's who will fulfill the true promise of these bad managers!!

Let's all sign up for some more deadly liberalism right away!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Hooverville proved it beyond any shadow of any doubt.

Hoover and FDR proved liberalism does not work!!

Hoover turned the 1929 stock market crash into an international economic disaster.

... the Hoover interventions include: expanded public works( ever heard of Hoover dam), greater government control over agriculture, the Smoot-Hawley tariff, a virtual end to immigration, government loans for construction and other businesses ... Most important was Hoover’s pressuring businesses to not cut wages even as the prices of their output fell. The result was higher real wages, which were responsible for the unemployment rate topping out at 25 percent, causing the greatest human toll of the Great Depression. [1]
Hoover, much like FDR, was skeptical about free markets. [2]


"We didn't admit it at the time, but practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started."

Rexford Guy Tugwell, Roosevelt Advisor

 

[danielpalos]

just bad management, last millennium; .

yes, bad management slowly starved 120 million to death in last century and yet this total perfect idiot liberal wants more Caesars Attilas Hitlers Stalins and Mao's who will fulfill the true promise of these bad managers!!

Let's all sign up for some more deadly liberalism right away!!

exactly, just bad management for free instead of Good management which requires Good social morals for free, regardless of Any capitalism.

 

[danielpalos]

Hooverville proved it beyond any shadow of any doubt.

Hoover and FDR proved liberalism does not work!!

Hoover turned the 1929 stock market crash into an international economic disaster.

... the Hoover interventions include: expanded public works( ever heard of Hoover dam), greater government control over agriculture, the Smoot-Hawley tariff, a virtual end to immigration, government loans for construction and other businesses ... Most important was Hoover’s pressuring businesses to not cut wages even as the prices of their output fell. The result was higher real wages, which were responsible for the unemployment rate topping out at 25 percent, causing the greatest human toll of the Great Depression. [1]
Hoover, much like FDR, was skeptical about free markets. [2]


"We didn't admit it at the time, but practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started."

Rexford Guy Tugwell, Roosevelt Advisor

Dear, 1929 proved capitalism fails on a regular basis and needs to be bailed out by socialism, like usual.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Dear, 1929 proved capitalism fails .

why capitalism and not liberalism since Hoover was a liberal???

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

exactly, just bad management

yes, bad socialist management slowly starved 120 million to death in last century and yet this total perfect idiot liberal wants more Caesars Attilas Hitlers Stalins and Mao's who will fulfill the true promise of these bad socialist managers!!

Let's all sign up for some more deadly liberalism right away!!

 

[danielpalos]

Dear, 1929 proved capitalism fails .

why capitalism and not liberalism since Hoover was a liberal???

dear, only those who lack True faith in Capitalism, shill.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Dear, 1929 proved capitalism fails .

why capitalism and not liberalism since Hoover was a liberal???

dear, only those who lack True faith in Capitalism, shill.

1929 proved liberalism does not work since country and Hoover/FDR were liberals.

"We didn't admit it at the time, but practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started."

Rexford Guy Tugwell, Roosevelt Advisor

 

[danielpalos]

Dear, 1929 proved capitalism fails .

why capitalism and not liberalism since Hoover was a liberal???

dear, only those who lack True faith in Capitalism, shill.

1929 proved liberalism does not work since country and Hoover/FDR were liberals.

"We didn't admit it at the time, but practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started."

Rexford Guy Tugwell, Roosevelt Advisor

Prescience, dear? Maybe they knew to lose their faith in True capitalism. Unlike the Right, today.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Dear, 1929 proved capitalism fails .

why capitalism and not liberalism since Hoover was a liberal???

dear, only those who lack True faith in Capitalism, shill.

1929 proved liberalism does not work since country and Hoover/FDR were liberals.

"We didn't admit it at the time, but practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started."

Rexford Guy Tugwell, Roosevelt Advisor

Prescience, dear? Maybe they knew to lose their faith in True capitalism. Unlike the Right, today.

1929 proved liberalism does not work since country and Hoover/FDR were liberals.

 

[Indeependent]

Dear, 1929 proved capitalism fails .

why capitalism and not liberalism since Hoover was a liberal???

dear, only those who lack True faith in Capitalism, shill.

1929 proved liberalism does not work since country and Hoover/FDR were liberals.

"We didn't admit it at the time, but practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started."

Rexford Guy Tugwell, Roosevelt Advisor

Prescience, dear? Maybe they knew to lose their faith in True capitalism. Unlike the Right, today.

Hoover was Conservative.
Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Hoover was Conservative.

good 100% stupid and liberal as always!!

Hoover turned the 1929 stock market crash into an international economic disaster.

... the Hoover interventions include: expanded public works( ever heard of Hoover dam), greater government control over agriculture, the Smoot-Hawley tariff, a virtual end to immigration, government loans for construction and other businesses ... Most important was Hoover’s pressuring businesses to not cut wages even as the prices of their output fell. The result was higher real wages, which were responsible for the unemployment rate topping out at 25 percent, causing the greatest human toll of the Great Depression. [1]
Hoover, much like FDR, was skeptical about free markets. [2]
We didn't admit it at the time, but practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started.

Rexford Guy Tugwell, Roosevelt Advisor

Hoover dramatically increased government spending for subsidy and relief schemes. In the space of one year alone, from 1930 to 1931, the federal government’s share of GNP increased by about one-third.

Hoover’s agricultural bureaucracy doled out hundreds of millions of dollars to wheat and cotton farmers even as the new tariffs wiped out their markets. His Reconstruction Finance Corporation ladled out billions more in business subsidies. Commenting decades later on Hoover’s administration, Rexford Guy Tugwell, one of the architects of Franklin Roosevelt’s policies of the 1930s, explained, “We didn’t admit it at the time, but practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started.”[6]

To compound the folly of high tariffs and huge subsidies, Congress then passed and Hoover signed the Revenue Act of 1932. It doubled the income tax for most Americans; the top bracket more than doubled, going from 24 percent to 63 percent. Exemptions were lowered; the earned income credit was abolished; corporate and estate taxes were raised; new gift, gasoline, and auto taxes were imposed; and postal rates were sharply hiked.

Can any serious scholar observe the Hoover administration’s massive economic intervention and, with a straight face, pronounce the inevitably deleterious effects as the fault of free markets?

The crowning folly of the Hoover administration was the Smoot-Hawley Tariff, passed in June 1930. It came on top of the Fordney-McCumber Tariff of 1922, which had already put American agriculture in a tailspin during the preceding decade. The most protectionist legislation in U.S. history, Smoot-Hawley virtually closed the borders to foreign goods and ignited a vicious international trade war. Professor Barry Poulson notes that not only were 887 tariffs sharply increased, but the act broadened the list of dutiable commodities to 3,218 items as well.[5]

Officials in the administration and in Congress believed that raising trade barriers would force Americans to buy more goods made at home, which would solve the nagging unemployment problem. They ignored an important principle of international commerce: trade is ultimately a two-way street; if foreigners cannot sell their goods here, then they cannot earn the dollars they need to buy here.

 

[Indeependent]

The US didn't need to be riddled with people dying of starvation.

 

[danielpalos]

The US didn't need to be riddled with people dying of starvation.

that is not the point; the point is about the equality of being bailed out, regardless of being capitally big enough.

 

[Indeependent]

The US didn't need to be riddled with people dying of starvation.

that is not the point; the point is about the equality of being bailed out, regardless of being capitally big enough.

I'm responding to EBrainless.
The US has Socialist Policies for sure, but not all of these mechanisms are actually examples of Socialism.
The only reason many people DON'T starve is due to the Socialist programs that Conservatives hate so much.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The only reason many people DON'T starve is due to the Socialist programs that Conservatives hate so much.

100% stupid and liberal as always.

When Clinton eliminated "welfare as we know it" by making it workfare fully half decided they were no long poor.

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?? Is any other conclusion possible??

 

[Indeependent]

The only reason many people DON'T starve is due to the Socialist programs that Conservatives hate so much.

100% stupid and liberal as always.

When Clinton eliminated "welfare as we know it" by making it workfare fully half decided they were no long poor.

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?? Is any other conclusion possible??

I have destroyed you twice already, Dr. Dementia.
All you do is reiterate the same old discredited bullshit.
You are as intellectually shallow as a sidewalk pond on a hot summer day.
Is that your book on Amazon that gets 2 out of 5 stars?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I have destroyed you twice already

please show best example or admit you lack the IQ to be here.

 

[danielpalos]

I have destroyed you twice already

please show best example or admit you lack the IQ to be here.

Dear, the Best form of Socialism in the World, even provides steak and lobster for the least wealthy.

 

[Indeependent]

I have destroyed you twice already

please show best example or admit you lack the IQ to be here.

As I have already asked you at least 5 or 6 times already in the last two weeks...
Please provide CONCRETE examples of Products/Services from China that prove your Best Price/Quality along the Poor, Middle Class and Wealthy spectrum.