What Is America?

[Road Runner]

Why does so much depend on the fate of one man? That alone disqualifies the MAGA movement, IMO.

It took one bad man to fuck up this country, so it'll take one great man to clean it up and fuck him up. Figuratively speaking.

 

[Billy000]

America used to be in a class of its own when it came to being compared to other countries. We used to say that it was the land of the free and the home of the brave. So what is it now? How can we even describe it?

It’s ran by greedy billionaires who pull the strings of the politicians

 

[dblack]

"The floodgates are open. The bars are down. The sally-ports are unguarded. The dam is washed away. The sewer is unchoked. Europe is vomiting! In other words, the scum of immigration is viscerating upon our shores.” - Newspaper editor, 1890


Same bullshit, different century.

Fear sells. In any century.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

 

[Lone Wanderer]

Fear sells. In any century.

Cheap labor does too.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

America used to be in a class of its own when it came to being compared to other countries. We used to say that it was the land of the free and the home of the brave. So what is it now? How can we even describe it?

All you people do is talk about the past.

Move aside The future is here, and it doesn't need your bullshit.

There must be a place left for old hags like you, that make you feel all warm and wet? Maybe a recently dug grave? Save the new generation from paying the government checks

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Cheap labor does too.

Always. Even if it has to be outsourced

 

[Lone Wanderer]

All you people do is talk about the past.

Move aside The future is here, and it doesn't need your bullshit.

There must be a place left for old hags like you, that make you feel all warm and wet? Maybe a recently dug grave? Save the new generation from paying the government checks

Well, it kind of looks like COVID was designed to thin out the old. It was engineered after all.

 

[Road Runner]

Move aside The future is here, and it doesn't need your bullshit.

Will say the 47th president of these United States of America Donald J. Trump.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Well, it kind of looks like COVID was designed to thin out the old. It was engineered after all.

I doubt it was 'designed' but nature does have an agenda

 

[Lone Wanderer]

I doubt it was 'designed' but nature does have an agenda

Very little about the virus is zoonotic, and the very first recorded carriers of the virus were at the Wuhan lab. That's far too much of a coincidence.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Very little about the virus is zoonotic, and the very first recorded carriers of the virus were at the Wuhan lab. That's far too much of a coincidence.

really?

Occam's Razor

Since the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic began three years ago, its origin has been a topic of much scientific — and political — debate. Two main theories exist: The virus spilled over from an animal into people, most likely in a market in Wuhan, China, or the virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology and spread due to some type of laboratory accident.


The Wall Street Journal added to that debate this week when they reported that the U.S. Department of Energy has shifted its stance on the origin of COVID. It now concludes, with "low confidence," that the pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak in Wuhan, China.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Very little about the virus is zoonotic, and the very first recorded carriers of the virus were at the Wuhan lab. That's far too much of a coincidence.

at the end of the day, the origin of the pandemic is also a scientific question. Virologists who study pandemic origins are much less divided than the U.S. intelligence community. They say there is "very convincing" data and "overwhelming evidence" pointing to an animal origin.


In particular, scientists published two extensive, peer-reviewed papers in Science in July 2022, offering the strongest evidence to date that the COVID-19 pandemic originated in animals at a market in Wuhan, China. Specifically, they conclude that the coronavirus most likely jumped from a caged wild animal into people at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, where a huge COVID-19 outbreak began in December 2019.


Virologist Angela Rasmussen, who contributed to one of the Science papers, says the DOE's "low confident" conclusion doesn't "negate the affirmative evidence for zoonotic [or animal] origin nor do they add any new information in support of lab origin."


"Many other [news] outlets are presenting this as new conclusive proof that the lab origin hypothesis is equally as plausible as the zoonotic origin hypothesis," Rasmussen wrote in an email to NPR, "and that is a misrepresentation of the evidence for either."


So just what is the scientific evidence that the pandemic began at the seafood market?


Neither of the Science papers provide the smoking gun — that is, an animal infected with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus at a market.

 

[Lone Wanderer]

really?

Occam's Razor

Since the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic began three years ago, its origin has been a topic of much scientific — and political — debate. Two main theories exist: The virus spilled over from an animal into people, most likely in a market in Wuhan, China, or the virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology and spread due to some type of laboratory accident.


The Wall Street Journal added to that debate this week when they reported that the U.S. Department of Energy has shifted its stance on the origin of COVID. It now concludes, with "low confidence," that the pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak in Wuhan, China.

You have to take into consideration the diplomatic implications. First, our government doesn't want to anger China too much. Second, we funded the research there, so some blame would come back to us.

In short, this is the compromise they're allowed to share with us.

 

[Road Runner]

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The Millennials and the Gen Zoomers have moved beyond John Wayne and the Greatest Generation, their grandchildren and great grandchildren.

It is now their nation to construct as they wish. The GenX and Baby Boomers have relinquished much of their previous control over what is valuable and normative.

I do think the East and West coasts will remain far more liberal than the conservative South and much of the MidWest.

A note to Boomers: the Zoomers will try to institutionalize your old asses if you get in their way, and "OK, zoomer," will not make them back down. Talk to your lawyers and put your possessions, property, etc., in a trust and name an executor/guardian you trust.

 

[MinTrut]

America used to be in a class of its own when it came to being compared to other countries. We used to say that it was the land of the free and the home of the brave. So what is it now? How can we even describe it?

A large land mass arbitrarily named containing much life.

 

[Votto]

America used to be in a class of its own when it came to being compared to other countries. We used to say that it was the land of the free and the home of the brave. So what is it now? How can we even describe it?

The land that spends billions across the globe to promote abortion, gender dysphoria, gay agendas, and wars abroad with zero moral standing.

 

[Mac1958]

Suffering from self-inflicted wounds.

 

[Road Runner]

I just got an answer to my own question. America today is being one of the good guys and being treated like a bad guy. I know from personal experience and that's just something that I have in common with Trump. Also, the true bad guys are treated like good guys.