What is "Unfettered Capitalism"?

[NYcarbineer]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

 

[Iceweasel]

Unfettered Capitalism is unfettered greed. I guess that's the opposite of your's, eh?you remember Reaganomics, supply side theory, Chicago School?

The country did great with "Reaganomics" which apparently still pisses liberals off since it proves they are full of shit.

But you need to define what you are babbling about when you use the term unfettered capitalism and how that differs from anarchy.

Voting for FDR as Reagan did is not Reaganomics. Reagan's growing the government and tripling the national debt is, however.

The Dims played a huge role in spending. For you to not know that is just ignorant. Reagan cut taxes and closed loopholes and GNP went up, not down. Again, quite the opposite of what liberal dogma dictates.

 

[The Rabbi]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

More stupid from the Chief Stupid of USMB.
What does prostitution have to do with capitalism, dumbshit?

 

[The Rabbi]

Unfettered Capitalism is unfettered greed. I guess that's the opposite of your's, eh?you remember Reaganomics, supply side theory, Chicago School?

The country did great with "Reaganomics" which apparently still pisses liberals off since it proves they are full of shit.

But you need to define what you are babbling about when you use the term unfettered capitalism and how that differs from anarchy.

Voting for FDR as Reagan did is not Reaganomics. Reagan's growing the government and tripling the national debt is, however.

The Dims played a huge role in spending. For you to not know that is just ignorant. Reagan cut taxes and closed loopholes and GNP went up, not down. Again, quite the opposite of what liberal dogma dictates.

They cant stand it. You can cite facts all day long and their response is "Reagan tripled the debt!" Reagan raised taxes! Reagan sold arms to Iran! Reagan fucked my mother! There is no dealing with these idiots.

 

[Iceweasel]

China and India are communist/socialist countries, doofus.

yes, they are yet we still buy inferior and dangerous goods from China and both countries suck up industrial jobs like a mop from more capitalist nations.

If capitalism was self regulating, why are the communist/socialists countries being rewarded by it?

The capitalism they do practice is how they pay the bills. America votes with its' dollars. People don't want to pay for high priced union made goods if they have an option. That's a fact. Also over regulation is killing business. People think if you're in business you are wealthy and can afford to hand over more and more money to government.

So poisonous dry wall,lead laced paint and toothpaste is preferable? Sweat shops and cheating of migrant workers out of their pay is preferable? Devaluation of currency to manipulate trade is preferable?

That is the Chinese form of capitalism--where is the self regulation? There is None--Chinese Capitalism is off the rails!!

China is a communist state, doofus.

A communist state that competes in the open market. Their performance and how the free market influence their behavior is the focus.

So far, the free market has rewarded this communist states questionable practice.

By the way, China communism is a form of State Capitalism

State capitalism is usually described as an economic system in which commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity is undertaken by the state, where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor, and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of publicly listed corporations of which the state has controlling shares.[1] Marxist literature defines state capitalism as a social system combining capitalism—the wage system of producing and appropriating surplus value—with ownership or control by a state; by this definition, a state capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single huge corporation, extracting the surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production.[2] This designation applies regardless of the political aims of the state (even if the state is nominally socialist),[3] and many people argue that the modern People's Republic of China constitutes a form of state capitalism[4][5][6][7] and/or that the Soviet Union failed in its goal to establish socialism, but rather established state capitalism.[8][9][3]

LOL. Full retard on display here. Communism is really state capitalism? Jesus Christ you're stupid.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

More stupid from the Chief Stupid of USMB.
What does prostitution have to do with capitalism, dumbshit?

It's a business. So again, why have laws against child prostitutes working in brothels? Won't that self-regulate?

What about the business of child pornography? Why does it exist illegally if bad businesses cannot get people to buy their goods and services?

What about meth labs? Meth is horrible. Why haven't meth labs disappeared?

 

[Toro]

What is "unfettered capitalism?"

A myth, mostly.

It is a euphemism for leftists who want to increase government control over the economy.

 

[Iceweasel]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

 

[RodISHI]

There has never been a monopoly in the history of capitalism that wasn't legally enforced. Unsafe working conditions have been resolved by lawsuits. The record shows that the creation of OSHA has zero affect on the reduction in workplace accidents and illnesses. Pollution issues can be resolved through the tort process.

It's easy to complain that torts can fix the system, but the real truth is that unfettered capitalism will control everything including the courts. Who can sue, if you don't have the money and the cards are stacked against you?

How can "capitalism" control the courts? Be specific here.

They pay off the judges.

Isnt that illegal? PLease post examples of judges getting paid off by "capitalism."
This is simjply fantasy you have concocted.

I have an original tape recording of a case and the altered court certified transcript. No fantasy whether you like it or not. Wells Fargo collected well over $600,000.00 US dollars value based on their fraudulent paperwork plus wiped out two viable businesses, took hold via the courts two lawsuits, dumped the one that was against a manufacturer that designed equipment to fail from the factory and blew up a large piece of equipment as that piece of equipment was filling a road contract. Try to shoot the messenger if you like but truth will always prevail. Two Republican Senators were contacted and they both ignored what was happening. You can say whatever you want again truth prevails and wins every time. You can only keep a lie hidden if you can scare people enough to believe that lie. Personally I am going to stand on truth and fact. The judges on the other hand they collect enough off their side perks from the government to just retire and again try to keep the truth hidden of what they did. I may not be able to get help but I can tell anyone that has an ear big enough to hear the truth. Our government knew what was going on as these bankers and insurance companies were raiding the coffers but banks claimed they were too big to fail. Again, the next biggy is their farming cartel and the pharmaceutical cartel is right behind them. Enough people are seeing their own grandchildren afflicted and their children dying that it all breaks down pretty quickly when that turning point hits. The big difference between people like you and I, poverty is not a new thing for me. I can stand in truth and not have to worry about doing it. Hell it is a lot easier to do these days as I am not trying to figure out how to keep a roof over my children and keep them fed while being shit on by a corrupt system where people will lie and sell themselves for little of nothing.

 

[RodISHI]

And please show me where china regulates food, water and air standards? Oh'noooo'esss they just sit back and worry about making a fucking buck.

China to execute two over poisoned baby milk scandal

 

[NYcarbineer]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

Unfettered capitalism.

 

[The Rabbi]

There has never been a monopoly in the history of capitalism that wasn't legally enforced. Unsafe working conditions have been resolved by lawsuits. The record shows that the creation of OSHA has zero affect on the reduction in workplace accidents and illnesses. Pollution issues can be resolved through the tort process.

It's easy to complain that torts can fix the system, but the real truth is that unfettered capitalism will control everything including the courts. Who can sue, if you don't have the money and the cards are stacked against you?

How can "capitalism" control the courts? Be specific here.

They pay off the judges.

Isnt that illegal? PLease post examples of judges getting paid off by "capitalism."
This is simjply fantasy you have concocted.

I have an original tape recording of a case and the altered court certified transcript. No fantasy whether you like it or not. Wells Fargo collected well over $600,000.00 US dollars value based on their fraudulent paperwork plus wiped out two viable businesses, took hold via the courts two lawsuits, dumped the one that was against a manufacturer that designed equipment to fail from the factory and blew up a large piece of equipment as that piece of equipment was filling a road contract. Try to shoot the messenger if you like but truth will always prevail. Two Republican Senators were contacted and they both ignored what was happening. You can say whatever you want again truth prevails and wins every time. You can only keep a lie hidden if you can scare people enough to believe that lie. Personally I am going to stand on truth and fact. The judges on the other hand they collect enough off their side perks from the government to just retire and again try to keep the truth hidden of what they did. I may not be able to get help but I can tell anyone that has an ear big enough to hear the truth. Our government knew what was going on as these bankers and insurance companies were raiding the coffers but banks claimed they were too big to fail. Again, the next biggy is their farming cartel and the pharmaceutical cartel is right behind them. Enough people are seeing their own grandchildren afflicted and their children dying that it all breaks down pretty quickly when that turning point hits. The big difference between people like you and I, poverty is not a new thing for me. I can stand in truth and not have to worry about doing it. Hell it is a lot easier to do these days as I am not trying to figure out how to keep a roof over my children and keep them fed while being shit on by a corrupt system where people will lie and sell themselves for little of nothing.

Kewl story, bro.
What happened to Wells as a result of all that?

 

[Iceweasel]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

Unfettered capitalism.

Which is a concept that has only existed in the dank soil of the liberal mind.

 

[The Rabbi]

And please show me where china regulates food, water and air standards? Oh'noooo'esss they just sit back and worry about making a fucking buck.

China to execute two over poisoned baby milk scandal

That will certainly eliminate bad actors from the market place.

 

[RodISHI]

Unfettered capitalism doesn't remain capitalism for long.
As soon as we allow unfettered capitalism to exist, business interests begin to fetter it, with monopolies, price fixing, tainted foods shoddy merchandise and it is no longer capitalism. Regulation is to keep capitalism alive and well; unfettered capitalism means to destroy capitalism.
Unfettered capitalism is similar to the name: monopolistic-capitalism, or uncompetitive- capitalism.

Wrong,.
There are no monopolies not enforced by the government. There are no shoddy goods or unsafe goods in the marketplace for long.
You are simply dead wrong.

I believe you are in error and if you check into it you will see that you are if you are honest about it. I consider twenty years and thirty years a long time when you consider that is a fourth or at least a third of an average lifetime. FDA has continually failed the American public by allowing certain companies free reign to put whatever they wanted on the market based on lies and deception. Chemical companies bought and paid for regulation to be 'unfettered' as they set their own bogus studies in place. You have a drugged ignorant population due to the standards being set by the companies who desire nothing more than profits.

Banks were committing fraud through their paper work and that was allowed for a long while too.

Please cite examples of the FDA giving companies "free reign." The opposite is the case. The FDA wont approve drugs that every other civilized country approves.

Okay, I will do that when i get back. I have an errand to run.

 

[boedicca]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

Unfettered capitalism.

Which is a concept that has only existed in the dank soil of the liberal mind.

NYC went poopoo and his brain fell out.

 

[The Rabbi]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

Unfettered capitalism.

Which is a concept that has only existed in the dank soil of the liberal mind.

NYC went poopoo and his brain fell out.

You're assuming he ever had one.

So his claim is that child prostitution is part of unfettered capitalism. When asked what part of unfettered capitalism accountrs for child prostitution he answers unfettered capitalism.
It's like stuck on stupid.

 

[Iceweasel]

And please show me where china regulates food, water and air standards? Oh'noooo'esss they just sit back and worry about making a fucking buck.

China to execute two over poisoned baby milk scandal

That will certainly eliminate bad actors from the market place.

And their unfettered capitalism allows for the harvesting of parts for retail.

 

[The Rabbi]

Unfettered capitalism doesn't remain capitalism for long.
As soon as we allow unfettered capitalism to exist, business interests begin to fetter it, with monopolies, price fixing, tainted foods shoddy merchandise and it is no longer capitalism. Regulation is to keep capitalism alive and well; unfettered capitalism means to destroy capitalism.
Unfettered capitalism is similar to the name: monopolistic-capitalism, or uncompetitive- capitalism.

Wrong,.
There are no monopolies not enforced by the government. There are no shoddy goods or unsafe goods in the marketplace for long.
You are simply dead wrong.

I believe you are in error and if you check into it you will see that you are if you are honest about it. I consider twenty years and thirty years a long time when you consider that is a fourth or at least a third of an average lifetime. FDA has continually failed the American public by allowing certain companies free reign to put whatever they wanted on the market based on lies and deception. Chemical companies bought and paid for regulation to be 'unfettered' as they set their own bogus studies in place. You have a drugged ignorant population due to the standards being set by the companies who desire nothing more than profits.

Banks were committing fraud through their paper work and that was allowed for a long while too.

Please cite examples of the FDA giving companies "free reign." The opposite is the case. The FDA wont approve drugs that every other civilized country approves.

Okay, I will do that when i get back. I have an errand to run.

Sure thing. Or is this where you have a transcript of an FDA meeting where they agree to allow Merck to sell cocaine on the streets?

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

Unfettered capitalism.

Which is a concept that has only existed in the dank soil of the liberal mind.

NYC went poopoo and his brain fell out.

You're assuming he ever had one.

So his claim is that child prostitution is part of unfettered capitalism. When asked what part of unfettered capitalism accountrs for child prostitution he answers unfettered capitalism.
It's like stuck on stupid.

Ever hear of the Mustang Ranch? It's a BUSINESS. It's CAPITALISM.

Do you think brothels, even if they are legal in some regard, should be able to legally employ underage girls?

That's a yes or no question, dumbass.