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not hard to believe that derek the moron would start a thread with nothing but an image
divecon,
got any new lines? Is "moron" the only word you know? "pathetic" is the word for you. You continually embarrass yourself.
No one has shown us a republican health care plan yet. Do you have something constructive to offer, or are you just going to run your ignorant, bigoted mouth? You are wasting everyone's time. Deliver the republican plan or get out of the thread.
What's wrong with status quo? I am quite happy with my private medical insurance. Fuck the government insurance proposal. There doesn't need to be a Republican healthcare plan. The one we have in place right now is working just fine for the working American citizen who wishes to participate in it. Any healthcare insurance is going to cost you, so why not take charge of your life and get your own insurance instead of relying on the inefficient government to take care of it for you. If you take charge, you are the one who decides what coverage you actually need, not some government employee nerd.Roy Blunt said they're keeping it a secret to avoid confusing people.
Roy Blunt's health care solution: Snipe and sit | Midwest Voices
Roy Blunt's health care solution: Snipe and sit
By Barb Shelly, Kansas City Star editorial page columnist
U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri chairs something called the "House GOP Health Care Solutions Group."
Today, he's in the crosshairs for declaring that the, uh, solutions group wasn't planning on putting forth any solutions. In the form of a bill, that is.
"Our bill is never going to get to the floor, so why confuse the focus?" Blunt said yesterday. "We clearly have principles; we could have language, but why start diverting attention from this really bad piece of work (the Democrats have) got to whatever we’re offering right now?"
So the "solution" is purely political. Fire away at the Democrats' plan and offer nothing of your own.
By this morning, team Blunt had put out a clarification.
“Our reform plan to lower costs, increase access, and improve quality was released weeks ago and it is well-known.," Blunt's office said in a statement, posted on The Plum Line blog.
Also from Blunt: "There’s a variety of tactics that could be employed during the debate on the House floor and the leadership won’t make a final decision next week until the Democrats announce how they will proceed.”
When it comes to health care and other matters, Blunt and other GOP House members are quick to assert that the emperor has no clothes. But they're laughably chicken about suggesting what the emperor should put on.
The Health Care Solutions Group last month did release a list of principles for health care reform.
But it contains no cost estimates and no real estimates of how many people would gain insurance through the plan.
Look, if Republican ideas for health care are any good, put them into a bill, release cost estimates, and let them be subjected to the same analysis as the Democratic proposals.
I suspect Blunt and the GOP don't want to do that, because they know, in their heart of hearts, that their wardrobe is the most threadbare of all.
It looks increasingly like the House GOP health care plan is the status quo. If that's the case, Blunt and company should say so.
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no, but its all you will ever get because it FITS younot hard to believe that derek the moron would start a thread with nothing but an image
DiveCon,
Got any new lines? Is "moron" the only word you know? "Pathetic" is the word for you. You continually embarrass yourself.
No one has shown us a Republican Health Care Plan yet. Do you have something constructive to offer, or are you just going to run your ignorant, bigoted mouth? You are wasting everyone's time. Deliver the Republican plan or get out of the thread.
I see you're once again trying to deflect. To baffle with bullshit, because you cannot dazzle with brilliance.Last time tables were turned, it went something like this:
Healthcare and Medicare reform was the topic on March 17 2005.
"Why should we put a plan out? Our plan is to stop him.(Bush) He must be stopped." -- Nancy Pelosi
And they DID stop Medicare and health care reform.
But that was okay. Right?
*Best Midnight Imitation* BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH
Don't you remember the last time the Bush Administration attempted to do anything with Medicare before that?
Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act (Pub.L. 108-173, 117 Stat. 2066, also called Medicare Modernization Act or MMA) is a law of the United States which was enacted in 2003.[1] It produced the largest overhaul of Medicare in the public health program's 38-year history.
The MMA was signed by President George W. Bush on December 8, 2003, after passing in Congress by a close margin.
One month later, the ten-year cost estimate was boosted to $534 billion, up more than $100 billion over the figure presented by the Bush administration during Congressional debate. The inaccurate figure helped secure support from fiscally conservative Republicans who had promised to vote against the bill if it cost more than $400 billion. It was reported that an administration official, Thomas A. Scully, had concealed the higher estimate and threatened to fire Medicare Chief Actuary Richard Foster if he revealed it.[2] By early 2005, the White House Budget had increased the 10-year estimate to $1.2 trillion.[3]
Former US Comptroller General David M. Walker has called this "...probably the most fiscally irresponsible piece of legislation since the 1960s... because we promise way more than we can afford to keep." [4]
So lets me see if I have this straight.
We already have the best healthcare in the world. The envy of the world actually.
Liberals have decided that they want to completely destroy this and break the bank in the process. And now this moronic op actually wants to see the republican plan to also destroy our healthcare?
I for one, hope repubs don't have a plan for this. We can improve upon the current healthcare but we can do this without bankrupting us in the process.
Liberals don't care about that obviously as ling as it gets people to vote for them.
Scum.
Fuck you and your lies. We DO NOT have the best health care in the world, not by a long shot. The best health care in the world is one that is not only good viable but affordable. It's no use being healthy if you're paying off a mountain of debt that will be there long after you're dead.
You call Liberals scum but this isn't even the Liberal option being put on the table. Shows how much you know you ignorant fuck.
sounds about the same as the dem plan in 2005The Republican Health Care Plan
To obstruct, complain, whine, and lie until nothing is done...again. The End
Oh boy, more use of cartoons instead of thinking for oneself.
Good thing you have cartoons to think for you, otherwise you might be lost.
^^^^^^^^^
And when a con can't come up with a good response to a posted cartoon it looks kind of like that.
So lets me see if I have this straight.
We already have the best healthcare in the world.
The envy of the world actually.
Liberals have decided that they want to completely destroy this and break the bank in the process.
And now this moronic op actually wants to see the republican plan to also destroy our healthcare?
I for one, hope repubs don't have a plan for this.
We can improve upon the current healthcare but we can do this without bankrupting us in the process.
Liberals don't care about that obviously as ling as it gets people to vote for them.
Scum.
There isn't anything you can't cure with a bottle of aspirin and a box of bandaids.
There isn't anything you can't cure with a bottle of aspirin and a box of bandaids.
not hard to believe that derek the moron would start a thread with nothing but an image
DiveCon,
Got any new lines? Is "moron" the only word you know? "Pathetic" is the word for you. You continually embarrass yourself.
No one has shown us a Republican Health Care Plan yet. Do you have something constructive to offer, or are you just going to run your ignorant, bigoted mouth? You are wasting everyone's time. Deliver the Republican plan or get out of the thread.
derek the moron cant do anything but post stupid pics and hope someone else will come in and fight his battle for himnot hard to believe that derek the moron would start a thread with nothing but an image
DiveCon,
Got any new lines? Is "moron" the only word you know? "Pathetic" is the word for you. You continually embarrass yourself.
No one has shown us a Republican Health Care Plan yet. Do you have something constructive to offer, or are you just going to run your ignorant, bigoted mouth? You are wasting everyone's time. Deliver the Republican plan or get out of the thread.
Actually I gave you a link to a Republican healthcare plan, and I believe it's the first reply to this thread so it should be easy to find.
The Republican Health Care Plan
To obstruct, complain, whine, and lie until nothing is done...again. The End
dems did the exact same thing in 2005The Republican Health Care Plan
To obstruct, complain, whine, and lie until nothing is done...again. The End
How about this for a New Rule: Not everything in America has to make a profit. It used to be that there were some services and institutions so vital to our nation that they were exempt from market pressures. Some things we just didn't do for money. The United States always defined capitalism, but it didn't used to define us. But now it's becoming all that we are.
Did you know, for example, that there was a time when being called a "war profiteer" was a bad thing? But now our war zones are dominated by private contractors and mercenaries who work for corporations. There are more private contractors in Iraq than American troops, and we pay them generous salaries to do jobs the troops used to do for themselves *-- like laundry. War is not supposed to turn a profit, but our wars have become boondoggles for weapons manufacturers and connected civilian contractors.
Prisons used to be a non-profit business, too. And for good reason --* who the hell wants to own a prison? By definition you're going to have trouble with the tenants. But now prisons are big business. A company called the Corrections Corporation of America is on the New York Stock Exchange, which is convenient since that's where all the real crime is happening anyway. The CCA and similar corporations actually lobby Congress for stiffer sentencing laws so they can lock more people up and make more money. That's why America has the world;s largest prison population *-- because actually rehabilitating people would have a negative impact on the bottom line.
Television news is another area that used to be roped off from the profit motive. When Walter Cronkite died last week, it was odd to see news anchor after news anchor talking about how much better the news coverage was back in Cronkite's day. I thought, "Gee, if only you were in a position to do something about it."
But maybe they aren't. Because unlike in Cronkite's day, today's news has to make a profit like all the other divisions in a media conglomerate. That's why it wasn't surprising to see the CBS Evening News broadcast live from the Staples Center for two nights this month, just in case Michael Jackson came back to life and sold Iran nuclear weapons. In Uncle Walter's time, the news division was a loss leader. Making money was the job of The Beverly Hillbillies. And now that we have reporters moving to Alaska to hang out with the Palin family, the news is The Beverly Hillbillies.
And finally, there's health care. It wasn't that long ago that when a kid broke his leg playing stickball, his parents took him to the local Catholic hospital, the nun put a thermometer in his mouth, the doctor slapped some plaster on his ankle and you were done. The bill was $1.50, plus you got to keep the thermometer.
But like everything else that's good and noble in life, some Wall Street wizard decided that hospitals could be big business, so now they're run by some bean counters in a corporate plaza in Charlotte. In the U.S. today, three giant for-profit conglomerates own close to 600 hospitals and other health care facilities. They're not hospitals anymore; they're Jiffy Lubes with bedpans. America's largest hospital chain, HCA, was founded by the family of Bill Frist, who perfectly represents the Republican attitude toward health care: it's not a right, it's a racket. The more people who get sick and need medicine, the higher their profit margins. Which is why they're always pushing the Jell-O.
Because medicine is now for-profit we have things like "recision," where insurance companies hire people to figure out ways to deny you coverage when you get sick, even though you've been paying into your plan for years.
When did the profit motive become the only reason to do anything? When did that become the new patriotism? Ask not what you could do for your country, ask what's in it for Blue Cross/Blue Shield.
If conservatives get to call universal health care "socialized medicine," I get to call private health care "soulless vampires making money off human pain." The problem with President Obama's health care plan isn't socialism, it's capitalism.
And if medicine is for profit, and war, and the news, and the penal system, my question is: what's wrong with firemen? Why don't they charge? They must be commies. Oh my God! That explains the red trucks!
