What is "dirt"?

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There was a lot of discussion yesterday about Donald Jr accepting a meeting with a Russian woman for the purpose of getting "dirt" on HRC.

OOOOOOOOOH, how evil could he be to accept such a meeting!

What's wrong with dirt?

Suppose the "dirt" was information about business transactions between Russian citizens (or companies) and the Clinton Foundation, or with HRC/WJC personally. And suppose the information was FACTUAL, CORROBORATED, CURRENT, and legally in the possession of the person contacting the Trump Campaign. So the meeting was merely to provide the Trump Campaign with truthful information that might prove embarrassing to HRC, and could be used by the Trump Campaign to its political advantage.

And suppose further that the information was being provided because the Russian government wanted to assist the Trump Campaign in winning the election.

NONE OF THIS WOULD BE ILLEGAL. None of it constitutes "election tampering." There is no affirmative duty of a political campaign to involve the FBI, FEC, or anyone else, simply because some foreigner - even from a country that many consider an "adversary" - offers to provide the campaign with truthful, politically useful information.

Even though some would characterize that truthful information as "dirt."

From all indications, the meeting in question did take place, and no "dirt" was offered. But regardless, Trump Jr had no obligation to report the offer of a meeting, or the fact that "dirt" was being dangled as an inducement to meet.

WHICH IS WHY TRUMP JR WAS NOT INDICTED FOR THIS ACTIVITY. The Mueller's certainly had no compunctions about indicting people on bullshit charges, and if there had been anything illegal about this, they would have done so here. So Fuck the Democrats for implying that there was anything nefarious about this whole thing, OR THAT THE HRC CAMPAIGN WOULD HAVE ACTED ANY DIFFERENTLY HAD THE SAME OPPORTUNITY ARISEN FOR THEM.
 
There was a lot of discussion yesterday about Donald Jr accepting a meeting with a Russian woman for the purpose of getting "dirt" on HRC.

OOOOOOOOOH, how evil could he be to accept such a meeting!

What's wrong with dirt?

Suppose the "dirt" was information about business transactions between Russian citizens (or companies) and the Clinton Foundation, or with HRC/WJC personally. And suppose the information was FACTUAL, CORROBORATED, CURRENT, and legally in the possession of the person contacting the Trump Campaign. So the meeting was merely to provide the Trump Campaign with truthful information that might prove embarrassing to HRC, and could be used by the Trump Campaign to its political advantage.

And suppose further that the information was being provided because the Russian government wanted to assist the Trump Campaign in winning the election.

NONE OF THIS WOULD BE ILLEGAL. None of it constitutes "election tampering." There is no affirmative duty of a political campaign to involve the FBI, FEC, or anyone else, simply because some foreigner - even from a country that many consider an "adversary" - offers to provide the campaign with truthful, politically useful information.

Even though some would characterize that truthful information as "dirt."

From all indications, the meeting in question did take place, and no "dirt" was offered. But regardless, Trump Jr had no obligation to report the offer of a meeting, or the fact that "dirt" was being dangled as an inducement to meet.

WHICH IS WHY TRUMP JR WAS NOT INDICTED FOR THIS ACTIVITY. The Mueller's certainly had no compunctions about indicting people on bullshit charges, and if there had been anything illegal about this, they would have done so here. So Fuck the Democrats for implying that there was anything nefarious about this whole thing, OR THAT THE HRC CAMPAIGN WOULD HAVE ACTED ANY DIFFERENTLY HAD THE SAME OPPORTUNITY ARISEN FOR THEM.
The HRC campaign would have been way too smart to do that. She didn't need to spread dirt on Donald. He was doing a great job on himself just by opening his mouth.

It may not have been illegal, but it was unethical as hell and a clear example of how little the Trumps care about America.
 
If all of this is true:
And suppose the information was FACTUAL, CORROBORATED, CURRENT, and legally in the possession of the person

Why would the following be true because the information came from Russian sources rather than other sources?

It may not have been illegal, but it was unethical as hell and a clear example of how little the Trumps care about America.
 
OldLady please elucidate your thinking behind the assertion that accepting such a meeting and such information would be unethical. Truthful information? Legally obtained?

If a candidate is fucked by the truth, so be it. Distortions and lies are another matter altogether, but there was none of that by the Trump campaign. The stuff that hurt HRC the most (which was very little, in fact) was the shameful treatment of the Sanders campaign by HRC and her minions, as brought out in the purloined emails.
 

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