What Increases Tensions

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    OBSERVATION:

    It is interesting to note that when Arabs report on Israel selectively targeting Arab killers TENSIONS in the area are INCREASED but when Arabs murderers kill Jewish mothers and their children TENSIONS ARE DECREASED. That is what the Arabs called 'evenhandedness.'

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040725/ts_nm/mideast_dc_106

     
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    AJ-- The spin on this story goes both ways depending on the bias of who is reporting it. IMHO the average American has NO IDEA what is really going on over there.
     
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    Are you one of those average Americans who have no idea of what is really going on over there? I on the other hand go over there (Israel) several times a year on business. I do see, know and understand what I experience when I am there.

    It doesn't resemble anything you have stated as fact. How do you equate increased tensions when murderers are targeted for elimination and decreased tensions when babies and mothers are murdered? The question has been asked of you.
     
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    There have been civilians killed on both sides. Both sides to things that I find objectionable. You are a self-admitted arab hater. I doubt you would relate an objective viewpoint as evidenced by how you selectively edit your posts.
     
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    Great non-response answer.

    Always avoid the question put to you and just dance around it by equating morality and immorality to be the same.

    You definitely have the Clinton rope-a-dope down pat.
     
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    In it's WOT, the United States has admitted to horrible mistakes and apologized. Has Israel ever admitted to one?
     
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    WOT - What other thing?

    Let me see. The United States admitted to mistakes and appologized for 1) dropping the atomic bombs on Nagaski and Hiroshima (mistake or appology?) 2) Mistake of attacking Germany and Japan after Pearl Harbor? 3) Appology for killing the indigenous indians and taking their lands? 4) Applogizing for enslaving the black slaves brought from Africa and putting Japanese citizens in war camps during WW2. 4) Mistake of attacking the innocent peoples of Afghanstan and Iraq for no reason other than conquest. 5) Appolgy for attacking an aspirin factory in some ME country with smart bomb.

    I'm sorry but what are you referring to?

    Israel applogizes everyday to the Arabs who kill their children. The Israeli's give the Arabs different ID cards just like every card and form in this country still asks the politically incorrect question space for race and gender.

    The only mistake Israel hasn't appologized for is pretending that they can get along with those who would destroy them.

    Defending your country whether American, Israeli or Germay is no reason to appoligize to those arrayed against you.

    Now back to the original question:

    How do you equate increased tensions when murderers are targeted for elimination and decreased tensions when babies and mothers are murdered? The question again has been asked of you.

    Have you no answers?

    Why don't you dance around and change the subject again?
     
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    I was referring to the War On Terror.

    Killing is terrible. While killing in self-defense may be seen as less immoral, it remains to be a horror. Israel kills in retaliation for what the Arabs claim to have done in retaliation for what it says---------------------
    Are you saying that the killing that Israel does is in some way better than the killing the Arabs do?
    War is War----if you can't stop it, you must do what you must to survive until one side achieves total victory or both sides agree to stop. Calling your killing more justified stops no killing at all. Do you want the support of world opinion?
     
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    What are you trying to say?

    There are levels of immoral behavior? You fight to perserve your life and your family but you are acting immorally when you have to destroy those who have come to destroy you.

    You have made the most ignorant statement that I have ever read in my life. I can't believe what you said. Allow me to re-post it for everyone to see in bold print.

    War is War----if you can't stop it, you must do what you must to survive until one side achieves total victory or both sides agree to stop. Calling your killing more justified stops no killing at all. Do you want the support of world opinion.

    You first make a rather incoherent statement about having to do what one has to do to survive.

    Then you make a very simple statement, "to survive, you must do that something until one side achieves total victory or both sides agree to STOP."

    I presume you mean killing on both sides until one side wins or both sides gives up. Have you ever heard of a battle in which both sides say time out, lets all go home and forget this killing war ever happened?

    Then you make a totally moronic statement that killing which is justified as self protection of life and limb actually doesn't stop more killing. I guess you forgot about all the history of wars. American won the war of independence from England, Western powers beat the Germans and their allies in WW1, the Allies totally defeated the Axis in WW2 and history is repleat with similar events and in which more immediate wars were stopped for a period of time.

    Then you place some sort of weight on wanting to have world opinion? At what price do you want to pay for world opinion to be in your favor? Maybe a the cost of remaining a free and just civilization.

    You had to be joking, RIGHT?

    Lets again go back to the original question I put to you:

    How do you equate increased tensions when murderers are targeted for elimination and decreased tensions when babies and mothers are murdered? The question again has been asked of you.

    Any answer yet?????
     
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    The biased press makes these equations--not me! Is this a new and surprising thing to you?
     

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