What is happening to white people in US sports?

[Ray9]

ali vs henry cooper fight - Bing video

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Ali's glove is slit by Angelo Dundee after Cooper knocked him out.

 

[rupol2000]

Before this final round, Frazer had already been hinted that he needed to lose the fight, he did not agree. In the corner, Ali everything was the other way around, he did not agree to go out in any way, begged him to take off his gloves, he was pushed into the ring by force, because they had already decided everything for the boxers, the main thing was that Ali at least came out of the corner.

 

[katsteve2012]

According to statistics, the greatest was Marciano

Ali lied

According to EXPERT ANALYSTS of the sport, here are the rankings of who were the greatest heavyweights in history.

From THE RING: The greatest heavyweight of all time - The Ring

Author Thomas Hauser conducted a poll of 30 boxing experts to determine which big man personifies greatness in the glamour division.

www.ringtv.com

 

[katsteve2012]

Before this final round, Frazer had already been hinted that he needed to lose the fight, he did not agree. In the corner, Ali everything was the other way around, he did not agree to go out in any way, begged him to take off his gloves, he was pushed into the ring by force, because they had already decided everything for the boxers, the main thing was that Ali at least came out of the corner.

Now you are just making up unsubstantiated statements for the sake of conducting a circular argument.

 

[rupol2000]

And Fraser had no vision problems. When Ali lay in a swoon, he calmly took off his gloves and looked at it at this time, looking at those who spoke to him, and at the same time he did not look very tired and breathed evenly
When this happened, several people carried Ali's corpse out of the ring.

 

[katsteve2012]

This thread is being derailed and it is probably my fault for putting in in sports. The point of the thread is to highlight the overrepresentation of skin color in Basketball and football. There are no efforts in school systems to address Critical Race Theory and balance the number to reflect reality by blaming African humans as the source of the world's problems. Logically there be should if one examines the false premise of white supremacy in US education.

Clearly there is something going on in these sports that will destroy them in America if the exclusion of white athletes is not dealt with.

So which forum do you want your thread moved to?

 

[rupol2000]

Now you are just making up unsubstantiated statements for the sake of conducting a circular argument.

This is known from interviews and eyewitness recollections. Fraser said clear after this fight that he was ready to continue.

 

[katsteve2012]

And Fraser had no vision problems. When Ali lay in a swoon, he calmly took off his gloves and looked at it at this time, looking at those who spoke to him, and at the same time he did not look very tired and breathed evenly
When this happened, several people carried Ali's corpse out of the ring.

Alis trainer took off his gloves after the fight was stopped, and Ali walked out of the ring on his feet. No one carried him out.

Why are you fabricating these falsehoods?

This is known from interviews and eyewitness recollections. Fraser said clear after this fight that he was ready to continue.

Seriously?

Frazier was a warrior, and he did not like Ali.

He likely would have fought to the death if his trainer had not saved him from himself.

What else was he going say?

 

[rupol2000]

According to EXPERT ANALYSTS of the sport, here are the rankings of who were the greatest heavyweights in history.

From THE RING: The greatest heavyweight of all time - The Ring

Author Thomas Hauser conducted a poll of 30 boxing experts to determine which big man personifies greatness in the glamour division.

www.ringtv.com

I am not interested in "analysts", according to usual sports statistics the greatest is not Ali but Marciano

 

[katsteve2012]

Does not matter

He started the thread, and if he would like it moved, that can be requested.

 

[rupol2000]

Why are you fabricating these falsehoods?

I just watched this on a YouTube review, accompanied by footage of the fight.

 

[Ray9]

So which forum do you want your thread moved to?

It fits here now and it will evolve eventually. Right now it is a pissing contest about who the greatest boxers were. That's ok.

 

[rupol2000]

He started the thread, and if he would like it moved, that can be requested.

I'm sorry I was wrong, I thought it to me

 

[rupol2000]

Seriously?

Frazier was a warrior, and he did not like Ali.

He likely would have fought to the death if his trainer had not saved him from himself.

What else was he going say?

Fraser was fine, he didn't look blind or exhausted.

 

[katsteve2012]

I am not interested in "analysts", according to usual sports statistics the greatest is not Ali but Marciano

What is obvious is that you are not interested facts from experts, that understand the criteria of how fighters are ranked, but are more interested in creating your own version of what you "think" are facts that are not based on any truth whatsoever.

 

[katsteve2012]

Fraser was fine, he didn't look blind or exhausted.

Maybe you don't think so, but his corner saw that his vision was impaired due to his eyes closing.

 

[rupol2000]

When Joe takes off his gloves, he shakes his legs, he is vexed and full of energy. Those who are at the limit do not behave this way. He has a clear look, the blind do not behave like that.

 

[rupol2000]

What is obviousnis that you are not interested facts from experts, that understand the criteria of how fighters are ranked, but are more interested in creating your own version of what you "think" are facts that are not based on any truth whatsoever.

The rankings are simple: victories and defeats in the standings. Let them rank as they please, even according to the color of their panties, nobody cares

 

[katsteve2012]

It fits here now and it will evolve eventually. Right now it is a pissing contest about who the greatest boxers were. That's ok.

Fair enough.. if you change your mind, make a request.

 

[katsteve2012]

The rankings are simple: victories and defeats in the standings. Let them rank as they please, even according to the color of their panties, nobody cares

Wrong.

*Length of career.

*Quality of opposition.

*Number of successful title defenses.

*Ability to overcome adversity.

Are just a few of the other variables used to rank where fighters stand in history.

A fighter who fights less years against generally second rate competition and retires undefeated, is seldom ranked higher than a fighter who fights twice as long against some of the greatest fighters in history when they are in their prime years and defeats all of them.