What is the Largest Civilian Massacre on USA Soil?

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The Massacre at Wounded knee involved between 150 and 300 Sioux Indians being massacred.

Wounded Knee Massacre - Wikipedia

According to commanding General Nelson A. Miles, a "scuffle occurred between one warrior who had [a] rifle in his hand and two soldiers. The rifle was discharged and a battle occurred, not only the warriors but the sick Chief Spotted Elk, and a large number of women and children who tried to escape by running and scattering over the prairie were hunted down and killed."[22]

At first all firing was at close range; half the Indian men were killed or wounded before they had a chance to get off any shots. Some of the Indians grabbed rifles from the piles of confiscated weapons and opened fire on the soldiers. With no cover, and with many of the Indians unarmed, this lasted a few minutes at most. While the Indian warriors and soldiers were shooting at close range, other soldiers used the Hotchkiss guns against the tipi camp full of women and children. It is believed that many of the soldiers were victims of friendly fire from their own Hotchkiss guns. The Indian women and children fled the camp, seeking shelter in a nearby ravine from the crossfire.[23] The officers had lost all control of their men. Some of the soldiers fanned out and finished off the wounded. Others leaped onto their horses and pursued the Indians (men, women, and children), in some cases for miles across the prairies. In less than an hour, at least 150 Lakota had been killed and 50 wounded. Historian Dee Brown, in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, mentions an estimate of 300[24] of the original 350 having been killed or wounded and that the soldiers loaded 51 survivors (4 men and 47 women and children) onto wagons and took them to the Pine Ridge Reservation.[25] Army casualties numbered 25 dead and 39 wounded.​

The above happened After the Sioux had turned in their rifles.
 
The Massacre at Wounded knee involved between 150 and 300 Sioux Indians being massacred.

Wounded Knee Massacre - Wikipedia

According to commanding General Nelson A. Miles, a "scuffle occurred between one warrior who had [a] rifle in his hand and two soldiers. The rifle was discharged and a battle occurred, not only the warriors but the sick Chief Spotted Elk, and a large number of women and children who tried to escape by running and scattering over the prairie were hunted down and killed."[22]

At first all firing was at close range; half the Indian men were killed or wounded before they had a chance to get off any shots. Some of the Indians grabbed rifles from the piles of confiscated weapons and opened fire on the soldiers. With no cover, and with many of the Indians unarmed, this lasted a few minutes at most. While the Indian warriors and soldiers were shooting at close range, other soldiers used the Hotchkiss guns against the tipi camp full of women and children. It is believed that many of the soldiers were victims of friendly fire from their own Hotchkiss guns. The Indian women and children fled the camp, seeking shelter in a nearby ravine from the crossfire.[23] The officers had lost all control of their men. Some of the soldiers fanned out and finished off the wounded. Others leaped onto their horses and pursued the Indians (men, women, and children), in some cases for miles across the prairies. In less than an hour, at least 150 Lakota had been killed and 50 wounded. Historian Dee Brown, in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, mentions an estimate of 300[24] of the original 350 having been killed or wounded and that the soldiers loaded 51 survivors (4 men and 47 women and children) onto wagons and took them to the Pine Ridge Reservation.[25] Army casualties numbered 25 dead and 39 wounded.​

The above happened After the Sioux had turned in their rifles.
No it was the 30 million civilian buffalo. ;-p
 
Lincoln's illegal war, by far the largest. Add to the casualties listed here some 600,000 to 1,000,000 blacks 'freed' and forced into 'property camps' and left to starve and die from epidemics, because Lincoln and the northerners didn't want them fleeing north and also didn't want the expense of medical care and feeding them.

Facts - The Civil War (U.S. National Park Service)


Casualties

The 642,427 total Union casualties have been divided accordingly:

· 110,100 killed in battle

· 224,580 diseases

· 275,174 wounded in action

· 30,192 prisoners of war

The 483,026 total Confederate casualties have been divided accordingly:

· 94,000 killed in battle

· 164,000 diseases

· 194,026 wounded in action

· 31,000 prisoners of war

Prisoners

Of the 211,411 Union soldiers captured 16,668 were paroled on the field and 30,218 died in prison. Of the 462,634 Confederate soldiers captured 247,769 were paroled on the field and 25,976 died in prison. The mortality rate for prisoners of war was 15.5 percent for Union soldiers and 12 percent for Confederate soldiers.


Plus 'freed' slaves deliberately not counted as 'prisoners' he killed outright some 500,000 whites and almost double that number of blacks.

Antietam was his bloodiest single day of his many bloody massacres, according to the link above,


Antietam: 22,726 casualties

Note: Antietam had the greatest number of casualties of any single-day battle.


It was Lincoln's Generals who went on to raid the Plains tribes, including the Sioux, as well.
 
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The Massacre at Wounded knee involved between 150 and 300 Sioux Indians being massacred.

Wounded Knee Massacre - Wikipedia

According to commanding General Nelson A. Miles, a "scuffle occurred between one warrior who had [a] rifle in his hand and two soldiers. The rifle was discharged and a battle occurred, not only the warriors but the sick Chief Spotted Elk, and a large number of women and children who tried to escape by running and scattering over the prairie were hunted down and killed."[22]

At first all firing was at close range; half the Indian men were killed or wounded before they had a chance to get off any shots. Some of the Indians grabbed rifles from the piles of confiscated weapons and opened fire on the soldiers. With no cover, and with many of the Indians unarmed, this lasted a few minutes at most. While the Indian warriors and soldiers were shooting at close range, other soldiers used the Hotchkiss guns against the tipi camp full of women and children. It is believed that many of the soldiers were victims of friendly fire from their own Hotchkiss guns. The Indian women and children fled the camp, seeking shelter in a nearby ravine from the crossfire.[23] The officers had lost all control of their men. Some of the soldiers fanned out and finished off the wounded. Others leaped onto their horses and pursued the Indians (men, women, and children), in some cases for miles across the prairies. In less than an hour, at least 150 Lakota had been killed and 50 wounded. Historian Dee Brown, in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, mentions an estimate of 300[24] of the original 350 having been killed or wounded and that the soldiers loaded 51 survivors (4 men and 47 women and children) onto wagons and took them to the Pine Ridge Reservation.[25] Army casualties numbered 25 dead and 39 wounded.​

The above happened After the Sioux had turned in their rifles.

Can't get up much of a Pity Party for the Sioux; they were major genocide killers themselves, so this was just poetic justice. They rampaged across the Plains wiping out tribes left and right from the 1600's on.
 
Lincoln's illegal war, by far the largest. Add to the casualties listed here some 600,000 to 1,000,000 blacks 'freed' and forced into 'property camps' and left to starve and die from epidemics, because Lincoln and the northerners didn't want them fleeing north and also didn't want the expense of medical care and feeding them.

Facts - The Civil War (U.S. National Park Service)


Casualties

The 642,427 total Union casualties have been divided accordingly:

· 110,100 killed in battle

· 224,580 diseases

· 275,174 wounded in action

· 30,192 prisoners of war

The 483,026 total Confederate casualties have been divided accordingly:

· 94,000 killed in battle

· 164,000 diseases

· 194,026 wounded in action

· 31,000 prisoners of war

Prisoners

Of the 211,411 Union soldiers captured 16,668 were paroled on the field and 30,218 died in prison. Of the 462,634 Confederate soldiers captured 247,769 were paroled on the field and 25,976 died in prison. The mortality rate for prisoners of war was 15.5 percent for Union soldiers and 12 percent for Confederate soldiers.


Plus 'freed' slaves deliberately not counted as 'prisoners' he killed outright some 500,000 whites and almost double that number of blacks.

Antietam was his bloodiest single day of his massacres, according to the link above,
That's really nauseating that you highlight the poor treatment of blacks by the Union, given the Confederates were fighting to keep them as slaves. A history expert you are not.
 
The Massacre at Wounded knee involved between 150 and 300 Sioux Indians being massacred.

Wounded Knee Massacre - Wikipedia

According to commanding General Nelson A. Miles, a "scuffle occurred between one warrior who had [a] rifle in his hand and two soldiers. The rifle was discharged and a battle occurred, not only the warriors but the sick Chief Spotted Elk, and a large number of women and children who tried to escape by running and scattering over the prairie were hunted down and killed."[22]

At first all firing was at close range; half the Indian men were killed or wounded before they had a chance to get off any shots. Some of the Indians grabbed rifles from the piles of confiscated weapons and opened fire on the soldiers. With no cover, and with many of the Indians unarmed, this lasted a few minutes at most. While the Indian warriors and soldiers were shooting at close range, other soldiers used the Hotchkiss guns against the tipi camp full of women and children. It is believed that many of the soldiers were victims of friendly fire from their own Hotchkiss guns. The Indian women and children fled the camp, seeking shelter in a nearby ravine from the crossfire.[23] The officers had lost all control of their men. Some of the soldiers fanned out and finished off the wounded. Others leaped onto their horses and pursued the Indians (men, women, and children), in some cases for miles across the prairies. In less than an hour, at least 150 Lakota had been killed and 50 wounded. Historian Dee Brown, in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, mentions an estimate of 300[24] of the original 350 having been killed or wounded and that the soldiers loaded 51 survivors (4 men and 47 women and children) onto wagons and took them to the Pine Ridge Reservation.[25] Army casualties numbered 25 dead and 39 wounded.​

The above happened After the Sioux had turned in their rifles.
I did not realize that...but I did hear that th largest mass killing prior to Ok city was the mountain meadow massacre.
 
Lincoln's illegal war, by far the largest. Add to the casualties listed here some 600,000 to 1,000,000 blacks 'freed' and forced into 'property camps' and left to starve and die from epidemics, because Lincoln and the northerners didn't want them fleeing north and also didn't want the expense of medical care and feeding them.

Facts - The Civil War (U.S. National Park Service)


Casualties

The 642,427 total Union casualties have been divided accordingly:

· 110,100 killed in battle

· 224,580 diseases

· 275,174 wounded in action

· 30,192 prisoners of war

The 483,026 total Confederate casualties have been divided accordingly:

· 94,000 killed in battle

· 164,000 diseases

· 194,026 wounded in action

· 31,000 prisoners of war

Prisoners

Of the 211,411 Union soldiers captured 16,668 were paroled on the field and 30,218 died in prison. Of the 462,634 Confederate soldiers captured 247,769 were paroled on the field and 25,976 died in prison. The mortality rate for prisoners of war was 15.5 percent for Union soldiers and 12 percent for Confederate soldiers.


Plus 'freed' slaves deliberately not counted as 'prisoners' he killed outright some 500,000 whites and almost double that number of blacks.

Antietam was his bloodiest single day of his many bloody massacres, according to the link above,


Antietam: 22,726 casualties

Note: Antietam had the greatest number of casualties of any single-day battle.


It was Lincoln's Generals who went on to raid the Plains tribes, including the Sioux, as well.
:cuckoo::cuckoo:

You are on some kind of crack.
 
The Massacre at Wounded knee involved between 150 and 300 Sioux Indians being massacred.

Wounded Knee Massacre - Wikipedia

According to commanding General Nelson A. Miles, a "scuffle occurred between one warrior who had [a] rifle in his hand and two soldiers. The rifle was discharged and a battle occurred, not only the warriors but the sick Chief Spotted Elk, and a large number of women and children who tried to escape by running and scattering over the prairie were hunted down and killed."[22]

At first all firing was at close range; half the Indian men were killed or wounded before they had a chance to get off any shots. Some of the Indians grabbed rifles from the piles of confiscated weapons and opened fire on the soldiers. With no cover, and with many of the Indians unarmed, this lasted a few minutes at most. While the Indian warriors and soldiers were shooting at close range, other soldiers used the Hotchkiss guns against the tipi camp full of women and children. It is believed that many of the soldiers were victims of friendly fire from their own Hotchkiss guns. The Indian women and children fled the camp, seeking shelter in a nearby ravine from the crossfire.[23] The officers had lost all control of their men. Some of the soldiers fanned out and finished off the wounded. Others leaped onto their horses and pursued the Indians (men, women, and children), in some cases for miles across the prairies. In less than an hour, at least 150 Lakota had been killed and 50 wounded. Historian Dee Brown, in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, mentions an estimate of 300[24] of the original 350 having been killed or wounded and that the soldiers loaded 51 survivors (4 men and 47 women and children) onto wagons and took them to the Pine Ridge Reservation.[25] Army casualties numbered 25 dead and 39 wounded.​

The above happened After the Sioux had turned in their rifles.
I did not realize that...but I did hear that th largest mass killing prior to Ok city was the mountain meadow massacre.
Those Mormons did a pretty brutal job of slaughtering.
 
I was thinking Sherman's march to the sea.

Here's a whitewashed, yet informative version:

"There is a class of people (in the South), men, women and children, who must be killed or banished before you can hope for peace and order." General William T. Sherman, to General Thomas Ewing (Order # 11)

Sherman's March to the Sea
 
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The Massacre at Wounded knee involved between 150 and 300 Sioux Indians being massacred.

Wounded Knee Massacre - Wikipedia

According to commanding General Nelson A. Miles, a "scuffle occurred between one warrior who had [a] rifle in his hand and two soldiers. The rifle was discharged and a battle occurred, not only the warriors but the sick Chief Spotted Elk, and a large number of women and children who tried to escape by running and scattering over the prairie were hunted down and killed."[22]

At first all firing was at close range; half the Indian men were killed or wounded before they had a chance to get off any shots. Some of the Indians grabbed rifles from the piles of confiscated weapons and opened fire on the soldiers. With no cover, and with many of the Indians unarmed, this lasted a few minutes at most. While the Indian warriors and soldiers were shooting at close range, other soldiers used the Hotchkiss guns against the tipi camp full of women and children. It is believed that many of the soldiers were victims of friendly fire from their own Hotchkiss guns. The Indian women and children fled the camp, seeking shelter in a nearby ravine from the crossfire.[23] The officers had lost all control of their men. Some of the soldiers fanned out and finished off the wounded. Others leaped onto their horses and pursued the Indians (men, women, and children), in some cases for miles across the prairies. In less than an hour, at least 150 Lakota had been killed and 50 wounded. Historian Dee Brown, in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, mentions an estimate of 300[24] of the original 350 having been killed or wounded and that the soldiers loaded 51 survivors (4 men and 47 women and children) onto wagons and took them to the Pine Ridge Reservation.[25] Army casualties numbered 25 dead and 39 wounded.​

The above happened After the Sioux had turned in their rifles.
Note: The OP is another USMB White-Supremacist-type and/or defender that simply cannot deal with the fact that a white male, Stephen Paddock, committed the most haneous domestic terror attack by killing a mostly all-white crowd, for no reason whatsoever. The OP is threatened by the facts because he feels that his white righteousness is under attack.

The subject may not even be able to verbalize what's going on inside, but be assured, the subject is experiencing much internal turmoil which is played out by their triggered defensive type threads and posts like the above. There are many other far rightwing USMB posters suffering from this exact same syndrome, and I'll point them out for your convenience at my leisure.

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The Massacre at Wounded knee involved between 150 and 300 Sioux Indians being massacred.

Wounded Knee Massacre - Wikipedia

According to commanding General Nelson A. Miles, a "scuffle occurred between one warrior who had [a] rifle in his hand and two soldiers. The rifle was discharged and a battle occurred, not only the warriors but the sick Chief Spotted Elk, and a large number of women and children who tried to escape by running and scattering over the prairie were hunted down and killed."[22]

At first all firing was at close range; half the Indian men were killed or wounded before they had a chance to get off any shots. Some of the Indians grabbed rifles from the piles of confiscated weapons and opened fire on the soldiers. With no cover, and with many of the Indians unarmed, this lasted a few minutes at most. While the Indian warriors and soldiers were shooting at close range, other soldiers used the Hotchkiss guns against the tipi camp full of women and children. It is believed that many of the soldiers were victims of friendly fire from their own Hotchkiss guns. The Indian women and children fled the camp, seeking shelter in a nearby ravine from the crossfire.[23] The officers had lost all control of their men. Some of the soldiers fanned out and finished off the wounded. Others leaped onto their horses and pursued the Indians (men, women, and children), in some cases for miles across the prairies. In less than an hour, at least 150 Lakota had been killed and 50 wounded. Historian Dee Brown, in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, mentions an estimate of 300[24] of the original 350 having been killed or wounded and that the soldiers loaded 51 survivors (4 men and 47 women and children) onto wagons and took them to the Pine Ridge Reservation.[25] Army casualties numbered 25 dead and 39 wounded.​

The above happened After the Sioux had turned in their rifles.
What state did this happen in?
 
There have been more deaths in the US by guns since 1968, than in all our wars, combined. Simple fact.
I'm 46 and I never knew anyone who died by a gun until the young gay guy across the hall killed himself. I guess it's tough being gay with a catholic mom. Oh the guilt. Anyways, I've been blessed knock on wood
 
There have been more deaths in the US by guns since 1968, than in all our wars, combined. Simple fact.
I'm 46 and I never knew anyone who died by a gun until the young gay guy across the hall killed himself. I guess it's tough being gay with a catholic mom. Oh the guilt. Anyways, I've been blessed knock on wood
I've been shot at. No fun at all.
 
There have been more deaths in the US by guns since 1968, than in all our wars, combined. Simple fact.
I'm 46 and I never knew anyone who died by a gun until the young gay guy across the hall killed himself. I guess it's tough being gay with a catholic mom. Oh the guilt. Anyways, I've been blessed knock on wood
I've been shot at. No fun at all.
In college I had a black guy pull up to me walking down the street and he pointed a gun at me. I froze. Scary. I've shot deer I can't imagine a human being shot.

And I walked in and discovered my neighbor dead. Sick. Similar to the vegas shooter. Eyes open still. Scary
 

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