What is fair pay/benefits for a government employee?

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    To all the far right, govt-employee haters out there....or anyone who wants to comment...thought I'd ask this: What is fair pay/benefits for a government employee (the essential ones)??? I'll throw out some examples. You tell me what fair pay / benefits would be for each:

    US soldier/marine
    US sailor
    US pilot
    US military officer (LT)

    Federal police officer
    State police officer
    County police officer
    City police officer (city over 150K people)
    City police chief
    City police Sgt

    City fireman
    City fire chief

    Local teacher
    Local principle

    Local Dept of Transport supervisor
    Local DOT bottom line worker

    City sanitation worker
    City sanitation supervisor



    Now. We've heard the far right preach about how the govt needs to be "cut down" to size like the "rest of us". Well, here is the chance. Tell us what each of the above is worth, and how much in taxes you're willing to pay to make it possible. Those are very basic, essential services above. Right wing TP'ers should have a clear idea of how much they should make, and how much we, the customers, should be willing to pay for that to happen. Should be fun...........
     
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    And I'd like some actual numbers, not just a Tea Party catch line like "No more than anyone who pays their salaries" blah blah blah blah.
     
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    Obviously something between nothing and everything. Right now, too many people consider their work priceless and demand that those who pay their salaries impoverish themselves to do it.

    In the cities that have been forced into bankruptcy the road workers get so much money in wages and benefits that there is no money left over to buy asphalt so the road workers can fill potholes. They are overpaid.

    A good friend of mine is a retired police officer. With his pension and benefits he gets $7,000 a month. God love him, he too is way overpaid.
     
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    How about this, any government employee, including the president, who makes more than any member of the military is getting paid way too much.
     
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    So...the commander of the LAPD swat team should make less than an Air Force dentist who never leaves the base in 25 years? The lead counter-terrorism agents in the FBI and CIA should make less than a cook in the Navy? WHY?????????

    But....you do realize...military members ARE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES. Thus, you're premise would mean that every military member (govt employees) must make exactly the same, so that no government employee (military) make more than anyone in the military.

    One day, TP'ers will realize their beloved military are also among the umbrella of government employees (who they love to hate).
     
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    Maybe. What rank did he retire at?

    Part of the reason cops and firemen have pensions is that they will NEVER make enough in salary (at most American PD's) to invest money like those in the private sector. Up until last year, NYPD's starting pay was 26,000 a year.

    How can you attract someone to do a dangerous job, for low pay, low respect, low morale, etc?? The pension was always part of that. Many cops cant afford a 401(k). And, unlike the military, most look at that as a career, not something they'll do 4 years in and move on.

    Now, the obvious respone is "We cant afford it!!!!". Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how we prioritize.

    But if we dont, are we willing to accept far less qualified cops in the future, and thus, far worse service and more corruption?
     
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    That works for me.
     
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    Again.....

    So the commander of the LAPD swat team should make less than a Navy cook?
    The director of the FBI/CIA counter terror units should make less than an Air Force dentist who will never leave the base?

    You TP'ers aren't very fiscally responsible, are ya?
     
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    Oh, wow, you are a complete fucktard. You think a Congressman or a Police Chief shouldn't make more than a low-IQ grunt hired to be cannon fodder. Talk about someone deep into war porn... Get help, GW.
     
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    Yes.
     

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